Let's Hear It For Engineers And Science
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Yeah, T, it's more or less under control. It's gonna be a few days, maybe weeks until the water's cool enough for a cleanup, but the radiation that was released was minimal.
Yeah, T, it's more or less under control. It's gonna be a few days, maybe weeks until the water's cool enough for a cleanup, but the radiation that was released was minimal.
Well I hope so, otherwise the west coast is going to get radiated.
The core of a nuclear reactor consists of metal rods containing pellets of uranium fuel bundled into fuel assemblies, all contained within a steel shell.
The fuel in the Japanese reactors may now not melt through the steel container, but the individual rods were probably damaged.
"I'd be amazed if one or two hadn't split," said Grimes.
A more serious meltdown, where the rods congealed into a mess which was hard to remove, would increase the cost of clean-up. That happened at Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania in 1979, where the site had to be sealed.
"It becomes much more complicated, you need much more radiological protection, you'll probably need to develop new bespoke techniques and that's where the expense piles up," said Grimston.
The three flooded Japanese reactors have been written off because of the effects of seawater, experts said.
The fate of ponds of water which contained canisters of spent radioactive fuel is uncertain, but damage to the ponds would also increase clean-up costs without adding seriously to radiation levels, said Grimston.
Engineers have vented hydrogen gas produced from overheated fuel rods, contributing to two explosions and some increase in local radiation. That venting will continue for several days as reactors cool, experts said.
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Japan's Nuclear power plants are built much better then the Nuclear power plants in the United States. I would love to see your stats on that Mr. T. Do you think that any nuclear power plant in the states would survive an 8.9 earthquake and then a Tsunami? The strongest one rated in the States I believe is rated for a 7.0. An 8.9 earthquake is 100 times stronger then a 7.0. They are doing the best they can to stop this. I think maybe you are a racist. Don't like Japanese, so post idiotic Youtube posts. And blog entries with psycho rantings. You're an asshole.
Japan's Nuclear power plants are built much better then the Nuclear power plants in the United States. I would love to see your stats on that Mr. T. Do you think that any nuclear power plant in the states would survive an 8.9 earthquake and then a Tsunami? The strongest one rated in the States I believe is rated for a 7.0. An 8.9 earthquake is 100 times stronger then a 7.0. They are doing the best they can to stop this. I think maybe you are a racist. Don't like Japanese, so post idiotic Youtube posts. And blog entries with psycho rantings. You're an asshole.
What the hell does racism have to do with it. This is not about race at all. This is about a nuclear meltdown.
While some of you want to pound your chest over what man has achieved you need to remember a little history.
"Not even God could sink the Titanic," was the boast of those who put their confidence in a ship built by men. Today we also have the deadly tendency to have excessive pride in our own resources.
And where is the Titanic today?
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Another stupid ass reply.
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The guy gets so hard for disasters and "threats" and end of the world talk. It's almost like he's a paranoid or something.
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T. The map or chart or press release or whatever the hell you may have looked at was phony.
http://www.australian-radiation-services.com.au/
DISCLAIMER: Australian Radiation Services is aware of information about radioactive contamination being spread from the Japanese nuclear reactor incident released under the ARS logo and name. We wish to be clear that this information has not originated from ARS and as such distance ourselves from any such misinformation.
Just relax.
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VT, glad to hear that. I hope all eyes are watching this.
Atleast someone doesn't go spewing venom all over the boards and has some rational thoughts. I threw that out there to see if anyone knew if there was anything to it. If you go to drudgereport.com The heading in red "Meltdown Alert".
And the link is from the BBC, IMO gives us a broader base of information on the International News.
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T, I't doesn't look like there's been a meltdown, but there might be. While not good, shouldn't cause concern for you. Most of the fallout, if any, that's going to escape is going to be local, and they're telling people in the area to take shelter as a precaution. The hydrogen tank explosions didn't release any fallout, but they did play some role in cooling, and a meltdown is a primary concern.
Thankfully, Japanese engineers (as well as ours a la 3 Mile Island) take much more precautions with nuclear plants than the Soviets did. Chernobyl was bad because there was an explosion IN the reactor, which basically flung all sorts of nasty radioactive shit into the local area, and is why no one can live there still. In Japan, it's going to be different because their reactors took that into account. If a meltdown occurs, then that means that the hot radioactive material is literally going to melt through the equipment holding it because there's no water to cool it. But if that happens, it's not going to be some grand explosion, it might look more like the containment building taking a crap. A glowing, radioactive crap.
If that's the case, then yes, there is a chance that wind will carry some radioactive isotopes all the way to California. The chance of one isotope getting blown to the US is very unlikely. The chance that enough isotopes get blown to Cali and give cancer to our west coast is EXTREMELY unlikely. I mean, at the moment, there's a better chance I have a three way with Halle Berry and Kate Beckinsale than there is of this causing harm to Americans.
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Here, read this. These guys know more about it than I do.
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Chernobyl was a highly flawed design, probably the worst that has ever existed for a nuclear power plant. The US or anyone who was not in the old Soviet bloc doesn't have that type of reactor.
The main problem in Chernobyl's aftermath was the STEAM explosion opened the reactor core (blew the lid right off of it and it's surrounding building and started a fire that carried radioactive material high into the air to be deposited all over the world and over Belarus, etc.
An explosion is not a great concern as long as there is no fire or the reactor core is not breached.
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Let's not forget that engineers in northern Europe first discovered there was an explosion at Chernobyl because they detected excessive amounts of radiation and found that there plants did not have a leak. This forced the Soviets to admit the explosion at Chernobyl. Even with an explosion and fire that bad, minimal amounts of radiation ever reached the US.
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How about we all focus on the human problem, not a position.
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Cheers. I hope everyone else donates. I would, but I have 50 dollars to my name and need to eat.
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How about we all focus on the human problem, not a position.
donate to the Redcross: http://bit.ly/7ZgYpM
donate to the Redcross: http://bit.ly/7ZgYpM
I allready donated the other day.
More info on whats going on below.
Watch the whole thing. There are a few problems folks are overlooking.
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Speaking of science, here's some Vapor bait:
"The National Center for Science Education has tracked a record-setting number of nine anti-evolution bills introduced in state legislatures since Jan. 1."
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Let's talk fallout ramifications next spring when two headed cows, 7 legged lambs and other genetic mutants appear. Study the stats showing incidents of
mental Retardation and thyroid cancer amongst youngsters this time next year. Let the talking heads spin it all they want . The proof will be in the toxic sludge pudding.
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Offhand, I wonder why it isn't considered a bad design, for the Japanese nuclear plants to have their
generators and pumps located low enough to be swamped, and stop working, which caused the
rods to overheat.
I mean, from a goofy layman's point of view, why not have them located well up high, since tsunami's aren't unhead of?
NOTE: We keep going to GOOGLE EARTH, and we watch the occurence of earthquakes. The red dots are those that have occured
in the last five minutes. It's unbelievble - and you can scan all over the world.
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Hmmm.
Obamao's surgeon general says it would be a good idea to get iodine tablets as a precaution...
on the U.S. west coast.
Yep.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Surgeon-General-Buying-Iodine-Appropriate-118031559.html
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One more for you, Vapor:
"Thirty-one Republicans on the House Energy And Commerce Committee -- the entire Republican contingent on the panel -- declined on Tuesday to vote in support of the very idea that climate change exists."
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Hmmm.
Obamao's surgeon general says it would be a good idea to get iodine tablets as a precaution...
on the U.S. west coast.
Yep.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Surgeon-General-Buying-Iodine-Appropriate-118031559.html
Hmmm.
Obamao's surgeon general says it would be a good idea to get iodine tablets as a precaution...
on the U.S. west coast.
Yep.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Surgeon-General-Buying-Iodine-Appropriate-118031559.html
I just saw the Professor of Harvard Medical School Nuclear program say there is no need to take iodine tablets. The amount of radiation that will get to the USA is way to small to worry about. Iodine tablets fill the thyroid with iodine and prevent radioactive iodine from going in. This makes the body eliminate the radioactive iodine. It does not help with other types of radiation. Another person speaking out there ass.
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