Why Did The Browns Feel Compelled To Call It Wco?
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I had said it in another thread but I will say it again in this one. The WCO is typically used in the sense that the "pass sets up the run". I contended that it should be the opposite for us (the Browns) as our obvious strength is our RB tandem of Hillis and Hardesty. Use the run to set up the pass, by then it should be 2nd or 3rd and short. Short yardage passing takes advantage of Colt's accuracy and lets our WRs use their natural skills, ie Little and his physicality and Cribbs' agility.
I do like the idea of slowly introducing the WCO into the offense but it is too late for that now so the offense is just going to have to do the best that they can.
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No NFL has ever tip toed into a new system, no team has ever kept what their system is a secret. The WCO doesn't need fast WR's, just good route runners and pass catchers which is what our WR's don't have. Your right, play to your strengths, but since Shurmers RB Jackson had 1300 yards on average the last two seasons, I think we will be playing to Hillis' strengths the rest of the season.
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there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.
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there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.
there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.
So thankful that I'm not the only fan that sees this loss of confidence. I'm telling you it'a all due to the changes coming too quickly and not using our strengths. As for Holmgren, I just think he under-estimated this (and a lot of other things) and has taken momentum and progress away to prove some absurd concept that he knows more than anyone else. Instead he should have just built on what was working and not work on what was building.
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The loss of confidence and the frustration of this team is easy to see, When 2 of your best playmakers are constantly on the sideline instead of in the huddle and the playcalling is one dimensional and weak you expect that..
Shurmur has no fire and is starting to resemble the infamous romeo crennel/mangini lump on the log syndrome already so i believe there may be 2 colliding or collaborating ego's upstairs that are at work here, either way..
We may have already been here before in a sense..
And all we can do is watch and hope changes are implemented and things get better, its really way to early to determine anything just yet, our second matchups vs the bungles, stoolers and ratbirds will tell everything we need to know..
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Isn't it about time for President Holmgren's "State of the Union" address..He made one last year to the press corps and fans.
If he utters the words its going to take time I'm going to be pretty pissed.
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there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.
there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.
couldn't agree more and Shurmur is drowning fast..
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I think Shurmur deserves a fair shake here folks. Simply because this is his first season. Like all coaches,they evolve over time. If he makes the same mistakes next year as he makes this year,then I'll start to worry. so lets see what another draft and FA crop yields before throwing him under the bus. He deserves a chance to right the ship with a full cupboard.
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You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.
I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.
"fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.
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You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.
I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.
"fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.
You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.
I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.
"fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.
I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.
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You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.
I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.
"fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.
I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.
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there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.
1. Getting Jake Delhomme.
2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.
But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.
Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuŃking life.
But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?
Consider the Ravens, They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them. And how much more valuable are you to God than the Ravens? Book of Luke, Chapter 12, Verse 24. -
last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.
1. Getting Jake Delhomme.
2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.
But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.
Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuŃking life.
But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?
Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.
1. Getting Jake Delhomme.
2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.
But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.
Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuŃking life.
But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?
He ran a WCO!!!
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last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.
Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.
1. Getting Jake Delhomme.
2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.
But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.
Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuŃking life.
But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?
Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.
1. Getting Jake Delhomme.
2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.
But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.1 (800) 438-6423
Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuŃking life.
Mangini sucked!! Let it go!
But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?
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while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?
if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?
just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?
if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?
just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.
while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?
if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?
just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.
Does the season ever end with 4 games ? ever ?
The toughest is yet to come, and we have not seen anything that separates this regime from the previous one. While it is too early to judge the coaching staff and the management - The improvements have been so marginal that it almost feels like we have regressed.
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