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Why Did The Browns Feel Compelled To Call It Wco?

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  • Isn't it about time for President Holmgren's "State of the Union" address..He made one last year to the press corps and fans.

    If he utters the words its going to take time I'm going to be pretty pissed.

  • there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    @miktoxic said:

    there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    couldn't agree more and Shurmur is drowning fast..

  • I think Shurmur deserves a fair shake here folks. Simply because this is his first season. Like all coaches,they evolve over time. If he makes the same mistakes next year as he makes this year,then I'll start to worry. so lets see what another draft and FA crop yields before throwing him under the bus. He deserves a chance to right the ship with a full cupboard.

  • You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

  • You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

    @1-more-season said:

    You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

    I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.

  • @1-more-season said:

    You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

    I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.

    @usfbrown said:

    I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.

    I agree. That's just it one play made the difference could have easily gone the other way. It wasn't a blowout.

  • there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    @miktoxic said:

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

  • @miktoxic said:

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

    @dick-mellon said:

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

    He ran a WCO!!!

  • @miktoxic said:

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

    @dick-mellon said:

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.1 (800) 438-6423

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    Mangini sucked!! Let it go!

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

  • while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?

    if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?

    just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.

  • while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?

    if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?

    just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.

    @gafreleets said:

    while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?

    if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?

    just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.

    Does the season ever end with 4 games ? ever ?

    The toughest is yet to come, and we have not seen anything that separates this regime from the previous one. While it is too early to judge the coaching staff and the management - The improvements have been so marginal that it almost feels like we have regressed.