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Why Did The Browns Feel Compelled To Call It Wco?

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  • there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    F Frenchie wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @miktoxic said:

    there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    So thankful that I'm not the only fan that sees this loss of confidence. I'm telling you it'a all due to the changes coming too quickly and not using our strengths. As for Holmgren, I just think he under-estimated this (and a lot of other things) and has taken momentum and progress away to prove some absurd concept that he knows more than anyone else. Instead he should have just built on what was working and not work on what was building.

  • GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
    #6

    The loss of confidence and the frustration of this team is easy to see, When 2 of your best playmakers are constantly on the sideline instead of in the huddle and the playcalling is one dimensional and weak you expect that..

    Shurmur has no fire and is starting to resemble the infamous romeo crennel/mangini lump on the log syndrome already so i believe there may be 2 colliding or collaborating ego's upstairs that are at work here, either way..

    We may have already been here before in a sense..

    And all we can do is watch and hope changes are implemented and things get better, its really way to early to determine anything just yet, our second matchups vs the bungles, stoolers and ratbirds will tell everything we need to know..

  • P peterbell wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Isn't it about time for President Holmgren's "State of the Union" address..He made one last year to the press corps and fans.

    If he utters the words its going to take time I'm going to be pretty pissed.

  • there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    b86bB b86b wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @miktoxic said:

    there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    couldn't agree more and Shurmur is drowning fast..

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #9

    I think Shurmur deserves a fair shake here folks. Simply because this is his first season. Like all coaches,they evolve over time. If he makes the same mistakes next year as he makes this year,then I'll start to worry. so lets see what another draft and FA crop yields before throwing him under the bus. He deserves a chance to right the ship with a full cupboard.

  • 1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
    #10

    You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

  • You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

    USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
    #11

    @1-more-season said:

    You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

    I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.

  • @1-more-season said:

    You can see all that after week 5, really. They were 1-3 after 4 games last year. 2-2 this year and should be 3-1 except for a horrible defensive lapse. You can't believe that EM was better for this team. He has a proven five year record as a HC and 3 of those years are loosing seasons. Shurmur has 5 games as a HC and your writing him off.

    I'm beginning to think that even if the Browns went 15-1 some of you guys would still bitch and complain.

    "fart in the win"? try proof-reading Nell.

    I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.

    1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @usfbrown said:

    I strongly disagree about we shod be 3-1. But that's the NFL. One play can make or break a game. No shoulda coulda or woulda.

    I agree. That's just it one play made the difference could have easily gone the other way. It wasn't a blowout.

  • there's only one ego we have to worry about in the FO. it's from a guy who looks like he's sitting on the end of a dock clappin his paws for a fish.

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    lerner is just dumb. heckert is a good GM. add holmgren and the whole thing has turned to shit.

    Dick MellonD Dick Mellon wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @miktoxic said:

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

  • @miktoxic said:

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

    b86bB b86b wrote on last edited by
    #14

    @dick-mellon said:

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

    He ran a WCO!!!

  • @miktoxic said:

    last year this team had waaay more confidence, an underdog swagger and a sense of discipline. it's amazing what spark we saw last year has dissipated like a fart in the win since letting holmgren have it his way.

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

    1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @dick-mellon said:

    Holmgren has made only 2 terrible decisions.

    1. Getting Jake Delhomme.

    2. Letting Mangini and Ryan go.

    But I thought that I would give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt.1 (800) 438-6423

    Go ahead Holmgren, take a team that was fun to watch and improving in virtually every category, fire the leaders, then hire a head coach who has never accomplished anything in his fuсking life.

    Mangini sucked!! Let it go!

    But hey! It's still too early to jump to conclusions right?

  • G Gafreleets wrote on last edited by
    #16

    while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?

    if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?

    just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.

  • while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?

    if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?

    just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.

    BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @gafreleets said:

    while i do think the walrus is an idiot.............aren't you guys 2-2?

    if the season ended today that would be your 2nd best winning % in the past 2 decades or so wouldn't it?

    just sayin, you shouldnt be complaining too much yet............specially when i think you will have plenty to complain about later this year.

    Does the season ever end with 4 games ? ever ?

    The toughest is yet to come, and we have not seen anything that separates this regime from the previous one. While it is too early to judge the coaching staff and the management - The improvements have been so marginal that it almost feels like we have regressed.