Seneca Wallace Starts, Browns Beat Arizona--What Happens To Colt Mccoy-Poll
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if we draft a qb next year, with all the holes we need to fill, then holmgren will be the biggest dumbest dick in nfl history.
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I would like to add something here. Quarterback talk, for those who have no clue! The Browns have gone from stanky gutless clueless QB's for 10 years to Colt. Guess what maybe Colt is NOT the answer, but he plays with heart and came from winning which is now losing in Texas so that says something about Colt. He has ZERO weapons to work with, three useless running backs and a bunch of WR's who cannot get open and cannot catch
Colt may not be the answer to greatness, BUT IN NO WAY HE IS THE PROBLEM
and IF YOU ARE SO DUMB TO NOT SEE THAT, well quit submitting football analysis and start writing about which toilet paper serves your useless football brain ass best
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How about this scenario: The Browns again trade down and go from about 8th into the early 20s of the first round, giving them an early 20s pick and a mid 20s pick with their ATL pick. Also, they get a 2d rounder in the mid 20s. That gives them 4 of the top 60 or so picks and they take:
Zack Brown LB North Carolina
Michael Floyed WR Notre Dame
Jonathan Banks CB Miss. St.
Kirk Cousins QB Mich St.
What say you all?
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yes. i agree with rich4dick. colt might not be the answer but he is serviceable. fill the holes. get some weapons. (get a coach) then let's judge him. there are qbs every year in the draft. we need WR, RT, OLB, DE, CB, S, RB etc. etc.etc. etc.
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How about this scenario: The Browns again trade down and go from about 8th into the early 20s of the first round, giving them an early 20s pick and a mid 20s pick with their ATL pick. Also, they get a 2d rounder in the mid 20s. That gives them 4 of the top 60 or so picks and they take:
Zack Brown LB North Carolina
Michael Floyed WR Notre Dame
Jonathan Banks CB Miss. St.
Kirk Cousins QB Mich St.
What say you all?
How about this scenario: The Browns again trade down and go from about 8th into the early 20s of the first round, giving them an early 20s pick and a mid 20s pick with their ATL pick. Also, they get a 2d rounder in the mid 20s. That gives them 4 of the top 60 or so picks and they take:
Zack Brown LB North Carolina
Michael Floyed WR Notre Dame
Jonathan Banks CB Miss. St.
Kirk Cousins QB Mich St.
What say you all?
Not a big fan of Brown, and if we have say 5-7 first pick to early for Brown....
Say we do not draft a QB..
Then it will be Richerson or Jefferies with first...
Say Jefferies, Blackmon, Richerson are all gone with our first pick. The Browns will trade down...LOL this Board will explode...LOL
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I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.
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I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.
I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.
Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.
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I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.
Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.
Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.
What's their record again?
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Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.
What's their record again?
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Watch this.
Carolina 2010 passing/total yards ranking............32/32
Carolina 2011 passing/total yards ranking.............9/6
Tell me another single pick that makes that kind of improvement?
like neo already pointed out.....their record is terrible
having said that....the panthers have a pretty good offensive line already. not only that but they went out and added 2 pro bowl caliber TEs to compliment their already spectacular running game
carolina needed a QB....the browns dont...HUGE DIFFERENCE
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Watch this.
Carolina 2010 passing/total yards ranking............32/32
Carolina 2011 passing/total yards ranking.............9/6
Tell me another single pick that makes that kind of improvement?
Cam Newton's team has the same record as a team led by Colt McCoy. So you're basically saying that their defense is all to blame for the 4-9 record. Like our 31st rush defense rank has anything to do with our record. Point is that you need a complete team to be competitive and QB alone doesn't do that. We have too many holes to fill to give up on McCoy. If we played better defense, maybe we would have a better record. If our receiver catch the damn ball, maybe we have a better record.
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Zombo said:
Why are we comparing Cam Newton with Colt McCoy? Cam had a better game in first NFL start than McCoy has in two years.
I love Colt, but he's not on the same page as Newton talent-wise.
Z
carolina TEs>browns TEs
carolina LBs>browns LBs
carolina OL>browns OL
Carolina WRs>Browns WRs
you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately
its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world
QBs are only one player out of 53
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Zombo said:
Why are we comparing Cam Newton with Colt McCoy? Cam had a better game in first NFL start than McCoy has in two years.
I love Colt, but he's not on the same page as Newton talent-wise.
Z
carolina TEs>browns TEs
carolina LBs>browns LBs
carolina OL>browns OL
Carolina WRs>Browns WRs
you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately
its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world
QBs are only one player out of 53
its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world
QBs are only one player out of 53
Tell that to the Colts
QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.
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You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.
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Zombo said:
Why are we comparing Cam Newton with Colt McCoy? Cam had a better game in first NFL start than McCoy has in two years.
I love Colt, but he's not on the same page as Newton talent-wise.
Z
carolina TEs>browns TEs
carolina LBs>browns LBs
carolina OL>browns OL
Carolina WRs>Browns WRs
you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately
its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world
QBs are only one player out of 53
carolina TEs>browns TEs
carolina LBs>browns LBs
carolina OL>browns OL
Carolina WRs>Browns WRs
you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately
its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world
QBs are only one player out of 53
If they are so much more talented why did Carolina pick first last draft? You gonna blame that on one player out of 53?
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You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.
You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.
Then you must really be dense not to realize that a young (rookie) quarterback needs the support of a good team to increase his chances of succeeding. No rookie QB is going to come here, with the way the team is, and make an instant impact. It's like this every year with Browns fans. Every quarterback we draft is the next savior of Cleveland football. We have too many holes to fill to draft a quarterback high. We have two first round picks this year that could help close the talent gap. We can get a QB in FA.
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You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.
Then you must really be dense not to realize that a young (rookie) quarterback needs the support of a good team to increase his chances of succeeding. No rookie QB is going to come here, with the way the team is, and make an instant impact. It's like this every year with Browns fans. Every quarterback we draft is the next savior of Cleveland football. We have too many holes to fill to draft a quarterback high. We have two first round picks this year that could help close the talent gap. We can get a QB in FA.
Then you must really be dense not to realize that a young (rookie) quarterback needs the support of a good team to increase his chances of succeeding. No rookie QB is going to come here, with the way the team is, and make an instant impact. It's like this every year with Browns fans. Every quarterback we draft is the next savior of Cleveland football. We have too many holes to fill to draft a quarterback high. We have two first round picks this year that could help close the talent gap. We can get a QB in FA.
Your so off. Top 5 qbs get drafted in the top 5. Those aren't teams that offer great support for rookie qbs.
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its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world
QBs are only one player out of 53
Tell that to the Colts
QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.
Tell that to the Colts
QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.
ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury
their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line
QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense
pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football
yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game
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