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Seneca Wallace Starts, Browns Beat Arizona--What Happens To Colt Mccoy-Poll

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  • All this talk about Colt being good enough is a laugh... Do you guys watch the games? He either throws over the WR's head or at their feet I would rather have DA he had Colts accuracy but at least he had a canon. There was a little hope!

  • I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.

  • N Neo

    I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.

    @neo said:

    I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.

    Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.

  • @neo said:

    I don't know why everybody want us to draft a QB high. We have too many holes to fill to worry about getting a QB. RT,RG,WR,LB,another DE to compliment Sheard, and we still don't know what's going on a RB. Perhaps we can get a good veteran QB in FA to run the offense until we are ready to draft our franchise QB.

    Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.

    @htownbrown said:

    Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.

    What's their record again?

  • N Neo

    @htownbrown said:

    Yeah I bet Carolina is so pissed they passed on a RT for Cam Newton.

    What's their record again?

    @neo said:

    What's their record again?

    Watch this.

    Carolina 2010 passing/total yards ranking............32/32

    Carolina 2011 passing/total yards ranking.............9/6

    Tell me another single pick that makes that kind of improvement?

  • @neo said:

    What's their record again?

    Watch this.

    Carolina 2010 passing/total yards ranking............32/32

    Carolina 2011 passing/total yards ranking.............9/6

    Tell me another single pick that makes that kind of improvement?

    @htownbrown said:

    Watch this.

    Carolina 2010 passing/total yards ranking............32/32

    Carolina 2011 passing/total yards ranking.............9/6

    Tell me another single pick that makes that kind of improvement?

    like neo already pointed out.....their record is terrible

    having said that....the panthers have a pretty good offensive line already. not only that but they went out and added 2 pro bowl caliber TEs to compliment their already spectacular running game

    carolina needed a QB....the browns dont...HUGE DIFFERENCE

  • @neo said:

    What's their record again?

    Watch this.

    Carolina 2010 passing/total yards ranking............32/32

    Carolina 2011 passing/total yards ranking.............9/6

    Tell me another single pick that makes that kind of improvement?

    @htownbrown said:

    Watch this.

    Carolina 2010 passing/total yards ranking............32/32

    Carolina 2011 passing/total yards ranking.............9/6

    Tell me another single pick that makes that kind of improvement?

    Cam Newton's team has the same record as a team led by Colt McCoy. So you're basically saying that their defense is all to blame for the 4-9 record. Like our 31st rush defense rank has anything to do with our record. Point is that you need a complete team to be competitive and QB alone doesn't do that. We have too many holes to fill to give up on McCoy. If we played better defense, maybe we would have a better record. If our receiver catch the damn ball, maybe we have a better record.

  • Zombo said:

    Why are we comparing Cam Newton with Colt McCoy? Cam had a better game in first NFL start than McCoy has in two years.

    I love Colt, but he's not on the same page as Newton talent-wise.

    Z

    carolina TEs>browns TEs

    carolina LBs>browns LBs

    carolina OL>browns OL

    Carolina WRs>Browns WRs

    you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately

    its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world

    QBs are only one player out of 53

  • Zombo said:

    Why are we comparing Cam Newton with Colt McCoy? Cam had a better game in first NFL start than McCoy has in two years.

    I love Colt, but he's not on the same page as Newton talent-wise.

    Z

    carolina TEs>browns TEs

    carolina LBs>browns LBs

    carolina OL>browns OL

    Carolina WRs>Browns WRs

    you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately

    its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world

    QBs are only one player out of 53

    @cantonlegend said:

    its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world

    QBs are only one player out of 53

    Tell that to the Colts

    QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.

  • You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.

  • Zombo said:

    Why are we comparing Cam Newton with Colt McCoy? Cam had a better game in first NFL start than McCoy has in two years.

    I love Colt, but he's not on the same page as Newton talent-wise.

    Z

    carolina TEs>browns TEs

    carolina LBs>browns LBs

    carolina OL>browns OL

    Carolina WRs>Browns WRs

    you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately

    its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world

    QBs are only one player out of 53

    @cantonlegend said:

    carolina TEs>browns TEs

    carolina LBs>browns LBs

    carolina OL>browns OL

    Carolina WRs>Browns WRs

    you put a #1 overall QB onto a team with more talent and you are going to see better results immediately

    its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world

    QBs are only one player out of 53

    If they are so much more talented why did Carolina pick first last draft? You gonna blame that on one player out of 53?

  • You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.

    @htownbrown said:

    You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.

    Then you must really be dense not to realize that a young (rookie) quarterback needs the support of a good team to increase his chances of succeeding. No rookie QB is going to come here, with the way the team is, and make an instant impact. It's like this every year with Browns fans. Every quarterback we draft is the next savior of Cleveland football. We have too many holes to fill to draft a quarterback high. We have two first round picks this year that could help close the talent gap. We can get a QB in FA.

  • LOL. If it were up to the fans, they would draft a QB in the first round every year after the one last year failed to take them to the Super Bowl. 😆

  • N Neo

    @htownbrown said:

    You guys are ridiculous. No one said we are a qb away from the playoffs. But if your saying we can't fill holes and draft a qb with the first pick then your just dense.

    Then you must really be dense not to realize that a young (rookie) quarterback needs the support of a good team to increase his chances of succeeding. No rookie QB is going to come here, with the way the team is, and make an instant impact. It's like this every year with Browns fans. Every quarterback we draft is the next savior of Cleveland football. We have too many holes to fill to draft a quarterback high. We have two first round picks this year that could help close the talent gap. We can get a QB in FA.

    @neo said:

    Then you must really be dense not to realize that a young (rookie) quarterback needs the support of a good team to increase his chances of succeeding. No rookie QB is going to come here, with the way the team is, and make an instant impact. It's like this every year with Browns fans. Every quarterback we draft is the next savior of Cleveland football. We have too many holes to fill to draft a quarterback high. We have two first round picks this year that could help close the talent gap. We can get a QB in FA.

    Your so off. Top 5 qbs get drafted in the top 5. Those aren't teams that offer great support for rookie qbs.

  • @cantonlegend said:

    its so dumb that QBs get credit for a team doing better when football is the purest team sport in the world

    QBs are only one player out of 53

    Tell that to the Colts

    QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Tell that to the Colts

    QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.

    ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury

    their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line

    QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense

    pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football

    yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game

  • @clevelandmilidh said:

    Tell that to the Colts

    QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.

    ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury

    their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line

    QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense

    pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football

    yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game

    @cantonlegend said:

    ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury

    their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line

    QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense

    pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football

    yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game

    Yet everyone thinks they're gonna draft Luck when they have so many holes. Huh? Your just a fat kid in a puppy costume. Footballs not your thing.

  • @cantonlegend said:

    ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury

    their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line

    QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense

    pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football

    yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game

    Yet everyone thinks they're gonna draft Luck when they have so many holes. Huh? Your just a fat kid in a puppy costume. Footballs not your thing.

    @htownbrown said:

    Yet everyone thinks they're gonna draft Luck when they have so many holes. Huh? Your just a fat kid in a puppy costume. Footballs not your thing.

    fwiw i think they will take matt khalil from usc

    having said that....people are saying they will take luck so he can sit and learn behind peyton manning. luck is supposedly the greatest thing since sliced bread and lots of people think it would be foolish to pass on a talent like him regardless of your needs. peyton manning is like 35 years old and just had a major surgery to repair his neck.....his playing days are numbered and drafting a QB to supplant him in a few seasons isnt a terrible decision

  • @clevelandmilidh said:

    Tell that to the Colts

    QB's are like starting pitchers in baseball, an ace wins games for you single handily.

    ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury

    their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line

    QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense

    pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football

    yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game

    @cantonlegend said:

    ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury

    their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line

    QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense

    pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football

    yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game

    There defense is made to play from ahead, thats why there quick and undersized, they want to rush the passer. Without Manning they dont play with a lead, so they get run on. Your wrong, Peyton Manning is the reason they win. Like they didn't have injuries when Manning was playing? Brian Robiskie is a Pro-bowler with Manning throwing him the ball.

  • @htownbrown said:

    Yet everyone thinks they're gonna draft Luck when they have so many holes. Huh? Your just a fat kid in a puppy costume. Footballs not your thing.

    fwiw i think they will take matt khalil from usc

    having said that....people are saying they will take luck so he can sit and learn behind peyton manning. luck is supposedly the greatest thing since sliced bread and lots of people think it would be foolish to pass on a talent like him regardless of your needs. peyton manning is like 35 years old and just had a major surgery to repair his neck.....his playing days are numbered and drafting a QB to supplant him in a few seasons isnt a terrible decision

    @cantonlegend said:

    fwiw i think they will take matt khalil from usc

    having said that....people are saying they will take luck so he can sit and learn behind peyton manning. luck is supposedly the greatest thing since sliced bread and lots of people think it would be foolish to pass on a talent like him regardless of your needs. peyton manning is like 35 years old and just had a major surgery to repair his neck.....his playing days are numbered and drafting a QB to supplant him in a few seasons isnt a terrible decision

    But what about holes and immediate impact? Fwiw qb is a hole in Cleveland.

  • @cantonlegend said:

    ur dumb as shit if you think the colts are only losing because of peyton mannings injury

    their defense is one of the worst in the league. their team is decimated with injuries...they have absolutely no offensive line

    QBs are not like pitchers.....pitchers face individual batters one at a time. they are solely responsible for what happens against an opposing teams offense

    pitchers are far more relatable to goalies in soccer or hockey than they are QBs in football

    yes a good QB can win you a game....but they cant win games consistantly by themselves....football is a team game

    There defense is made to play from ahead, thats why there quick and undersized, they want to rush the passer. Without Manning they dont play with a lead, so they get run on. Your wrong, Peyton Manning is the reason they win. Like they didn't have injuries when Manning was playing? Brian Robiskie is a Pro-bowler with Manning throwing him the ball.

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    There defense is made to play from ahead, thats why there quick and undersized, they want to rush the passer. Without Manning they dont play with a lead, so they get run on. Your wrong, Peyton Manning is the reason they win. Like they didn't have injuries when Manning was playing? Brian Robiskie is a Pro-bowler with Manning throwing him the ball.

    you are a tard. the colts defense is last in points allowed. 28th in yards given up. 23rd in passing yards given up. and 30th in rush yards per game

    id ask if you have watched the colts play this year but i know you havent

    their running game is also ranked 28th in the league......and thats not mentioning their 27th in passing

    the colts are a terrible terrible team all around

    the only 2 players worth mentioning on the defense are freeney and mathis....the only player on offense worth mentioning is reggie wayne and hes the only colts WR thats been to the pro bowl

    if you think peyton manning makes guys look better you're right....if you think he makes them pro bowlers....YOURE WRONG AGAIN...nothing new there