Why We Need A Qb
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You pay the mortgage, then the insurance.
For a QB to excel, he needs a solid line. With that said, the only two positions on the line that should be addressed in the first round are LT and C. (for a right handed QB). We have addressed those positions. We are a bookend tackle away from having a very solid line, but that tackle does not need to be found in the first round. That is a waste of a pick.
And, as of this moment, we have no franchise QB to protect anyway.
Having too many solid offensive linemen is a great problem to have, first of all. Second of all, you dont have to draft a lineman in the first, you can draft another offensive skill player. Lastly, I respectfully disagree with you in regard to Colt and whether or not he is a "Franchise QB". I think he needs more time and you should address other positions. If the best player available on the board is RGIII and you bring him into to compete, then good. But I think you have a ton of other holes to fill.
Having too many solid offensive linemen is a great problem to have, first of all. Second of all, you dont have to draft a lineman in the first, you can draft another offensive skill player. Lastly, I respectfully disagree with you in regard to Colt and whether or not he is a "Franchise QB". I think he needs more time and you should address other positions. If the best player available on the board is RGIII and you bring him into to compete, then good. But I think you have a ton of other holes to fill.
I agree that you can never have enough solid linemen. We are one away from having a very solid line, spending more than one pick on OL would be wasteful.
As for Colt, he's shown his stuff. He's serviceable, but he'll never be a franchise QB.
At this point, it's either surround Colt with a bunch of talent so he can put up slightly better but still mediocre numbers, or get a franchise guy that can win with the players we have.
Mathematically, it makes the most sense just to draft/sign a QB.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
A good QB makes those around him plamakers.
Hines Ward- 3rd round pick.
Emmanuel Sanders-3rd round pick.
Mike Wallace- 3rd round pick.
Antonio Brown- 6th round pick.
Ben Roethlisberger- 1st round pick
James Jones- 3rd round pick.
Donald Driver-7th round pick
Jordy Nelson- 2nd round pick
Randall Cobb- 2nd round pick
Aaron Rodgers- 1st round pick
Pierre Garcon- 6th round pick
Reggie Wayne- 1st round pick
Austin Collie- 4th round pick
Anthony Gonzalez- 1st round pick. (hurts my argument a tad, but I'm presenting all the facts)
Peyton Manning- 1st round pick
And then there's the Patriots, with no 1st round picks at QB or WR. What they do have, however, is two first round and two second round Offensive Linemen. (Thats for you, Ghoolie)
A good QB makes those around him plamakers.
Hines Ward- 3rd round pick.
Emmanuel Sanders-3rd round pick.
Mike Wallace- 3rd round pick.
Antonio Brown- 6th round pick.
Ben Roethlisberger- 1st round pick
James Jones- 3rd round pick.
Donald Driver-7th round pick
Jordy Nelson- 2nd round pick
Randall Cobb- 2nd round pick
Aaron Rodgers- 1st round pick
Pierre Garcon- 6th round pick
Reggie Wayne- 1st round pick
Austin Collie- 4th round pick
Anthony Gonzalez- 1st round pick. (hurts my argument a tad, but I'm presenting all the facts)
Peyton Manning- 1st round pick
And then there's the Patriots, with no 1st round picks at QB or WR. What they do have, however, is two first round and two second round Offensive Linemen. (Thats for you, Ghoolie)
Thank you, this is my point!!!! How did Colt make his WR look this yr and last...
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Having too many solid offensive linemen is a great problem to have, first of all. Second of all, you dont have to draft a lineman in the first, you can draft another offensive skill player. Lastly, I respectfully disagree with you in regard to Colt and whether or not he is a "Franchise QB". I think he needs more time and you should address other positions. If the best player available on the board is RGIII and you bring him into to compete, then good. But I think you have a ton of other holes to fill.
I agree that you can never have enough solid linemen. We are one away from having a very solid line, spending more than one pick on OL would be wasteful.
As for Colt, he's shown his stuff. He's serviceable, but he'll never be a franchise QB.
At this point, it's either surround Colt with a bunch of talent so he can put up slightly better but still mediocre numbers, or get a franchise guy that can win with the players we have.
Mathematically, it makes the most sense just to draft/sign a QB.
I agree that you can never have enough solid linemen. We are one away from having a very solid line, spending more than one pick on OL would be wasteful.
As for Colt, he's shown his stuff. He's serviceable, but he'll never be a franchise QB.
At this point, it's either surround Colt with a bunch of talent so he can put up slightly better but still mediocre numbers, or get a franchise guy that can win with the players we have.
Mathematically, it makes the most sense just to draft/sign a QB.
WOW thats 2 post I agree with, maybe there is hope for Browns fans to have a good head on there shoulders when it come to the Browns. I have Witnessed 3 so far...
Hey lets draft a O-lineman with a 4th pick, because then we could have a really good o-line with shit playmakers that still can not score....GET the FUCK out OF here!!!
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You pay the mortgage, then the insurance.
For a QB to excel, he needs a solid line. With that said, the only two positions on the line that should be addressed in the first round are LT and C. (for a right handed QB). We have addressed those positions. We are a bookend tackle away from having a very solid line, but that tackle does not need to be found in the first round. That is a waste of a pick.
And, as of this moment, we have no franchise QB to protect anyway.
You pay the mortgage, then the insurance.
For a QB to excel, he needs a solid line. With that said, the only two positions on the line that should be addressed in the first round are LT and C. (for a right handed QB). We have addressed those positions. We are a bookend tackle away from having a very solid line, but that tackle does not need to be found in the first round. That is a waste of a pick.
And, as of this moment, we have no franchise QB to protect anyway.
Fair enough. Though OL are not dime a dozen as some on here contend, a third round pick for a RT or RG should be a sufficient investment.
At best a 2d rounder when you have 2 first round picks that can be applied to other positions of need, like LB, WR, DB, maybe RB or QB
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you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
Just do it this way:
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You pay the mortgage, then the insurance.
For a QB to excel, he needs a solid line. With that said, the only two positions on the line that should be addressed in the first round are LT and C. (for a right handed QB). We have addressed those positions. We are a bookend tackle away from having a very solid line, but that tackle does not need to be found in the first round. That is a waste of a pick.
And, as of this moment, we have no franchise QB to protect anyway.
Fair enough. Though OL are not dime a dozen as some on here contend, a third round pick for a RT or RG should be a sufficient investment.
At best a 2d rounder when you have 2 first round picks that can be applied to other positions of need, like LB, WR, DB, maybe RB or QB
Fair enough. Though OL are not dime a dozen as some on here contend, a third round pick for a RT or RG should be a sufficient investment.
At best a 2d rounder when you have 2 first round picks that can be applied to other positions of need, like LB, WR, DB, maybe RB or QB
I agree completely. First rounders are spent on LT and C. RT can be addressed in the second or third. Guards can be addressed whenever, mostly.
Of the eight QB's in the playoffs at this very moment:
5 were first round draft picks
Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, Eli Manning
One was a second round pick.
Drew Brees
(However, Brees was taken with the 32nd pick in the draft, so by today's standards he would be a first rounder as well.)
One was a third round pick
Matt Schaub
And the other is Tom Brady.
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you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
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Something all you guys are ignoring is the 15+ QBs since '99
There is absolutely no reason to think that one more first round guy is the answer
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you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
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Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
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Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
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You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
Yes, but if you take the number of first round QBs against the number of 2d, 3rd, 4th etc. round QBs, you will probably hit more on the first round than in any other round.
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
OK, but that is another question altogether.
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Since when has colt proven himself...
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Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
Yes, but if you take the number of first round QBs against the number of 2d, 3rd, 4th etc. round QBs, you will probably hit more on the first round than in any other round.
Yes, but if you take the number of first round QBs against the number of 2d, 3rd, 4th etc. round QBs, you will probably hit more on the first round than in any other round.
More QBs get drafted in the first round than any other...that alone is going to skew numbers
Not only that but if you pay a qb first round money you are likely to give him time to succeed before cutting ties. Problem with that logic is that the browns have 2 guys that have proven already to be better than several former first round picks but neither of them will be given the same time to progress in this offense that you'd give a first rounder
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Since when has colt proven himself...
Since when has colt proven himself...
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
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Since when has colt proven himself...
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
I would love to see any statistic that shows that Colt is "above average" at anything in the NFL so far.
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In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
I would love to see any statistic that shows that Colt is "above average" at anything in the NFL so far.
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Since when has colt proven himself...
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
With the PURE SHITSTORM that was the Browns offense this year, he had 16 tds to 13 ints. with no run game.
But no RG3 scored 67 points against Washington! He's already better than Colt!
People need to stfu about rg3
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