Why We Need A Qb
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You pay the mortgage, then the insurance.
For a QB to excel, he needs a solid line. With that said, the only two positions on the line that should be addressed in the first round are LT and C. (for a right handed QB). We have addressed those positions. We are a bookend tackle away from having a very solid line, but that tackle does not need to be found in the first round. That is a waste of a pick.
And, as of this moment, we have no franchise QB to protect anyway.
Fair enough. Though OL are not dime a dozen as some on here contend, a third round pick for a RT or RG should be a sufficient investment.
At best a 2d rounder when you have 2 first round picks that can be applied to other positions of need, like LB, WR, DB, maybe RB or QB
Fair enough. Though OL are not dime a dozen as some on here contend, a third round pick for a RT or RG should be a sufficient investment.
At best a 2d rounder when you have 2 first round picks that can be applied to other positions of need, like LB, WR, DB, maybe RB or QB
I agree completely. First rounders are spent on LT and C. RT can be addressed in the second or third. Guards can be addressed whenever, mostly.
Of the eight QB's in the playoffs at this very moment:
5 were first round draft picks
Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, Eli Manning
One was a second round pick.
Drew Brees
(However, Brees was taken with the 32nd pick in the draft, so by today's standards he would be a first rounder as well.)
One was a third round pick
Matt Schaub
And the other is Tom Brady.
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you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
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Something all you guys are ignoring is the 15+ QBs since '99
There is absolutely no reason to think that one more first round guy is the answer
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you do not need a great QB to get there... Flaco, Yates, Tebow, A. Smith. If stephen hawkings could coach a footaball team their offense would be awesome...our running backs would run into a black hole and shoot out a worm hole for a TD.
Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
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Flacco, Tebow, and Smith were all first round draft picks.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
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Draft position does not denote talent in the nfl
Best guard in the league was a 5th round pick
Reigning MVP was a 6th round pick
Most consistent WR went undrafted
Don't pretend like the reason you need a QB is because colt isn't a first round pick
Don't be that dumb
You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
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You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
Yes, but if you take the number of first round QBs against the number of 2d, 3rd, 4th etc. round QBs, you will probably hit more on the first round than in any other round.
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
OK, but that is another question altogether.
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Since when has colt proven himself...
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Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
Yes, but if you take the number of first round QBs against the number of 2d, 3rd, 4th etc. round QBs, you will probably hit more on the first round than in any other round.
Yes, but if you take the number of first round QBs against the number of 2d, 3rd, 4th etc. round QBs, you will probably hit more on the first round than in any other round.
More QBs get drafted in the first round than any other...that alone is going to skew numbers
Not only that but if you pay a qb first round money you are likely to give him time to succeed before cutting ties. Problem with that logic is that the browns have 2 guys that have proven already to be better than several former first round picks but neither of them will be given the same time to progress in this offense that you'd give a first rounder
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Read this
The draft is a gamble. Stick with the proven commodity in colt who is still growing and learning
Since when has colt proven himself...
Since when has colt proven himself...
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
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Since when has colt proven himself...
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
I would love to see any statistic that shows that Colt is "above average" at anything in the NFL so far.
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In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
I would love to see any statistic that shows that Colt is "above average" at anything in the NFL so far.
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Since when has colt proven himself...
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
In less than 2 full seasons of starting colt is already an above average qb in this league and that's without any help from his running game and WRs.
With the PURE SHITSTORM that was the Browns offense this year, he had 16 tds to 13 ints. with no run game.
But no RG3 scored 67 points against Washington! He's already better than Colt!
People need to stfu about rg3
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Great...16 TD's to 13 int's. How many TD's late in games against prevent defenses? How many wins did this "above average" QB lead us to?
He's servicable and not terrible but he's no where near being above average at anything except that he can take a beating.
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Great...16 TD's to 13 int's. How many TD's late in games against prevent defenses? How many wins did this "above average" QB lead us to?
He's servicable and not terrible but he's no where near being above average at anything except that he can take a beating.
Great...16 TD's to 13 int's. How many TD's late in games against prevent defenses? How many wins did this "above average" QB lead us to?
He's servicable and not terrible but he's no where near being above average at anything except that he can take a beating.
But how in God's name do you expect anything better with the O of this year man? Actually, I bet you would've expected worse out of McCoy if you knew before the season what our offense would be diminished to.
If live gives you lemons, make lemonade. McCoy was given lemon seeds and a pitcher. Thats it. It takes more to make lemonade than that. Especially good tasting lemonade.
So can we give McCoy some sugar, water, a mixing spoon, a nice stand set up to sell it by the street, and an O-Coordinator? I think he's earned it.
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You are clearly being the dumb one. Look at those players in the HOF. Look at who is named Pro Bowl, look at who is named All Pro. A greater percentage of the players designated as such come from the first round of the draft....and it goes down incrementally from there a you get to players in the lower rounds.
Yes, you are going to find the exceptions. Yes you will find a Brady in the 6th round....but you will need a first rounder to find a Manning, a Rodgers, a BR, a Flacco, a Ryan, a Newton, a Freeman, a Palmer, a Rivers etc. etc. etc.
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
hahahaha and QB's aren't even more of a gamble in other rounds? duuuuuuuuuuude.
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Or you could find guys like Jamarcus russel, Tim couch, ryan leaf, Alex smith, akili smith, etc etc etc
First round QBs are a gamble
You can hit or miss and set ur franchise up for success...or set ur franchise back another decade
hahahaha and QB's aren't even more of a gamble in other rounds? duuuuuuuuuuude.
hahahaha and QB's aren't even more of a gamble in other rounds? duuuuuuuuuuude.
It's different with a busted 4th round as opposed to a bust in the 1st round dude. The Browns need all the help they can get in other places besides QB. Which is why I hate drafting a QB in the 1st. We obviously need a top WR, DE, LB, CB, RT, and HB more than a QB in the 1st.
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