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The Rg3 Bidding War Has Begun

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  • @hoorta said:

    Exactly what I was afraid would happen. If we want Griffin, we're going to wind up paying an Andrew Luck price for him- and not even get Luck. 🙁

    Could be, but if this rumor is true the Skins are blowing their load awful early.

    @runyon27 said:

    Could be, but if this rumor is true the Skins are blowing their load awful early.

    What's even more sad is that the Skins OL sucks and their only legit WR is Santana Moss who is out of his prime. So basically he is being thrown into the fire...

  • #4 + #22 + 4th + 2013 2nd

    Beats that Redskins offer and I fully expectation the Browns to offer this.

  • We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year

    right?

    Honestly if that's what WSH is offering than damn. This'll be an interesting draft.

  • We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year

    right?

    Honestly if that's what WSH is offering than damn. This'll be an interesting draft.

    @mld-woody said:

    We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year

    right?

    Honestly if that's what WSH is offering than damn. This'll be an interesting draft.

    I mean...damn the Rams could have an actual dynasty if they hit on 60% of their picks.

  • #4 + #22 + 4th + 2013 2nd

    Beats that Redskins offer and I fully expectation the Browns to offer this.

    @rgiii-to-da-c-l-e said:

    #4 + #22 + 4th + 2013 2nd

    Beats that Redskins offer and I fully expectation the Browns to offer this.

    I don't think it beats their offer, but it's sure as hell as high as I'd go. As I said before, it depends on how much value the Rams put on Blackmon or Kalil. if they drop down to #6, they won't get either.

  • @mld-woody said:

    We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year

    right?

    Honestly if that's what WSH is offering than damn. This'll be an interesting draft.

    I mean...damn the Rams could have an actual dynasty if they hit on 60% of their picks.

    @bills-n-browns-fan said:

    I mean...damn the Rams could have an actual dynasty if they hit on 60% of their picks.

    A first, two high seconds, two high thirds, plus two first round picks next year. On second thought- if the Rams drop down to #6 they could easily offer the Browns one of the second round picks to move back up to #4. And if I'm Heckert- I take it.

  • We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year

    right?

    Honestly if that's what WSH is offering than damn. This'll be an interesting draft.

    Agree. hoorta... no way that bests the WSH rumor...

    @mld-woody said:

    We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year right?

    That kinda talk will make even me a RGIII fan... 😮

  • 2012 #4 + 22 + 4th + 2013 2nd

    vs

    2012 #6 + 2nd + 3rd + 2013 1st

    First offer is better. At worst, its an even offer.

  • @htownbrown said:

    If we dont get RG3 fine. But if we go into next season with Colt starting, f@ck Holmgren. He becomes the worthless piece of sh@t Ive always thought he was.

    Jesus no other legit options and you still just want to get rid of Colt. All Flynn is will be a 15 million dollar mistake and no rookie QB other than Luck or RGIII would be able to come in and start. You might as well give the still fairly untested QB another season and see what happens.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    Jesus no other legit options and you still just want to get rid of Colt. All Flynn is will be a 15 million dollar mistake and no rookie QB other than Luck or RGIII would be able to come in and start. You might as well give the still fairly untested QB another season and see what happens.

    Fairly untested? What? How many games does he need? I would rather bring in Jason Campbell on a short term basis, than watch a completely lost QB eye his wr throughout the route and then throw an uncatchable pass. Anyone who thinks Colt is better than JC should be slapped.

  • @bills-n-browns-fan said:

    I mean...damn the Rams could have an actual dynasty if they hit on 60% of their picks.

    A first, two high seconds, two high thirds, plus two first round picks next year. On second thought- if the Rams drop down to #6 they could easily offer the Browns one of the second round picks to move back up to #4. And if I'm Heckert- I take it.

    @hoorta said:

    A first, two high seconds, two high thirds, plus two first round picks next year. On second thought- if the Rams drop down to #6 they could easily offer the Browns one of the second round picks to move back up to #4. And if I'm Heckert- I take it.

    This post makes no sense. Why would STL trade to #6 to give up a 2nd to move back up to #4 when they could hypothetically take the Browns offer of 4+ 22+ +4th + 2013 2nd?

  • Let's say the Skins are only willing to give up their #6 and #39 #70

    That doesn't mean that we will get him if we give up our #4 #37 #68...nope because the rams may say...ok, unless you give up your #22 as well, we will give it to the skins even though they are offering us less.

    the three bids we will put in for him will be

    #4 #22 trade colt

    #4 and next years #1 trade colt

    #4 #37 next years 2nd rounder trade colt

    anything else is absurd and I think H&H realizes that Colt deserves to be on a team that stands up for their players

    I think Heckert and Holmgren will see that RG3 and nobody means 5 wins where Richardson, Floyd, Streeter, and Minnifield is 8 wins and road to superbowl in 2015

  • ^ Even if Kalil is around at #4?

    @tour2ma said:

    ^ Even if Kalil is around at #4?

    If Kalil is there its definitely more likely.

  • @hoorta said:

    A first, two high seconds, two high thirds, plus two first round picks next year. On second thought- if the Rams drop down to #6 they could easily offer the Browns one of the second round picks to move back up to #4. And if I'm Heckert- I take it.

    This post makes no sense. Why would STL trade to #6 to give up a 2nd to move back up to #4 when they could hypothetically take the Browns offer of 4+ 22+ +4th + 2013 2nd?

    @rgiii-to-da-c-l-e said:

    This post makes no sense. Why would STL trade to #6 to give up a 2nd to move back up to #4 when they could hypothetically take the Browns offer of 4+ 22+ +4th + 2013 2nd?

    Why would the Rams prefer the Washington offer?

    1) Because the Redskins offer is a 2013 first rounder, not a second

    2) A high third round pick is worth more than a high fourth (double actually, if you'd bother to check the chart)

    3) They still get Blackmon or Kalil trading back up.

    What would H&H have to do (hypothetically) to beat the (hypothetical) Redskins offer? Both firsts, a third and next years first. Sorry about that.

    Give up three premium picks for one player? RGIII had better be the next Elway at that price.

  • Let's say the Skins are only willing to give up their #6 and #39 #70

    That doesn't mean that we will get him if we give up our #4 #37 #68...nope because the rams may say...ok, unless you give up your #22 as well, we will give it to the skins even though they are offering us less.

    the three bids we will put in for him will be

    #4 #22 trade colt

    #4 and next years #1 trade colt

    #4 #37 next years 2nd rounder trade colt

    anything else is absurd and I think H&H realizes that Colt deserves to be on a team that stands up for their players

    I think Heckert and Holmgren will see that RG3 and nobody means 5 wins where Richardson, Floyd, Streeter, and Minnifield is 8 wins and road to superbowl in 2015

    @brownfish said:

    I think Heckert and Holmgren will see that RG3 and nobody means 5 wins where Richardson, Floyd, Streeter, and Minnifield is 8 wins and road to superbowl in 2015

    I love when guys like you do this.

  • Funny only a couple months ago we could have gotten Luck with our #6 #22 and next years first and #2...instead we have to basically give up all of our draft picks from now till 2015 for hopes and dreams.

    If RG3 didn't win the heisman all we would have to do was give the RAMS our #4 and #22 now it's just MADNESS

  • Man a lot can change between now and the draft. I wouldn't put much faith in rumors but even I got to admit 22,37 and possible next years 1st rounder is what it would take and that's a hell of a lot to pay.

    AJ Green Anthony Costanzo and Jabaal Sheard last years 4,22,37 I'd trade them for Newton.

    If you are like me and hoping we get RG3 you can just hope the Rams are turned off by going all the way down to 6.

    Honestly we don't even know if H&H want RG3 to begin with it just doesn't seem like their style.

  • @rgiii-to-da-c-l-e said:

    This post makes no sense. Why would STL trade to #6 to give up a 2nd to move back up to #4 when they could hypothetically take the Browns offer of 4+ 22+ +4th + 2013 2nd?

    Why would the Rams prefer the Washington offer?

    1) Because the Redskins offer is a 2013 first rounder, not a second

    2) A high third round pick is worth more than a high fourth (double actually, if you'd bother to check the chart)

    3) They still get Blackmon or Kalil trading back up.

    What would H&H have to do (hypothetically) to beat the (hypothetical) Redskins offer? Both firsts, a third and next years first. Sorry about that.

    Give up three premium picks for one player? RGIII had better be the next Elway at that price.

    @hoorta said:

    Why would the Rams prefer the Washington offer?

    1) Because the Redskins offer is a 2013 first rounder, not a second

    2) A high third round pick is worth more than a high fourth (double actually, if you'd bother to check the chart)

    3) They still get Blackmon or Kalil trading back up.

    What would H&H have to do (hypothetically) to beat the (hypothetical) Redskins offer? Both firsts, a third and next years first. Sorry about that.

    Give up three premium picks for one player? RGIII had better be the next Elway at that price.

    What? This post is very confusing.

  • In all fairness I don't believe that chart is valid anymore since it was made before the new rookie salary system.

    Could be wrong though.

  • 2012 #4 + 22 + 4th + 2013 2nd

    vs

    2012 #6 + 2nd + 3rd + 2013 1st

    First offer is better. At worst, its an even offer.

    @rgiii-to-da-c-l-e said:

    2012 #4 + 22 + 4th + 2013 2nd

    vs

    2012 #6 + 2nd + 3rd + 2013 1st

    First offer is better. At worst, its an even offer.

    Both of those offers are goofy.

  • That is an INSANE offer. This year's 1st, 2nd and 3rd and next year's 1st is what the Skins are offering and that might not even be their maximum? I might be completley done with the Browns if they tried to best that. No player is worth all of that especially not on a team with this many gaping holes.