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  • Here is the list of "near winners" in the Heisman race (2d or 3rd place)to have made the PFHOF:

    Sid Luckman 3rd

    Otto Graham 3rd

    Chuck Bednarik 3rd

    Tommy McDonald 3rd

    Bobby Bell 3rd

    Dick Butkus 3rd

    Bob Griese 2d

    John Elway 2d

    Eric Dickerson 3rd

    Steve Young 2d

    Troy Aikman 3rd

    And just as a reminder these are the Heisman winners that are in the PFHOF:

    Paul Hornung

    Roger Staubach

    OJ Simpson

    Tony Dorsett

    Earl Campbell

    Marcus Allen

    Barry Sanders

  • I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the cop who worked with the cop that arrested Kordell Stewart...er, wrong story.

    Anyways, I would trade you one noodle arm Colt McCoy plus a conditional 7th round draft pick for one rocket arm but highly immobile QB named Byron Leftwich. I've got Colbert on hold, so hook me up with H or H and let's get this deal done.

  • I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the cop who worked with the cop that arrested Kordell Stewart...er, wrong story.

    Anyways, I would trade you one noodle arm Colt McCoy plus a conditional 7th round draft pick for one rocket arm but highly immobile QB named Byron Leftwich. I've got Colbert on hold, so hook me up with H or H and let's get this deal done.

    Endymion said:

    I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the cop who worked with the cop that arrested Kordell Stewart...er, wrong story.

    Anyways, I would trade you one noodle arm Colt McCoy plus a conditional 7th round draft pick for one rocket arm but highly immobile QB named Byron Leftwich. I've got Colbert on hold, so hook me up with H or H and let's get this deal done.

    Tell you what....take Seneca Wallace instead and you got a deal.

    The fact is, if the Browns are going to make the decision to dump McCoy, I think they should also dump Wallace. He is about worthless in my eyes.

    Believe it or not the guy that I wouldn't mind seeing the Browns bring in to be Weeden't mentor/backup is Donovan McNabb. I don't believe he has a team, nor has he expressed an interest in retiring. And certainly he knows Heckert/Shurmur/Childress and their system.

  • please mik...quit crying for colt. you want more for weeden to fail so you can be right. dont fucking deny it....your posts are laced with vitriol.

    @choco said:

    please mik...quit crying for colt. you want more for weeden to fail so you can be right. dont fucking deny it....your posts are laced with vitriol.

    and my weed is laced as well. HA!

    i'm post the way i react to some of people's dumb posts. how short-sighted are u assholes? trade mccoy but keep wallace? for real? at least we know mccoy can at least play in this division. maybe even have succeeded with some OL help a running game and some receivers who can at least catch the fucking ball.

    everyone is so flippin excited that we've got this strong armed qb. great. i hope the guy lights it up. but he'll also have those pieces of the puzzle at his disposal that colt didn't. so if he doesn't light it up then what dummies? is he then worse than colt or do we need to draft another qb next year? it must be nice just to live in the moment and not look at the road ahead. everything is great and we're going to the super bowl. yippee!! i'm not pissed at weeden. i'm pissed at the piss poor draft. that's my beef. yeah we got our rb a qb and rt after that name me a player that can come in and make on difference on any side of the ball. with 12 fucking picks? don't cry for me argentina when ray rice is running through our lb corp for 40 yards a clip. or our corners are letting receivers fly by them like they're stuck in glue or that beautiful strongly thrown spiral is dropped by our 'scary good' wr corp.

    enough rant. point is i'd rather see mccoy in there if (god forbid)something happened to weeden, not wallace.

  • @choco said:

    please mik...quit crying for colt. you want more for weeden to fail so you can be right. dont fucking deny it....your posts are laced with vitriol.

    and my weed is laced as well. HA!

    i'm post the way i react to some of people's dumb posts. how short-sighted are u assholes? trade mccoy but keep wallace? for real? at least we know mccoy can at least play in this division. maybe even have succeeded with some OL help a running game and some receivers who can at least catch the fucking ball.

    everyone is so flippin excited that we've got this strong armed qb. great. i hope the guy lights it up. but he'll also have those pieces of the puzzle at his disposal that colt didn't. so if he doesn't light it up then what dummies? is he then worse than colt or do we need to draft another qb next year? it must be nice just to live in the moment and not look at the road ahead. everything is great and we're going to the super bowl. yippee!! i'm not pissed at weeden. i'm pissed at the piss poor draft. that's my beef. yeah we got our rb a qb and rt after that name me a player that can come in and make on difference on any side of the ball. with 12 fucking picks? don't cry for me argentina when ray rice is running through our lb corp for 40 yards a clip. or our corners are letting receivers fly by them like they're stuck in glue or that beautiful strongly thrown spiral is dropped by our 'scary good' wr corp.

    enough rant. point is i'd rather see mccoy in there if (god forbid)something happened to weeden, not wallace.

    @miktoxic said:

    and my weed is laced as well. HA!

    i'm post the way i react to some of people's dumb posts. how short-sighted are u assholes? trade mccoy but keep wallace? for real? at least we know mccoy can at least play in this division. maybe even have succeeded with some OL help a running game and some receivers who can at least catch the fucking ball.

    everyone is so flippin excited that we've got this strong armed qb. great. i hope the guy lights it up. but he'll also have those pieces of the puzzle at his disposal that colt didn't. so if he doesn't light it up then what dummies? is he then worse than colt or do we need to draft another qb next year? it must be nice just to live in the moment and not look at the road ahead. everything is great and we're going to the super bowl. yippee!! i'm not pissed at weeden. i'm pissed at the piss poor draft. that's my beef. yeah we got our rb a qb and rt after that name me a player that can come in and make on difference on any side of the ball. with 12 fucking picks? don't cry for me argentina when ray rice is running through our lb corp for 40 yards a clip. or our corners are letting receivers fly by them like they're stuck in glue or that beautiful strongly thrown spiral is dropped by our 'scary good' wr corp.

    enough rant. point is i'd rather see mccoy in there if (god forbid)something happened to weeden, not wallace.

    Youre so quick to say that McCoy suffered from lack of playmakers, protection, what have you..yet you condemn Wallace for not making plays with the same team?

    When Wallace got the nod over McCoy in 2010, his stats were actually pretty decent until he got hurt in Atlanta. He looked a hell of a lot better in his worst games in that stretch than McCoy has looked in his best games.

    So why again are you for McCoy over a more mobile, more experienced QB who's performed better with the same team?

  • Wallace ran out of bounds like a sissy. Made rookie mistakes,

    and couldn't win one game.

    The end.

  • Wallace ran out of bounds like a sissy. Made rookie mistakes,

    and couldn't win one game.

    The end.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Wallace ran out of bounds like a sissy. Made rookie mistakes,

    and couldn't win one game.

    The end.

    im right there w/ ya Cal.

    running out of bounds when you need one yard...time running out...game on the line...the yard is there to be had...I get it.

    its an enormous brainfart from a supposedly highly experienced QB for sure, and for many its inexcusable. but, sadly people are mortal. hopefully he cares as much about it as we do, but it is what it is.

    but that doesn't mean we tolerate sissies, either! ANY Brownie that ever shys from contact gots ta go, includin any pussy QB's!

  • Wallace ran out of bounds like a sissy. Made rookie mistakes,

    and couldn't win one game.

    The end.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Wallace ran out of bounds like a sissy. Made rookie mistakes,

    and couldn't win one game.

    The end.

    Oh, okay. He failed to win one game.

    Colts failed to win every game but...what...4?

  • ^i thought it was 6....does it matter?

    so wallace made a very poor play....if we are keeping track, then ya might not like colts numbers. didn't he, like quinn, try to throw a pass and have the ball slip out of his hands? whoops!

    i also remember a terrible.....terrible interception when he tried with all his might to get the ball deep to hillis in the end zone, only to have the ball picked at the 10 yard line and returned for a TD. i went and made a sandwich before that wobbler hit a set of hands....

    i could go on....its embarrassing tho so i wont.

    i dont think anyone is arguing that wallace is a good QB. only that he's still better than mccoy for the backup QB at THIS time.

  • Endymion said:

    I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the cop who worked with the cop that arrested Kordell Stewart...er, wrong story.

    Anyways, I would trade you one noodle arm Colt McCoy plus a conditional 7th round draft pick for one rocket arm but highly immobile QB named Byron Leftwich. I've got Colbert on hold, so hook me up with H or H and let's get this deal done.

    Tell you what....take Seneca Wallace instead and you got a deal.

    The fact is, if the Browns are going to make the decision to dump McCoy, I think they should also dump Wallace. He is about worthless in my eyes.

    Believe it or not the guy that I wouldn't mind seeing the Browns bring in to be Weeden't mentor/backup is Donovan McNabb. I don't believe he has a team, nor has he expressed an interest in retiring. And certainly he knows Heckert/Shurmur/Childress and their system.

    @the-gipper said:

    Tell you what....take Seneca Wallace instead and you got a deal.

    Nah, I'm not interested in Wallace, McCoy has more upside and he has a better chance of actually making/contributing to the Steelers. Leftwich has more value than Wallace.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Tell you what....take Seneca Wallace instead and you got a deal.

    Nah, I'm not interested in Wallace, McCoy has more upside and he has a better chance of actually making/contributing to the Steelers. Leftwich has more value than Wallace.

    Endymion said:

    Nah, I'm not interested in Wallace, McCoy has more upside and he has a better chance of actually making/contributing to the Steelers. Leftwich has more value than Wallace.

    Well, if I had my way they may both end up being able to be picked up for nothing.

    The Browns will need a decent, veteran backup to BW3. Colt is not "veteran" enough, really, and Wallace is not "decent" enough. Also Colt being here with BW3 taking his job could be awkward...if not poisonous. And Wallace is just poisonous.

    Although, in Browns history, it is a fact that they did once draft a QB who started for them for a year and a half...then brought in another QB who that player became the backup for.

    Those players were Jim Ninowski and Frank Ryan. Ninowski was like a 3d or 4th rounder and starte for about a year and a half, then the Browns traded for Ryan who became the starter and Ninowski became his backup for a number of years.