Josh Gordon
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it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
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I'm just going to say that I'm setting my own expectation bar at 30 receptions for 465 yards and 2 touchdowns.... I'm not expecting much this year from Gordon... I'm just happy they picked a quality height/weight/speed guy with solid production (albeit one season). I just want him to develop and now the first three draft picks next year can be DE, OLB, and CB.
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it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
About the same time you had that cactus shoved up your ass, jack.
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it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
About the same time you had that cactus shoved up your ass, jack.
About the same time you had that cactus shoved up your ass, jack.
wow. once again someone has to prove to everybody else that they can be the biggest asshole on the board.
i have no idea what you meant by your response.
must be the roid cycle kicking in once again.
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it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
To be fair Baylor did just put 4 guys out in the first round the past two years, and Utah is Pac-12 and sees several players drafted each season having a 3 player average over the past 5 seasons, 5 of whom were picked in the 2nd round. These are not MAC schools. If BG or W. Michigan's coaches started repping a player I wouldn't listen. These are schools from top conferences and while they are not NFL factories they tend to put out their far share of talent almost every season.
And while there are no need to burn bridges there also isn't any reason to rep someone you have no ties too. Both Baylor (cut him) and Utah (brought him and didn't even get the chance to use him) had no reason to go out of their way to rep this guy but did. And holy shit if there is karma in football I am surprised we haven't seen some stadiums burn to the fucking ground by now.
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it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Look at all the WRs in the HOF and see what schools they come from. It doesn't matter where you played college ball, only how good you are.
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Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
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Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
Yeah- enough of this "well he only went to ________" Either you can play in the NFL or you can't.
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A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
Yeah- enough of this "well he only went to ________" Either you can play in the NFL or you can't.
Yeah- enough of this "well he only went to ________" Either you can play in the NFL or you can't.
I note parenthetically however that the only school with more than one HOF WR is Ohio State....and that doesn't include Cris Carter who should make it in soon and will make it 3.
Though I don't think they are HOFers, OSU is as good as any school in the nation at producing WRs, including Lavelli/Warfield/Carter. Also you had Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, Santonio Holmes and several other quality NFLers.
(Its just that the Browns definitely got the dud of the bunch in Robo).
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Here is a list of WRs that had somewhat productive, or better WRs and TEs that have come out of Ohio St.:
Brian Baschnagel 9 years
David Boston 6 years
Cris Carter 13 years
Doug Donley 5 years
Joey Galloway 16 years
Ted Ginn Jr. 5 years
Terry Glenn 12 years
Jeff Graham 11 years
Brian Hartline 3 years (active and going)
Santonio Holmes 6 years (active)
Michael Jenkins 8 years (active)
Chris Sanders 7 years
Tony Gonzales 5 years (active)
Brian Stablein 6 years
Dante Lavelli 11 years
Paul Warfield 13 years
Leonard Willis 4 years
Horace Gillom 10 years
Bob Shaw 5 years (1940s)
TEs:
Rickey Dudley 9 years
John Frank 5 years
Ben Hartsock 8 years
Darnell Sanders 3 years
Jan White 5 years.
Can anyone think of any school that can come close to matching OSU in NFL WR/TE production?
Best bets: USC/Miami?
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Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
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Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
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it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Look at all the WRs in the HOF and see what schools they come from. It doesn't matter where you played college ball, only how good you are.
Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Look at all the WRs in the HOF and see what schools they come from. It doesn't matter where you played college ball, only how good you are.
did jerry rice flunk 3 drug tests while in college?
no wonder gordon didn't play.
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OK, yes, apparently you are talking about Shannon Sharpe. I personally would not consider him the greatest tight end.....but that is not to disparage him. He is one of a handful who are in the HOF. Here are the schools of the others:
Dave Casper Notre Dame
Mike Ditka Pitt
John Mackey Syracuse
Charlie Sanders Minnesota
Jackie Smith Northwestern St.
Ozzie Newsome Alabama
Sharpe Savannah St.
Kellen Winslow Missouri
Perhaps the guy that many will consider the best of all time is still playing:
Tony Gonzales California
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Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Look at all the WRs in the HOF and see what schools they come from. It doesn't matter where you played college ball, only how good you are.
did jerry rice flunk 3 drug tests while in college?
no wonder gordon didn't play.
did jerry rice flunk 3 drug tests while in college?
no wonder gordon didn't play.
What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
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I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
Shannon Sharpe
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What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
Shannon Sharpe
Shannon Sharpe
You saw the list. I wouldn't put Sharpe at the top of it.
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Here is the list of the people named "Gordon" that have played in the NFL. They are calling Josh: "Commissioner Gordon". Is there anyone on this list who should carry the mantle of "Commissioner"?
Alex Gordon LB 1987-1993
Amon Gordon DT 2004-2011
Bobby Gordon DB 1958-1960
Charles Gordon DB 2006-2008
Cletis Gordon DB 2006-2011
Cornell Gordon DB 1965-1972
Darrien Gordon DB 1993-2002
Dick Gordon WR-SE-FL 1965-1974
Dwayne Gordon LB 1993-2000
Ira Gordon G-T 1970-1975
John Gordon DT 1972-1972
Lamar Gordon RB 2002-2006
Larry Gordon LB 1976-1982
Lennox Gordon RB 1999-2000
Lou Gordon T-G-E 1930-1938
Richard Gordon TE 2011-2011
Sonny Gordon DB 1987-1987
Steve Gordon C 1998-1998
Tim Gordon DB 1987-1992
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What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
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What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
He failed 2 drug tests at Baylor and none at Utah. Openly admitted to the two he failed at Baylor.
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