Josh Gordon
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Here is a list of WRs that had somewhat productive, or better WRs and TEs that have come out of Ohio St.:
Brian Baschnagel 9 years
David Boston 6 years
Cris Carter 13 years
Doug Donley 5 years
Joey Galloway 16 years
Ted Ginn Jr. 5 years
Terry Glenn 12 years
Jeff Graham 11 years
Brian Hartline 3 years (active and going)
Santonio Holmes 6 years (active)
Michael Jenkins 8 years (active)
Chris Sanders 7 years
Tony Gonzales 5 years (active)
Brian Stablein 6 years
Dante Lavelli 11 years
Paul Warfield 13 years
Leonard Willis 4 years
Horace Gillom 10 years
Bob Shaw 5 years (1940s)
TEs:
Rickey Dudley 9 years
John Frank 5 years
Ben Hartsock 8 years
Darnell Sanders 3 years
Jan White 5 years.
Can anyone think of any school that can come close to matching OSU in NFL WR/TE production?
Best bets: USC/Miami?
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Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
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Lance Alworth 1962-1972 Arkansas
Raymond Berry 1955-1967 SMU
Fred Biletnikoff 1965-1978 Florida St.
Tom Fears 1948-1956 Santa Clara/UCLA
Bob Hayes 1965-1975 Florida A&M
Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (also HB) Wisc/Mich
1946-1956
Michael Irvin 1988-1999 Miami Fla.
Charlie Joiner 1969-1986 Grambling
Steve Largent 1976-1989 Tulsa
Dante Lavelli 1946-1956 Ohio St.
James Lofton 1978-1993 Stanford
Don Maynard 1958, 1960-1973 UTEP
Tommy McDonald 1957-1968 Oklahoma
Bobby Mitchell (also HB) 1958-1968 Illinois
Art Monk 1980-1995 Syracuse
Pete Pihos 1947-1955 Indiana
Jerry Rice 1985-2000 Mississippi Valley St.
John Stallworth 1974-1987 Alabama A&M
Lynn Swann 1974-1982 USC
Charley Taylor (also HB) 1964-1975, Ariz. St.
1977 Paul Warfield 1964-1977 Ohio St.
A few other receivers under consideration include Cris Carter of Ohio State, Tim Brown of Notre Dame. You also have the likes of Randy Moss from Marshall, Terrell Owens of Tennessee-Chattanooga.
So, the answer is: why not Baylor and Utah?
I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
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it's called not burning bridges. in life and business kharma is a bitch. why screw someone over when they might be connected to you in some way in the future.
btw, when did utah and baylor become the milestone at which fans, analysts and coaches judge NFL preparedness and talent?
Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Look at all the WRs in the HOF and see what schools they come from. It doesn't matter where you played college ball, only how good you are.
Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Look at all the WRs in the HOF and see what schools they come from. It doesn't matter where you played college ball, only how good you are.
did jerry rice flunk 3 drug tests while in college?
no wonder gordon didn't play.
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OK, yes, apparently you are talking about Shannon Sharpe. I personally would not consider him the greatest tight end.....but that is not to disparage him. He is one of a handful who are in the HOF. Here are the schools of the others:
Dave Casper Notre Dame
Mike Ditka Pitt
John Mackey Syracuse
Charlie Sanders Minnesota
Jackie Smith Northwestern St.
Ozzie Newsome Alabama
Sharpe Savannah St.
Kellen Winslow Missouri
Perhaps the guy that many will consider the best of all time is still playing:
Tony Gonzales California
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Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Look at all the WRs in the HOF and see what schools they come from. It doesn't matter where you played college ball, only how good you are.
did jerry rice flunk 3 drug tests while in college?
no wonder gordon didn't play.
did jerry rice flunk 3 drug tests while in college?
no wonder gordon didn't play.
What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
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I know this is a list of wrs, but lets not forget probably the greatest TE in NFL history came from Savannah St.
What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
Shannon Sharpe
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What do you mean? Ozzie Newsome was from Alabama.
Shannon Sharpe
Shannon Sharpe
You saw the list. I wouldn't put Sharpe at the top of it.
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Here is the list of the people named "Gordon" that have played in the NFL. They are calling Josh: "Commissioner Gordon". Is there anyone on this list who should carry the mantle of "Commissioner"?
Alex Gordon LB 1987-1993
Amon Gordon DT 2004-2011
Bobby Gordon DB 1958-1960
Charles Gordon DB 2006-2008
Cletis Gordon DB 2006-2011
Cornell Gordon DB 1965-1972
Darrien Gordon DB 1993-2002
Dick Gordon WR-SE-FL 1965-1974
Dwayne Gordon LB 1993-2000
Ira Gordon G-T 1970-1975
John Gordon DT 1972-1972
Lamar Gordon RB 2002-2006
Larry Gordon LB 1976-1982
Lennox Gordon RB 1999-2000
Lou Gordon T-G-E 1930-1938
Richard Gordon TE 2011-2011
Sonny Gordon DB 1987-1987
Steve Gordon C 1998-1998
Tim Gordon DB 1987-1992
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What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
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What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
He failed 2 drug tests at Baylor and none at Utah. Openly admitted to the two he failed at Baylor.
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Here is the list of the people named "Gordon" that have played in the NFL. They are calling Josh: "Commissioner Gordon". Is there anyone on this list who should carry the mantle of "Commissioner"?
Alex Gordon LB 1987-1993
Amon Gordon DT 2004-2011
Bobby Gordon DB 1958-1960
Charles Gordon DB 2006-2008
Cletis Gordon DB 2006-2011
Cornell Gordon DB 1965-1972
Darrien Gordon DB 1993-2002
Dick Gordon WR-SE-FL 1965-1974
Dwayne Gordon LB 1993-2000
Ira Gordon G-T 1970-1975
John Gordon DT 1972-1972
Lamar Gordon RB 2002-2006
Larry Gordon LB 1976-1982
Lennox Gordon RB 1999-2000
Lou Gordon T-G-E 1930-1938
Richard Gordon TE 2011-2011
Sonny Gordon DB 1987-1987
Steve Gordon C 1998-1998
Tim Gordon DB 1987-1992
Here is the list of the people named "Gordon" that have played in the NFL. They are calling Josh: "Commissioner Gordon". Is there anyone on this list who should carry the mantle of "Commissioner"?
I prefer "Flash" Gordon for a wide receiver.
Zombo
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What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
Not necessarily. You don't see (or hear about) the super stud players in lesser conferences exactly because they're not on National TV every week. Everyone poo-pooed Boise State until they started beating the snot out of the Big Boys that thought they were scheduling a cram puff. Conversely, just because the guy plays like a stud in a "Power" Conference doesn't make him a lock to do the same in the NFL- the list of Big Time Busts in that category is legion.
I won't waste my time looking up great non WR NFL players that came out of nowhere schools, but Lyle Alzado (Yankton State) and Ken Anderson (Augustana) immediately come to mind.
You can't coach up inferior athletic talent- Antonio Gates didn't even play football in college.
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What has that got to do with what school(s) he went to?
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
now i read this morning that he said he only flunked one drug test when it was really three. i'm not saying the kid sucks because of it (god knows i've smoked plenty of weed in my day, and still enjoy the green once and awhile.....but my future and my family's future didn't depend on me passwing a drug test. especially 3 drug test!) so let's not even mention the likes of HOFers when we talk about josh gordon.
everyone gets sooo excited about these guys, it's nuts. carlton mitchell and jordan norwood for example. wow, they've got the measurables. they've got this and that. 3 catches by one of them in a 2 year span. 23 catches by the other in a 3 year span. and they can't beat out massaqua and couldn't beat out robiskie.
listen i hope this kid IS the next jerry rice. i really do. i want the best for this team. to some i might sound pessimistic, i call it realistic.
sure you can catch lightning in a bottle but heckert's looking up at a bright sky while doing so.
i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
That is NOT something that can be proclaimed to be "just an opnion". That is a factual statement that should be supported by facts.
Prove your facts.
Show us where any one SEC school is so much greater than the likes of Baylor or Utah at producing quality WRs.
I showed you the HOF WR list. I don't think your proposition can be supported by that.
See what you come up with.
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i brought up the topic about schools on this josh gordon thread. clearly everyone thinks the big 12 has now risen from the ashes like some great phoenix. isn't that the conference everyone one was trying to get out of? by no means would i compare a player from utah or baylor to a player that consistently performs on national tv week in and week out and plays against top ten teams like the SEC does. that's just my opinion.
That is NOT something that can be proclaimed to be "just an opnion". That is a factual statement that should be supported by facts.
Prove your facts.
Show us where any one SEC school is so much greater than the likes of Baylor or Utah at producing quality WRs.
I showed you the HOF WR list. I don't think your proposition can be supported by that.
See what you come up with.
That is NOT something that can be proclaimed to be "just an opnion". That is a factual statement that should be supported by facts.
Prove your facts.
See what you come up with.
no. it's an opinion. my opinion is that if i were a GM and needed a defensive gem wouldn't you look at alabama or lsu first (last year)?
He failed 2 drug tests at Baylor and none at Utah. Openly admitted to the two he failed at Baylor.
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As most know, I am anti-drug. I am also not naive enough to believe most young folks today haven't used drugs, especially pot. Gordon tested positive early in his College playing career doing what kids do. He was NOT stupid enough to test positive at the Combine or his workout, when his Pro future was on the line. To me, there is a huge difference, & I believe the young man deserves this chance. Something tells me he'll be fine.
Mike
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That is NOT something that can be proclaimed to be "just an opnion". That is a factual statement that should be supported by facts.
Prove your facts.
See what you come up with.
no. it's an opinion. my opinion is that if i were a GM and needed a defensive gem wouldn't you look at alabama or lsu first (last year)?
He failed 2 drug tests at Baylor and none at Utah. Openly admitted to the two he failed at Baylor.
no. it's an opinion. my opinion is that if i were a GM and needed a defensive gem wouldn't you look at alabama or lsu first (last year)?
Even if he did fail a third at Utah, which I doubt considering the circumstances of who came out with the info and when, he still admitted to the two he got at Baylor in the post draft interview he had with Cleveland media.
Oh and when it comes down to it I will always believe a person face to face over some anonymous people who are not willing to give their names.
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