Richardson Won't Go Down
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I cannot imagine that we would take a QB first overall. Weeden is far from the biggest problem on this team.
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Weeden is not the problem, but if we have a full house cleaning then I think they will go with a QB. We honestly have many problems, but its hard to believe with the 10 top 5 picks we have had. Paul brown put a curse on this team and it seems like if it ain't one thing its another.
It's the curse of Phil Dawson, once we get rid of him sky is the limit.
It's the curse of Phil Dawson, once we get rid of him sky is the limit.
Yea dudes 7 of 7. He made three field goals of 50+ yards against the Ravens. He is the 7th kicker in NFL history with such a game. He sucks.
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Trent Richardson looks great. Stay healthy, young man.
FWIW, I always felt Bo Jackson was extremely overrated, based on a tremendous run on MNF and his ability to play multiple sports. Unfortunately, we will never know how good he was due to his career ending injury.
Despite all his mouthyness, etc. I always believed Jackson was - at best - a poor man's Dion Sanders. The guy is HOF NLF and played a pretty good game of MLB.
Any way, I am encouraged by the play and potential of the Offense. Seems to me, the Defense has been an achilles heal this year - right Ed?
Is it injuries along the DL, the lack of depth at CB due to the ingroance of Joe Haden, a combination of both?
I hate to sound like a fan but - given the apparent potential of the offense and the likely to add a Defensive Stud or two in the upcoming draft, things might be looking up. They will draft extremely high. Maybe #1?????????????????????
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Weeden didn't give up 40+ points. I'd say he's probably not the weakest link.
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Trent Richardson looks great. Stay healthy, young man.
FWIW, I always felt Bo Jackson was extremely overrated, based on a tremendous run on MNF and his ability to play multiple sports. Unfortunately, we will never know how good he was due to his career ending injury.
Despite all his mouthyness, etc. I always believed Jackson was - at best - a poor man's Dion Sanders. The guy is HOF NLF and played a pretty good game of MLB.
Any way, I am encouraged by the play and potential of the Offense. Seems to me, the Defense has been an achilles heal this year - right Ed?
Is it injuries along the DL, the lack of depth at CB due to the ingroance of Joe Haden, a combination of both?
I hate to sound like a fan but - given the apparent potential of the offense and the likely to add a Defensive Stud or two in the upcoming draft, things might be looking up. They will draft extremely high. Maybe #1?????????????????????
I hate to sound like a fan but - given the apparent potential of the offense and the likely to add a Defensive Stud or two in the upcoming draft, things might be looking up. They will draft extremely high. Maybe #1?????????????????????
I've been screaming for a LB forever. All we ever do is draft LBs in round 4 or later.
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Weeden didn't give up 40+ points. I'd say he's probably not the weakest link.
Weeden didn't give up 40+ points. I'd say he's probably not the weakest link.
LOL
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I hate to sound like a fan but - given the apparent potential of the offense and the likely to add a Defensive Stud or two in the upcoming draft, things might be looking up. They will draft extremely high. Maybe #1?????????????????????
I've been screaming for a LB forever. All we ever do is draft LBs in round 4 or later.
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like the time the LB was on the ground and was trying to tackle him from his jock and set him up for one of the DEs to come in and bust the fuck out of him?
yeah. i saw that too.
maybe after today he and RGlll will learn how to go down when necessary.
like the time the LB was on the ground and was trying to tackle him from his jock and set him up for one of the DEs to come in and bust the fuck out of him?
yeah. i saw that too.
maybe after today he and RGlll will learn how to go down when necessary.
I kept saying that today as well, he can live to fight another day.
You have clearly never played the sport.
You can't tell a guy to go down when he's playing a game. It's ingrained in players at a young age to fight for every inch. To never give up.
While it may make sense in terms of injuries, a players will never just "go down" and live to die another day. And if he does, that's not a player you want on your team.
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I cannot imagine that we would take a QB first overall. Weeden is far from the biggest problem on this team.
problem is Mark, is if we are in position to pick #1 overall, then it means Weeden has not performed as we would have liked, if he improves as we hope, we would be expecting to win 4 or 5 of the remaining games, the temptation to take a QB if they look like a day 1 Starter would be too great to turn down, especially with all Browns fans wanting something special, either that or you drop few spots to get a couple of future #1 picks and give Weeden one more year to prove his worth. But have to say with Shurmur gone, i think the team would be a lot better off all round.
problem is Mark, is if we are in position to pick #1 overall, then it means Weeden has not performed as we would have liked, if he improves as we hope, we would be expecting to win 4 or 5 of the remaining games, the temptation to take a QB if they look like a day 1 Starter would be too great to turn down, especially with all Browns fans wanting something special, either that or you drop few spots to get a couple of future #1 picks and give Weeden one more year to prove his worth. But have to say with Shurmur gone, i think the team would be a lot better off all round.
I dont think it would be fair to put the blame on Weedon if we end up picking 1st. The bottom line is, if your defense gives up 41 points your not winning very many ballgames. Peyton, Brady Rodgers or whoever else you wanna throw in there wouldnt win with a defense that plays like ours did today.
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problem is Mark, is if we are in position to pick #1 overall, then it means Weeden has not performed as we would have liked, if he improves as we hope, we would be expecting to win 4 or 5 of the remaining games, the temptation to take a QB if they look like a day 1 Starter would be too great to turn down, especially with all Browns fans wanting something special, either that or you drop few spots to get a couple of future #1 picks and give Weeden one more year to prove his worth. But have to say with Shurmur gone, i think the team would be a lot better off all round.
I dont think it would be fair to put the blame on Weedon if we end up picking 1st. The bottom line is, if your defense gives up 41 points your not winning very many ballgames. Peyton, Brady Rodgers or whoever else you wanna throw in there wouldnt win with a defense that plays like ours did today.
I dont think it would be fair to put the blame on Weedon if we end up picking 1st. The bottom line is, if your defense gives up 41 points your not winning very many ballgames. Peyton, Brady Rodgers or whoever else you wanna throw in there wouldnt win with a defense that plays like ours did today.
San Fran would have won and Chicago would have tied.
6.25% of the teams in the NFL would have won/tied this week if their defense gave up 41 points.
If you blame this on Weeden, you are stupid. If you blame this on anyone other than injuries/coaching...you are stupid.
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Weeden has what it takes to be an NFL qb. No way we pick another qb in the first round. Weeden has all the measurables but just needs experience. He's the least of our problems.
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I dont think it would be fair to put the blame on Weedon if we end up picking 1st. The bottom line is, if your defense gives up 41 points your not winning very many ballgames. Peyton, Brady Rodgers or whoever else you wanna throw in there wouldnt win with a defense that plays like ours did today.
San Fran would have won and Chicago would have tied.
6.25% of the teams in the NFL would have won/tied this week if their defense gave up 41 points.
If you blame this on Weeden, you are stupid. If you blame this on anyone other than injuries/coaching...you are stupid.
San Fran would have won and Chicago would have tied.
6.25% of the teams in the NFL would have won/tied this week if their defense gave up 41 points.
If you blame this on Weeden, you are stupid. If you blame this on anyone other than injuries/coaching...you are stupid.
Yep, coaching, injuries, a suspension and a bunch of backups starting
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I cannot imagine that we would take a QB first overall. Weeden is far from the biggest problem on this team.
problem is Mark, is if we are in position to pick #1 overall, then it means Weeden has not performed as we would have liked, if he improves as we hope, we would be expecting to win 4 or 5 of the remaining games, the temptation to take a QB if they look like a day 1 Starter would be too great to turn down, especially with all Browns fans wanting something special, either that or you drop few spots to get a couple of future #1 picks and give Weeden one more year to prove his worth. But have to say with Shurmur gone, i think the team would be a lot better off all round.
problem is Mark, is if we are in position to pick #1 overall, then it means Weeden has not performed as we would have liked, if he improves as we hope, we would be expecting to win 4 or 5 of the remaining games, the temptation to take a QB if they look like a day 1 Starter would be too great to turn down, especially with all Browns fans wanting something special, either that or you drop few spots to get a couple of future #1 picks and give Weeden one more year to prove his worth. But have to say with Shurmur gone, i think the team would be a lot better off all round.
dude, give Zombo back his avatar... I want to hear what he has to say...
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Five games in and we've already conceded that the Browns will have the #1 pick?
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Five games in and we've already conceded that the Browns will have the #1 pick?
Five games in and we've already conceded that the Browns will have the #1 pick?
No, but we're the leader in the Clubhouse at this point. Let Shurmur coach out the year, and I really believe 0-16 is looking more and more likely.
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like the time the LB was on the ground and was trying to tackle him from his jock and set him up for one of the DEs to come in and bust the fuck out of him?
yeah. i saw that too.
maybe after today he and RGlll will learn how to go down when necessary.
I kept saying that today as well, he can live to fight another day.
You have clearly never played the sport.
You can't tell a guy to go down when he's playing a game. It's ingrained in players at a young age to fight for every inch. To never give up.
While it may make sense in terms of injuries, a players will never just "go down" and live to die another day. And if he does, that's not a player you want on your team.
You have clearly never played the sport.
You can't tell a guy to go down when he's playing a game. It's ingrained in players at a young age to fight for every inch. To never give up.
While it may make sense in terms of injuries, a players will never just "go down" and live to die another day. And if he does, that's not a player you want on your team.
Bullshit...
I take back my comment in the other thread...
You are not just biased...
You are clearly brain damaged from fighting for one too many extra yards...
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I cannot imagine that we would take a QB first overall. Weeden is far from the biggest problem on this team.
I cannot imagine that we would take a QB first overall. Weeden is far from the biggest problem on this team.
I doubt that happens. Weeden has shown enough you hitch to his wagon another couple of years. He has shown some good and some bad. The bad is the type of stuff that should get better as he plays in more games. The guy has 5 NFL starts.
I am not saying it will, but it should.
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Five games in and we've already conceded that the Browns will have the #1 pick?
Five games in and we've already conceded that the Browns will have the #1 pick?
No. I really think the team will be a handful for every opponent they meet this season. But we do need the injured...and the suspended back on the field. You can't have a Haden/Taylor/Jackson/Patterson/Massaquoi/Benjamin/JMJ etc. etc. sitting on their asses.
The young team will get better and better....and several opposing teams will pay the piper for it.
The only questionable factor: the coach. He can lose games all by himself with no help from anyone.
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This thread competes with the previous one for the "Dumbassery" award.
I apologize. This got put on the wrong thread.
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Weeden has what it takes to be an NFL qb. No way we pick another qb in the first round. Weeden has all the measurables but just needs experience. He's the least of our problems.
Weeden has what it takes to be an NFL qb. No way we pick another qb in the first round. Weeden has all the measurables but just needs experience. He's the least of our problems.
I agree wholeheartedly. And he is gaining invaluable inexperience. Weeden, with his rocket and a year experience in the NFL, is going to outperform any rookie that is drafted next year.
The record of QBs whose defenses give up 40 points in a game is 0-15 this year.
He flicks it from the 30 yard line and it lands softly in his hands at the 12 ... that 58 yards in the air folks. A guy like Colt McCoy would have to hire Federal Express to get the ball that far.
We've got a QB. And a brilliant RB. Start holding teams to 20 points per game and the wins will start falling into place.
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