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  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    Sertraline is like 7 dollars a month for an individual. If that's something that helps to keep them from offing themselves, I'm not against it. Mental illness is a bitch, and the stigma against it needs to go. Good use of government money. It's not like he's getting free percocet.

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    @vaportrail said:

    Sertraline is like 7 dollars a month for an individual. If that's something that helps to keep them from offing themselves, I'm not against it. Mental illness is a bitch, and the stigma against it needs to go. Good use of government money. It's not like he's getting free percocet.

    He's getting free adderall. I have anxiety. Everyone has anxiety. It's the human condition. Trust me this guy is faking it.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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      @vaportrail said:

      Sertraline is like 7 dollars a month for an individual. If that's something that helps to keep them from offing themselves, I'm not against it. Mental illness is a bitch, and the stigma against it needs to go. Good use of government money. It's not like he's getting free percocet.

      He's getting free adderall. I have anxiety. Everyone has anxiety. It's the human condition. Trust me this guy is faking it.

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      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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      @the-cysko-kid said:

      He's getting free adderall. I have anxiety. Everyone has anxiety. It's the human condition. Trust me this guy is faking it.

      I think I'll trust the doctors. Even if what you say is true, the drugs still have uses for the basic functioning of other patients.

      Also, now that I think about it, where does he get this stuff from? I'm pretty sure the government doesn't give out adderall for free.

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        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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        It's a terrible use of government money. We will never agree that people with anxiety deserve a handout

        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          He's getting free adderall. I have anxiety. Everyone has anxiety. It's the human condition. Trust me this guy is faking it.

          I think I'll trust the doctors. Even if what you say is true, the drugs still have uses for the basic functioning of other patients.

          Also, now that I think about it, where does he get this stuff from? I'm pretty sure the government doesn't give out adderall for free.

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          @vaportrail said:

          I think I'll trust the doctors. Even if what you say is true, the drugs still have uses for the basic functioning of other patients.

          Also, now that I think about it, where does he get this stuff from? I'm pretty sure the government doesn't give out adderall for free.

          Oh yes SSI is a private foundation. He's totally paying for his healthcare. And on top of that since he's got no job, ssi pays his child support for his illegitimate child. Good use!

          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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            You guys really seem to be surrounded by boatloads of dirtbags.

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              You guys really seem to be surrounded by boatloads of dirtbags.

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              @heckofajobbrownie said:

              You guys really seem to be surrounded by boatloads of dirtbags.

              It's true not everyone I know chose to join the military, learn a trade, get a decent job and do the right thing. I'm sure if you descended from the hills and went into some of the lesser areas of L.A. you'd see some people abusing the wonderful system.

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                It's really hypocritical of you to complain about it as much as you do, and to refuse to report it.

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                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                  It's really tiresome of you to pretend like its not happening.

                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                    I'm not pretending that it isn't happening. My argument is that it's not happening enough that it's making a significant impact. You disagree. You know people who, in your mind, are fucking the system, yet you do nothing. Curious.

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                      @heckofajobbrownie said:

                      You guys really seem to be surrounded by boatloads of dirtbags.

                      It's true not everyone I know chose to join the military, learn a trade, get a decent job and do the right thing. I'm sure if you descended from the hills and went into some of the lesser areas of L.A. you'd see some people abusing the wonderful system.

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                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                      It's true not everyone I know chose to join the military, learn a trade, get a decent job and do the right thing. I'm sure if you descended from the hills and went into some of the lesser areas of L.A. you'd see some people abusing the wonderful system.

                      It is true. I would. I guess the difference is that I understand that irresponsibility exists, and I'll support efforts to cut down on programs that might be ineffective and encourage it, but I wouldn't make it the entirety of my political philosophy, or imagine it's a really big issue. I'd say, "Being poor and ignorant sure sucks." And I'd move on with my day.

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                        But walk me through it, Cysko. I don't think you disagree with the Food Stamp program in and of itself, right? You believe there should be a safety net program to make sure people have something to eat, yes?

                        I'm not trying to be a dick. (It comes naturally.) I'm just wondering what your concern is and what you want done about it.

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                          I'm not pretending that it isn't happening. My argument is that it's not happening enough that it's making a significant impact. You disagree. You know people who, in your mind, are fucking the system, yet you do nothing. Curious.

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                          @vaportrail said:

                          I'm not pretending that it isn't happening. My argument is that it's not happening enough that it's making a significant impact. You disagree. You know people who, in your mind, are fucking the system, yet you do nothing. Curious.

                          So if 50% of the employees of an office steal stationary and the boss looks the other way, but it pisses you off and its bad for the companies' bottom line. Do you report a guy you've known for a long long time even though you know the boss looks the other way, do you report this one guy?

                          Like I've accused you of before you only see in black and white. What good does it do to report one it two or three people you know well? Maybe instead, you suggest the boss put a camera in the supply room and some of the problem takes care of itself.

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                            @vaportrail said:

                            I'm not pretending that it isn't happening. My argument is that it's not happening enough that it's making a significant impact. You disagree. You know people who, in your mind, are fucking the system, yet you do nothing. Curious.

                            So if 50% of the employees of an office steal stationary and the boss looks the other way, but it pisses you off and its bad for the companies' bottom line. Do you report a guy you've known for a long long time even though you know the boss looks the other way, do you report this one guy?

                            Like I've accused you of before you only see in black and white. What good does it do to report one it two or three people you know well? Maybe instead, you suggest the boss put a camera in the supply room and some of the problem takes care of itself.

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                            @the-cysko-kid said:

                            So if 50% of the employees of an office steal stationary and the boss looks the other way, but it pisses you off and its bad for the companies' bottom line. Do you report a guy you've known for a long long time even though you know the boss looks the other way, do you report this one guy?

                            Like I've accused you of before you only see in black and white. What good does it do to report one it two or three people you know well? Maybe instead, you suggest the boss put a camera in the supply room and some of the problem takes care of itself.

                            Except, in the case of reality, less than 2% of the accused employees are actually stealing. What kind of oversight would you want such that it justifies the savings?

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                              But walk me through it, Cysko. I don't think you disagree with the Food Stamp program in and of itself, right? You believe there should be a safety net program to make sure people have something to eat, yes?

                              I'm not trying to be a dick. (It comes naturally.) I'm just wondering what your concern is and what you want done about it.

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                              @heckofajobbrownie said:

                              But walk me through it, Cysko. I don't think you disagree with the Food Stamp program in and of itself, right? You believe there should be a safety net program to make sure people have something to eat, yes?

                              I'm not trying to be a dick. (It comes naturally.) I'm just wondering what your concern is and what you want done about it.

                              I want it to be for the needy and not the greedy. Does that make sense to you? No one will deny there are needy people. But there's also liars scammers and those that simply won't try to help themselves.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                @the-cysko-kid said:

                                So if 50% of the employees of an office steal stationary and the boss looks the other way, but it pisses you off and its bad for the companies' bottom line. Do you report a guy you've known for a long long time even though you know the boss looks the other way, do you report this one guy?

                                Like I've accused you of before you only see in black and white. What good does it do to report one it two or three people you know well? Maybe instead, you suggest the boss put a camera in the supply room and some of the problem takes care of itself.

                                Except, in the case of reality, less than 2% of the accused employees are actually stealing. What kind of oversight would you want such that it justifies the savings?

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                                @vaportrail said:

                                Except, in the case of reality, less than 2% of the employees are stealing. What kind of oversight would you want such that it justifies the savings?

                                Like I said. Put a camera on it. There's already case workers. Make them earn their paychecks . Look in on their cases. It doesn't take a detective agency to see when a "single" mom lives with another adult with an income. It just takes someone caring to look.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  @vaportrail said:

                                  Except, in the case of reality, less than 2% of the employees are stealing. What kind of oversight would you want such that it justifies the savings?

                                  Like I said. Put a camera on it. There's already case workers. Make them earn their paychecks . Look in on their cases. It doesn't take a detective agency to see when a "single" mom lives with another adult with an income. It just takes someone caring to look.

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                                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                                  Like I said. Put a camera on it. There's already case workers. Make them earn their paychecks. Look in on their cases. It doesn't take a genius to see when a "single" mom lives with another adult with an income. It just takes someone caring to look.

                                  Honestly, man. The most likely way this kind of thing would get found out isn't deputizing welfare case workers to investigate housing arrangements, but for someone like you to report them. But even then, it's probably that she's found the loophole in the system and is exploiting it. Now the question would be how you close that loophole without harming the single mothers you're trying to help in the first place.

                                  I'm just saying: you're not the only person who has thought of these types of things.

                                  I'll tell you a story when I have more time.

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