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  • @usfbrown said:

    Best of all time is heavily influenced by what generation your grew up in and who you saw first hand. It's kinda like asking who was the best guitarist of all time, Hendrix because of his creativity and unsually playing style. Rhodes because his superb combination of classical runs, heavy riffs, and great solos? Malmsteen because of his fast noodling?

    With different criteria, you get a different answer.

    I guess you are right...seeing that I never heard of Rhodes or Malmsteen.

    Some people say the best guitarist was Carl Perkins....try that out for a generational thing.

    On the QB thing....you WILL have older gents fight you to the death if you leave out the names of Luckman/Baugh/Graham from any discussion of the greatest QB of all time.

    And you have young people today who put Montana, Bradshaw, Fouts, etc. in the same league with Luckman and Baugh. Old guys they never saw play. To them the 5 greatest QBs of all time are Brady, Manning, Brees, Favre and whoever.

    @the-gipper said:

    I guess you are right...seeing that I never heard of Rhodes or Malmsteen.

    Some people say the best guitarist was Carl Perkins....try that out for a generational thing.

    On the QB thing....you WILL have older gents fight you to the death if you leave out the names of Luckman/Baugh/Graham from any discussion of the greatest QB of all time.

    And you have young people today who put Montana, Bradshaw, Fouts, etc. in the same league with Luckman and Baugh. Old guys they never saw play. To them the 5 greatest QBs of all time are Brady, Manning, Brees, Favre and whoever.

    Randy Rhodes? The late and great original guitarist for Ozzy Osbourne?!?!

  • @the-gipper said:

    I guess you are right...seeing that I never heard of Rhodes or Malmsteen.

    Some people say the best guitarist was Carl Perkins....try that out for a generational thing.

    On the QB thing....you WILL have older gents fight you to the death if you leave out the names of Luckman/Baugh/Graham from any discussion of the greatest QB of all time.

    And you have young people today who put Montana, Bradshaw, Fouts, etc. in the same league with Luckman and Baugh. Old guys they never saw play. To them the 5 greatest QBs of all time are Brady, Manning, Brees, Favre and whoever.

    Randy Rhodes? The late and great original guitarist for Ozzy Osbourne?!?!

    @usfbrown said:

    Randy Rhodes? The late and great original guitarist for Ozzy Osbourne?!?!

    Not someone I would put on any greatest list. I will have to see what others think.

    I have done so. I consulted Rolling Stone Magazine who ranked the Top 100 guitarists of all time.

    Here are the Top 25:

    1. Hendrix

    2. Duane Allman

    3. BB King

    4. Clapton

    5. Robert Johnson

    6. Chuck Berry

    7. Stevie Ray Vaughn

    8. Ry Cooder

    9. Jimmy Page

    10. Keith Richards

    11. Kirk Hammett

    12. Kur Cobain

    13. Jerry Garcia

    14. Jeff Beck

    15. Santana

    16. Johnny Ramone

    17. Jack White

    18. John Frusciante

    19. Richard Thompson

    20. James Burton (session player)

    21. George Harrison

    22. Mike Bloomfield

    23. Warren Haynes (Allman Bros.)

    24. The Edge

    25. Freddy King

    a few others in the top 50:

    28. Stephen Stills

    31. Dick Dale

    37. Bo Diddley

    39. Brian May

    40. John Fogerty

    42. Robert Fripp

    44. Scotty Moore (Elvis's guitarist)

    45. Zappa

    46. Les Paul

    48. Joe Perry

    50. Pete Townshend

    Randy Rhoads was rated 85th between Eddie Cochrane and Joan Jett.

    Malmsteen didn't make top 100

  • Randy Rhodes was very talented but he wouldn't even sniff the top five in my mind. Steve vai and satriani are gifted as well but their music kind of sucks.

  • Randy Rhodes was very talented but he wouldn't even sniff the top five in my mind. Steve vai and satriani are gifted as well but their music kind of sucks.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Randy Rhodes was very talented but he wouldn't even sniff the top five in my mind. Steve vai and satriani are gifted as well but their music kind of sucks.

    Hey! Something we totally agree on muscially Lol.

    I just picked Rhodes because he could do the technical playing that petrricui and the others you mention do. But he made great riffs and just plain great music He didn't need to noddle around the entire song to make it awesome. Shit they play crazy train at every damn football game.

  • Randy Rhodes was very talented but he wouldn't even sniff the top five in my mind. Steve vai and satriani are gifted as well but their music kind of sucks.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Randy Rhodes was very talented but he wouldn't even sniff the top five in my mind. Steve vai and satriani are gifted as well but their music kind of sucks.

    I didn't see either Vai or Satriani listed in Rolling Stone's Top 100. Of course I think the list was the choice of one particular RS writer....so it may be just one opinion.

  • The best is likely to be someone we've never heard of. This guy on acoustic impressed me big time

  • For what its worth a website called Ranker.com did a survey of some 6000 people on who the best QB of all time was. Here are the results, which, naturally are more weighted toward the more recent:

    1. Montana

    2. Brady

    3. Unitas

    4. P. Manning

    5. Elway

    6. Marino

    7. Favre

    8. Young

    9. Starr

    10. Staubach

    11. Bradshaw

    12. Brees

    13. Graham

    14. Aikman

    15. Tarkenton

    16. Warner

    17. Rodgers

    18. Baugh

    19. Kelly

    20. Fouts

    21. Moon

    22. Tittle

    23. Namath

    24. Stabler

    25. E. Manning

    26. Bob Griese

    27. Van Brocklin

    28. Jurgenson

    29. Luckman

    30. Blanda

    31. Roethlisberger

    32. Dawson

    33. A. Manning

    34. Herber

    35. Layne

    36. Simms

    37. Plunkett

    38. Bledsoe

    39. Theisman

    40. Meredith

    41. Lamonica

    42. Esiason

    43. Anderson (Ken)

    44. Gabriel

    45. Cunningham

    46. Kosar

    47. McNair

    48. McNabb

    49. Vick

    50.........You choose

    Some candidates: Collins, Kreig, Everett, Hart, DeBerg, Hadl, Brunell, Snead, Ferguson, Brodie, Plummer, Kitna, Palmer, Brad Johnson, Charley Johnson, Gannon, Jaworski, George, Grogan, Harbaugh, O'Brien, Kramer, Romo, Culpepper, Bartkowski, Beurlein, Sipe, Lomax, Parilli, White, Jack Kemp, Morrall, Cutler, Dilfer, Rote, Wade, Pastorini, Rypien, Bert Jones, McMahon, Doug Williams, Frank Ryan, Bill Nelsen, Majkowski, Waterfield, Friedman, Parker, Driscoll, Clark

    Italics means current HOF members.

  • The best is likely to be someone we've never heard of. This guy on acoustic impressed me big time

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The best is likely to be someone we've never heard of. This guy on acoustic impressed me big time

    Several guys like Clapton, Hendrix, Townshend have said Phil Keaggy is the best they have seen. Glass Harp.

  • Local Cleveland whack-job Glenn schwartz apparently mentored Joe Walsh and taught hendrix to play with his teeth and also played hendrix' last birthday party

  • Local Cleveland whack-job Glenn schwartz apparently mentored Joe Walsh and taught hendrix to play with his teeth and also played hendrix' last birthday party

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Local Cleveland whack-job Glenn schwartz apparently mentored Joe Walsh and taught hendrix to play with his teeth and also played hendrix' last birthday party

    Walsh wasn't included on that list. Again, one guy's opinion.

  • Local Cleveland whack-job Glenn schwartz apparently mentored Joe Walsh and taught hendrix to play with his teeth and also played hendrix' last birthday party

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Local Cleveland whack-job Glenn schwartz apparently mentored Joe Walsh and taught hendrix to play with his teeth and also played hendrix' last birthday party

    Hate to break it to people but Hendrix was doing hammer ons and pull offs. Not really playing with his teeth.