Message To Ghoolie
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i can and am one of the biggest ball busters here BUT where's the voice of reason?
the browns are young and growing. they were on a high of winning three games in a row. they got their asses handed to them today. so did the giants. so are the patriots. fire coughlin an cut manning? fire belichick and cut brady?
slow the roll brothers. we are just starting this journey. blow the whole shit up again and you're asking for another 5 year plan from someone else who you'll all say is great and then 4 losses in a row call for his head? i didn't like the weeden pick BUT he's the guy now. give him a chance. if this time next year and he's still our QB and he's making these mistakes then i'll agree....good riddance. but in all relative terms as far as NFL experience, he's still a kid.
yep it woulda have been great bidding for a playoff spot but REALLY? outside of Z or poG who really thought we had a chance.
stay the course and add some key positional players and I"LL GUARANTEE the preseason prognosticators will have us in the top 10 next year.
best thing that happened this year is holgren was shown the door. on the other hand heckert deserves to stay. just no more philly affiliation pleez BANNER.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Tell me again how Adrian Petersen was the lesser pick versus Joe Fatass Thomas, who by the way, got his ass handed to him by a nobody today.
Bite me. Go look up my posts from back then- I wanted Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson before that.
So how did the next Jim Brown (Richardson) look today? Pretty much sucked.
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Weeden reminds me a lot of Vinnie Testaverde especially early in his career, mediocre at best.
There are those times when he shows good potential, but then makes a poor decision that leaves you scratching your head.
Maybe and I say Maybe, he will find his ass under a new system and better play calling??? Holmgren rolled the dice on a 28 year old prospect out of panic that all the decent QB's available would be off the board. He burned a 1st round pick and he's not played like a 1st round pick, atleast not yet.
Weeden has struggled his rookie season, but we have other problems to solve as well. Some help on defense wouldn't hurt.
As the old saying goes you can't win in this league without a franchise QB.
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@mike-h said:
Russell Wilson, the guy who's too short to play QB in NFL , has had dramatically less passes deflected and leaps and bounds more success than Weeden.
Yup, although it's simple really, he's a better player now than Weeden ever will be, and they didn't reach like a giraffe to select him.
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I hate to break the news, but a couple of things
1. Its not all Weedens fault. Example good coaches not even great coaches play to the QB strenth they wrap the Offense around that person not force feed him the Offense they want to run. When Denver had Tebow they changed there whole Offense then they got Manning and changed again to the Manning Offense. Denver has had 3 different offenses in less than 2 years!!!! Wash today did not have RG3 did you see the Pistel formation? No because they change there offense for Cousins. Weeden is a High Tempo Shot Gun QB. Do we ever run a high temp Offense?? Hell no!!! Shit we have TRich in the back field and we do not even know how to use him.
2. There is NO GOOD QB WORTH TAKING IN THE FIRST ROUND IN THE COMING UP DRAFT. I feel sorry for KC who more than likely will take Gino Smith who has bust written all over him.
3. Weeden will be our QB next year, and If we get the right Coach I will bet every Dollar I have we will go for at least 4,000 yards and 20 TDS
4. The offense we should be running if Shurmer had a clue is the NFL version of Okl State offense that Weeden ran. Simple!!!!
5. I hate when the Browns lose, but at least this lose puts the nail in the Coffin of Shurmer....Really after what TRICH said today just show how we have the worst coach in the NFL
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If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Whatever Weeden is, he IS the Browns starting QB and he will be for the remainder of the season.
The ONLY way COlt gets to start is at the request of another NFL team who the Browns are trying to unload him to.
Weeden is the best the Browns have, so until the franchise steps up and really drafts a high profile QB we are not going to have a winner. Admittedly, RG3 and Luck are both turning out to be shit busts.
The thing about Weeden.....he's likle Jekyll and Hyde...on the td pass for 65 yards, he hits the receiver in stride. Tom Brady couldn't throw it any better. Then the 2 int's....it's like he can't think quick enough to make the right decisions. He sucks, but I don't think MCcoy would be any better. I wouldn't try to draft another qb.....I would see what is available in free agency, and hope Weeden improves.
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Weeden is finished as a starting QB
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Weeden pocket awareness is horrible. There were guys open.. For a guy with a cannon he is the check down king..
Colt will get a start before the season is over.
Put that in writing.
Weeden pocket awareness is horrible. There were guys open.. For a guy with a cannon he is the check down king..
Colt will get a start before the season is over.
Put that in writing.
Only if Weeden gets hurt before this Sunday, or gets hurt before the final game at Pitt. Otherwise Colt will NEVER see the field
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Ha ha, Colt is not going to start, unless as stated Weeden gets hurt. Colt is not an NFL QB in my opinion. He looks terrible. We need to hope Weeden improves or perhaps get someone in free agency.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
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alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
Bullshit. Jauron was clueless after the 'Skins made adjustments and started rolling Cousins out.
So who you gonna blame the turnovers on Mik? Shurmur? Those were both piss-poor decisions and lousy passes on Weeden. Cost us 14 points right there.
Those were two evenly matched teams. Shanahan sent Shure-loss back to coaching school.
Bullshit. Jauron was clueless after the 'Skins made adjustments and started rolling Cousins out.
So who you gonna blame the turnovers on Mik? Shurmur? Those were both piss-poor decisions and lousy passes on Weeden. Cost us 14 points right there.
Those were two evenly matched teams. Shanahan sent Shure-loss back to coaching school.
Those roll outs were killing us, and he did them perfectly, even fooling the cameraman. I would also trade Weeden and Colt for Cousins.
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Ha ha, Colt is not going to start, unless as stated Weeden gets hurt. Colt is not an NFL QB in my opinion. He looks terrible. We need to hope Weeden improves or perhaps get someone in free agency.
Ha ha, Colt is not going to start, unless as stated Weeden gets hurt. Colt is not an NFL QB in my opinion. He looks terrible. We need to hope Weeden improves or perhaps get someone in free agency.
No good QB's available in Free Agency this off season. We are stuck with hoping a new coach can make Weeden better. (which is what I am hoping for)
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
You have a ton of posts this year about how AP isn't doing shit.
Regarding Richardson, he DID break Jim Brown's rookie TD record, so as I told you, JBs records WILL fall to this kid.
Meanwhile, your favorite pick, fats-ass, slow-footed Joe THomas got his ass handed to him, and for how great he is, funny how the Browns can't run to his side.
Richardson also broke another JB record, he has gone 14 games so far without being charged with rape.
Don't seem to remember saying AP sucked- do remember saying it's a passing league and the RB position is minimized. Peterson's projected 2,000 yards MIGHT get the Vikes into the playoffs.
Oh and Richardson broke JBs rookie TD and rushing records? So what? Brown did that in 12 games, It took Richardson 14. When Trent runs for 2,000 yards next year- which is what Brown's year 2- 1,500 yards projects out to over a 16 game season, get back to me.
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alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
I will say this: in the last 3 games the Browns won they only scored 20-21 points. (and they even had several turnovers in each of those games).
I put this one on being a bad day for the defense and Jauron compared to how this defense performed lately. Plain and simple: this is the one in 4 games where the defense sucked. They did it versus the Giants. They did it in the last part of the Cowboys game.
The question is how will they perform vs. the Broncos and Steelers.
I think they are in trouble vs. the Broncos who may be the most complete team in the NFL. Passing/rushing/defense.
The Steelers? Not so much.
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If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
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alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
I will say this: in the last 3 games the Browns won they only scored 20-21 points. (and they even had several turnovers in each of those games).
I put this one on being a bad day for the defense and Jauron compared to how this defense performed lately. Plain and simple: this is the one in 4 games where the defense sucked. They did it versus the Giants. They did it in the last part of the Cowboys game.
The question is how will they perform vs. the Broncos and Steelers.
I think they are in trouble vs. the Broncos who may be the most complete team in the NFL. Passing/rushing/defense.
The Steelers? Not so much.
I will say this: in the last 3 games the Browns won they only scored 20-21 points. (and they even had several turnovers in each of those games).
I put this one on being a bad day for the defense and Jauron compared to how this defense performed lately. Plain and simple: this is the one in 4 games where the defense sucked. They did it versus the Giants. They did it in the last part of the Cowboys game.
The question is how will they perform vs. the Broncos and Steelers.
I think they are in trouble vs. the Broncos who may be the most complete team in the NFL. Passing/rushing/defense.
The Steelers? Not so much.
They scored 30 vs KC
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If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
But if you ask a lot of posters on this forum somehow that's Richardson's fault.
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I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
But if you ask a lot of posters on this forum somehow that's Richardson's fault.
But if you ask a lot of posters on this forum somehow that's Richardson's fault.
The 2 yards per carry is in majority, his fault.
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