Message To Ghoolie
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I hate to break the news, but a couple of things
1. Its not all Weedens fault. Example good coaches not even great coaches play to the QB strenth they wrap the Offense around that person not force feed him the Offense they want to run. When Denver had Tebow they changed there whole Offense then they got Manning and changed again to the Manning Offense. Denver has had 3 different offenses in less than 2 years!!!! Wash today did not have RG3 did you see the Pistel formation? No because they change there offense for Cousins. Weeden is a High Tempo Shot Gun QB. Do we ever run a high temp Offense?? Hell no!!! Shit we have TRich in the back field and we do not even know how to use him.
2. There is NO GOOD QB WORTH TAKING IN THE FIRST ROUND IN THE COMING UP DRAFT. I feel sorry for KC who more than likely will take Gino Smith who has bust written all over him.
3. Weeden will be our QB next year, and If we get the right Coach I will bet every Dollar I have we will go for at least 4,000 yards and 20 TDS
4. The offense we should be running if Shurmer had a clue is the NFL version of Okl State offense that Weeden ran. Simple!!!!
5. I hate when the Browns lose, but at least this lose puts the nail in the Coffin of Shurmer....Really after what TRICH said today just show how we have the worst coach in the NFL
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If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Whatever Weeden is, he IS the Browns starting QB and he will be for the remainder of the season.
The ONLY way COlt gets to start is at the request of another NFL team who the Browns are trying to unload him to.
Weeden is the best the Browns have, so until the franchise steps up and really drafts a high profile QB we are not going to have a winner. Admittedly, RG3 and Luck are both turning out to be shit busts.
The thing about Weeden.....he's likle Jekyll and Hyde...on the td pass for 65 yards, he hits the receiver in stride. Tom Brady couldn't throw it any better. Then the 2 int's....it's like he can't think quick enough to make the right decisions. He sucks, but I don't think MCcoy would be any better. I wouldn't try to draft another qb.....I would see what is available in free agency, and hope Weeden improves.
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Weeden is finished as a starting QB
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Weeden pocket awareness is horrible. There were guys open.. For a guy with a cannon he is the check down king..
Colt will get a start before the season is over.
Put that in writing.
Weeden pocket awareness is horrible. There were guys open.. For a guy with a cannon he is the check down king..
Colt will get a start before the season is over.
Put that in writing.
Only if Weeden gets hurt before this Sunday, or gets hurt before the final game at Pitt. Otherwise Colt will NEVER see the field
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Ha ha, Colt is not going to start, unless as stated Weeden gets hurt. Colt is not an NFL QB in my opinion. He looks terrible. We need to hope Weeden improves or perhaps get someone in free agency.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
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alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
Bullshit. Jauron was clueless after the 'Skins made adjustments and started rolling Cousins out.
So who you gonna blame the turnovers on Mik? Shurmur? Those were both piss-poor decisions and lousy passes on Weeden. Cost us 14 points right there.
Those were two evenly matched teams. Shanahan sent Shure-loss back to coaching school.
Bullshit. Jauron was clueless after the 'Skins made adjustments and started rolling Cousins out.
So who you gonna blame the turnovers on Mik? Shurmur? Those were both piss-poor decisions and lousy passes on Weeden. Cost us 14 points right there.
Those were two evenly matched teams. Shanahan sent Shure-loss back to coaching school.
Those roll outs were killing us, and he did them perfectly, even fooling the cameraman. I would also trade Weeden and Colt for Cousins.
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Ha ha, Colt is not going to start, unless as stated Weeden gets hurt. Colt is not an NFL QB in my opinion. He looks terrible. We need to hope Weeden improves or perhaps get someone in free agency.
Ha ha, Colt is not going to start, unless as stated Weeden gets hurt. Colt is not an NFL QB in my opinion. He looks terrible. We need to hope Weeden improves or perhaps get someone in free agency.
No good QB's available in Free Agency this off season. We are stuck with hoping a new coach can make Weeden better. (which is what I am hoping for)
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
You have a ton of posts this year about how AP isn't doing shit.
Regarding Richardson, he DID break Jim Brown's rookie TD record, so as I told you, JBs records WILL fall to this kid.
Meanwhile, your favorite pick, fats-ass, slow-footed Joe THomas got his ass handed to him, and for how great he is, funny how the Browns can't run to his side.
Richardson also broke another JB record, he has gone 14 games so far without being charged with rape.
Don't seem to remember saying AP sucked- do remember saying it's a passing league and the RB position is minimized. Peterson's projected 2,000 yards MIGHT get the Vikes into the playoffs.
Oh and Richardson broke JBs rookie TD and rushing records? So what? Brown did that in 12 games, It took Richardson 14. When Trent runs for 2,000 yards next year- which is what Brown's year 2- 1,500 yards projects out to over a 16 game season, get back to me.
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alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
I will say this: in the last 3 games the Browns won they only scored 20-21 points. (and they even had several turnovers in each of those games).
I put this one on being a bad day for the defense and Jauron compared to how this defense performed lately. Plain and simple: this is the one in 4 games where the defense sucked. They did it versus the Giants. They did it in the last part of the Cowboys game.
The question is how will they perform vs. the Broncos and Steelers.
I think they are in trouble vs. the Broncos who may be the most complete team in the NFL. Passing/rushing/defense.
The Steelers? Not so much.
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If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
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alright i might get killed for this BUT i don't put this on weeds or shurmur.
we were just out-played at every position by a team that is more talented than us. going into the game on paper there is no denying that the redskins (on paper) have MUCH more talent than us. shanahan/skins FO choosing cousins now looks brilliant, four year starter at one of the best schools in NCAA. they up and down kicked our ass.
i am still confident that we are a good team getting a lot better. weeds can't turn the ball over and although brown played above his head in the last couple of weeks...today he looked old. the defense and turnovers were the resonse we lost this game. not the coach.
I will say this: in the last 3 games the Browns won they only scored 20-21 points. (and they even had several turnovers in each of those games).
I put this one on being a bad day for the defense and Jauron compared to how this defense performed lately. Plain and simple: this is the one in 4 games where the defense sucked. They did it versus the Giants. They did it in the last part of the Cowboys game.
The question is how will they perform vs. the Broncos and Steelers.
I think they are in trouble vs. the Broncos who may be the most complete team in the NFL. Passing/rushing/defense.
The Steelers? Not so much.
I will say this: in the last 3 games the Browns won they only scored 20-21 points. (and they even had several turnovers in each of those games).
I put this one on being a bad day for the defense and Jauron compared to how this defense performed lately. Plain and simple: this is the one in 4 games where the defense sucked. They did it versus the Giants. They did it in the last part of the Cowboys game.
The question is how will they perform vs. the Broncos and Steelers.
I think they are in trouble vs. the Broncos who may be the most complete team in the NFL. Passing/rushing/defense.
The Steelers? Not so much.
They scored 30 vs KC
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If you can't run the bal you can't pass the ball.i'm not a weeden praiser by any means but we can't run the ball for $hit.11 run for 28 yards sucks bad,barely over 2 yards a carry.i can't understand why everyone is hugging his nut when he hardly ever does anything.if the other teams knoe we have to theow the ball damn near 40 times or more they can sit back and wait for passes,Hell they should run weeden more often he had the best average today.
I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
But if you ask a lot of posters on this forum somehow that's Richardson's fault.
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I don't know if the Browns CAN'T run the ball. I do know that it seems like they WON'T run the ball.
They have a 14-10 halftime lead....then run TR twice the entire second half?
That just shows that Shurmur is in love with himself and the (piss poor) passing plays that he devises.
But if you ask a lot of posters on this forum somehow that's Richardson's fault.
But if you ask a lot of posters on this forum somehow that's Richardson's fault.
The 2 yards per carry is in majority, his fault.
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The 2 yards per carry is in majority, his fault.
I challenge anyone who thinks this way to watch the rewind of his carries like I have and tell me what he could have done differently. I'm not even saying I disagree with you totally, but there has to be some give and take. I'm excited to see what the guy can do in space because let's face it he doesn't hardly get a chance for that now. If he's still putting up those numbers in a functional offense, then I'm right there with you.
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