Nfl Rumors: Banner To “Clean House” As Soon As Season Ends
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Tebow was pushed on McDaniels by Urban Meyer, who was doing the work Florida/Tebow family wanted him to setup Tebow for life. This imo was the final straw for Meyer, he couldn't play that game anymore and he screwed over Josh McDaniels in the process.
This is where Josh was just to young. He let the influences of the "home team" influence his decisions and not for the better. Tebow was not a pro-form guy no matter how pretty his vertical ball was. As Belicheck said upon Josh's return, you control the ear, the ear do not control you.
Lordy though, we don't have a guy that would like to play in Josh's vertical spread offense..........nope, nobody on this roster..........
Isn't that more or less exactly what Weeden played in at Oklahoma St.?
Isn't that more or less exactly what Weeden played in at Oklahoma St.?
I hope he was being facetious. Travis Benjamin and Josh Gordon fit just fine in a vertical offense.
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Mcdaniels was horrible at drafting when he had the power in Denver. No way do i want him drafting our players. As a head coach i do like him but he needs a solid GM to work with and that GM is not Lombardi. Id say the best scenario is to Mcdaniels calling the plays and the head coach ala Sean Payton and Heckert staying on as GM with power of the roster. Below is Mcdaniels drafts in 09 10. If you compare it to Heckerts two drafts its not even close.
2009 Draft:
1/12 Knowshon Moreno
1/18 Robert Ayers
2/37 Alphonso Smith
2/48 Darcel McBath
2/64 Richard Quinn
4/114 David Bruton
4/132 Seth Olsen
5/141 Kenny McKinley
6/174 Brandstater
7/225 Blake Schlueter
2010 Draft:
1/22 Demaryius Thomas
1/25 Tim Tebow
2/45 Zane Beadles
3/80 J.D. Walton
3/87 Eric Decker
5/187 Perrish Cox
6/183 Eric Olsen
7/225 Syd'Quan Thompson
7/232 Jammie Kirlew
Clearly, Banner will have a GM in place and the coach will not be overseeing the draft.
That said ... I'm seeing lots of names that are starters for the 12-3 Broncos.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
Clearly, Banner will have a GM in place and the coach will not be overseeing the draft.
That said ... I'm seeing lots of names that are starters for the 12-3 Broncos.
Zombo
Including Mike Adams, who wasn't good enough for the Browns.
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Why hasn't Gruden's name come up as new coach of the Browns?
IIRC, the new Browns owner is a big Tennessee booster and reportedly offered Gruden a piece of the Browns if he accepted the HC position at TN.
Why not bring him in to be the new coach?
My choice for a 'left field' selection.
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Why hasn't Gruden's name come up as new coach of the Browns?
IIRC, the new Browns owner is a big Tennessee booster and reportedly offered Gruden a piece of the Browns if he accepted the HC position at TN.
Why not bring him in to be the new coach?
My choice for a 'left field' selection.
Why hasn't Gruden's name come up as new coach of the Browns?
the guy is making millions of dollars behind the mike. just like every other fraud. stay in the cushy job, talk shit, look like you've been on a month long crack binge......but who gives a shit?
that tells you right there that the guy would rather be mister mysterious 'chucky' than put his rep on the line and come back and coach a team that might 'taint' his already questionable record. how's all his QB sit-downs doing? all these guys are gonna be all pros..blah blah blah.
fuck that POS.
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Unfortunately for us Browns fans this cycle seems unbreakable!
We will forever be in clean house and rebuild mode!
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I see Andy Reid going to San Diego and taking Shurmur, Childress and Heckert with him.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I see Andy Reid going to San Diego and taking Shurmur, Childress and Heckert with him.
Zombo
I hope you are right. Then I would likely be able to laugh at San Diego for many years to come. I enjoy laughing at Spanos.
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I see Andy Reid going to San Diego and taking Shurmur, Childress and Heckert with him.
Zombo
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report on espn.com this morning says that "the Browns are looking for a frest start". According to the article that rules out people like McDaniels. We are expected to make a "huge run" at Chip Kelley and Bill O'Brien, or search for a "bright, young NFL mind."
If that is all to be believed, that rules out McDaniels and probably also Gruden and Cowher (not that I thought either of them were really options.) It will be an interesting few days after we beat Pittspuke today.
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Bill OBrien did a heck of a job at Penn St this year. As for Chip Kelly, we would be looking for a QB again. I wouldn't want anyone on this roster running his offense, Mccoy sucks, Weeden isn't fast enough and "The Champ" well who knows about him.
For a bright young mind in the NFL. I think you have to look at guys like Mccoy in Denver, Jay Gruden in Cincy, Ray Horton in Arizona or Gus Bradley in Seattle.
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Bill OBrien did a heck of a job at Penn St this year. As for Chip Kelly, we would be looking for a QB again. I wouldn't want anyone on this roster running his offense, Mccoy sucks, Weeden isn't fast enough and "The Champ" well who knows about him.
For a bright young mind in the NFL. I think you have to look at guys like Mccoy in Denver, Jay Gruden in Cincy, Ray Horton in Arizona or Gus Bradley in Seattle.
For a bright young mind in the NFL. I think you have to look at guys like Mccoy in Denver, Jay Gruden in Cincy, Ray Horton in Arizona or Gus Bradley in Seattle.
I would add Kyle Shanahan to that list as well. Haslam had to have been impressed by the game plan Washington put together and the adjustments they made to make Kirk Cousins look like Tom Brady with 4 days to prepare.
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Do you really think Cousins is that much better than Weeden or was he just put in a better position to use what he does well? I don't think there's much difference between the two guys, I just think one has a coach and coaching stafff who knows how to get the players in the best position to win and to use the players strengths and one coach who is forcing his system on the players and refuses to adjust. Shurmer did it with McCoy last year and did it with Weeden this year.
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report on espn.com this morning says that "the Browns are looking for a frest start". According to the article that rules out people like McDaniels. We are expected to make a "huge run" at Chip Kelley and Bill O'Brien, or search for a "bright, young NFL mind."
If that is all to be believed, that rules out McDaniels and probably also Gruden and Cowher (not that I thought either of them were really options.) It will be an interesting few days after we beat Pittspuke today.
report on espn.com this morning says that "the Browns are looking for a frest start". According to the article that rules out people like McDaniels. We are expected to make a "huge run" at Chip Kelley and Bill O'Brien, or search for a "bright, young NFL mind."
If that is all to be believed, that rules out McDaniels and probably also Gruden and Cowher (not that I thought either of them were really options.) It will be an interesting few days after we beat Pittspuke today.
Only a couple of years ago, McDaniels was the "bright, young NFL mind". It's amazing how that changes after a couple of shitty seasons in Denver and St. Louis.
I think McDaniels could be The Hoodie v.2.0, except offensively. He's very offensive minded and an innovator, yet he lacks people skills and wants to do things his own way. His first head coaching stint sucked major ass so he took a step back and I think he's ready to try it again.
I'm tired of passive aggressive coaches and players. I want swagger, damn it.
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report on espn.com this morning says that "the Browns are looking for a frest start". According to the article that rules out people like McDaniels. We are expected to make a "huge run" at Chip Kelley and Bill O'Brien, or search for a "bright, young NFL mind."
If that is all to be believed, that rules out McDaniels and probably also Gruden and Cowher (not that I thought either of them were really options.) It will be an interesting few days after we beat Pittspuke today.
Only a couple of years ago, McDaniels was the "bright, young NFL mind". It's amazing how that changes after a couple of shitty seasons in Denver and St. Louis.
I think McDaniels could be The Hoodie v.2.0, except offensively. He's very offensive minded and an innovator, yet he lacks people skills and wants to do things his own way. His first head coaching stint sucked major ass so he took a step back and I think he's ready to try it again.
I'm tired of passive aggressive coaches and players. I want swagger, damn it.
I'm tired of passive aggressive coaches and players. I want swagger, damn it.
I agree...but I don't know who of the other "young, bright minds" might also have some swagger to them.
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If you want swagger Chip Kelly is the way to go. But he has zero NFL experience. And he never gives up in a game, even if he is up by 50. He will keep trying to score
If you want swagger Chip Kelly is the way to go. But he has zero NFL experience. And he never gives up in a game, even if he is up by 50. He will keep trying to score
Good. Right now we have a guy that always gives up in a game. Even if he is up by one with three quarters left to go. He'll stop trying to score.
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