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  • Soju SojuS
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    SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
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    you need BOTH offense and defense to win. If you have a defense as bad as your offense is good, you are going to go point for point with your opponent and go to overtime. You need a decent defense (but I agree with you) and a better offense to win.

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      @tampadawgs said:

      The NFL has changed over the years, The NFL is about Offense now, but that was not the case 10 years ago. You sound like an Asshole when you start a thread like this. Its funny how everyone on here is a Browns fan, but some of you are the guy that you do not want to sit by during a game.....Every team has those guys and just by your post your that guy

      I agree. Since joining this site I have just really been amazed at how many Browns fans are assholes...

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @mld-woody said:

      I agree. Since joining this site I have just really been amazed at how many Browns fans are assholes...

      Welcome to the real world grasshopper.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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        And the 49ers 3 1st round offensive linemen didn't lead them to a win yesterday? ? Just sayin...

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        • rich4eagleR rich4eagle

          For the first 35 years the Browns focused on what wins, OFFENSE. Then we invented this dumbaassed Dawg Pound crap and began a 22 year losing streak. Time after time we hired a defensive genius and focused on winning in the trenches and defense wins championships. We drafted fat ass dumb D line guys and useless LB's with one picks not to mention a bevy of OL guys who lead us nowhere

          Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen

          Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........

          and now we have an owner who gets it despite stupid fans stupid coaches and dimwit philosophies

          Offensive skill players who touch the ball are the key to winning vastly so for the QB

          The Browns will rise again and soon

          Meanwhile the detractors can piss on what it is but it is what it is..........again over and over

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          B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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          @rich4eagle said:

          For the first 35 years the Browns focused on what wins, OFFENSE. Then we invented this dumbaassed Dawg Pound crap and began a 22 year losing streak. Time after time we hired a defensive genius and focused on winning in the trenches and defense wins championships. We drafted fat ass dumb D line guys and useless LB's with one picks not to mention a bevy of OL guys who lead us nowhere

          Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen

          Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........

          and now we have an owner who gets it despite stupid fans stupid coaches and dimwit philosophies

          Offensive skill players who touch the ball are the key to winning vastly so for the QB

          The Browns will rise again and soon

          Meanwhile the detractors can piss on what it is but it is what it is..........again over and over

          And everyone on this board has repeatedly refuted this same erroneous argument you love to post 20 times a year. One more example just for fun: The 49ers sure have dime a dozen offensive lineman too don't they? Three of their starting 5 OL were drafted in the 1st round. Not to mention every playoff team left has a solid defense outside the Falcons.

          But please copy and paste the same argument over and over while throwing in as many ellipses as you possibly can. It's hilarious................. It truly is...................

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          • tampadawgsT tampadawgs

            The NFL has changed over the years, The NFL is about Offense now, but that was not the case 10 years ago. You sound like an Asshole when you start a thread like this. Its funny how everyone on here is a Browns fan, but some of you are the guy that you do not want to sit by during a game.....Every team has those guys and just by your post your that guy

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            rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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            @tampadawgs said:

            The NFL has changed over the years, The NFL is about Offense now, but that was not the case 10 years ago. You sound like an Asshole when you start a thread like this. Its funny how everyone on here is a Browns fan, but some of you are the guy that you do not want to sit by during a game.....Every team has those guys and just by your post your that guy

            Thanks for getting on board 50 years late

            Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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              rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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              @feartheroo said:

              thanks for what you are useless

              Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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              • hish747H hish747

                "Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen"

                OMG seriously!? Ugh! Why is nobody listening to you!

                "Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........"

                Oh yes, that is funny.

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                rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                @hish747 said:

                "Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen"

                OMG seriously!? Ugh! Why is nobody listening to you!

                "Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........"

                Oh yes, that is funny.

                and again you prove you are an asshole devoid of history because Offense wins championships has been my mantra before this board was ever created............but do keep your head up your ass in a void

                Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                  @rich4eagle said:

                  For the first 35 years the Browns focused on what wins, OFFENSE. Then we invented this dumbaassed Dawg Pound crap and began a 22 year losing streak. Time after time we hired a defensive genius and focused on winning in the trenches and defense wins championships. We drafted fat ass dumb D line guys and useless LB's with one picks not to mention a bevy of OL guys who lead us nowhere

                  Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen

                  Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........

                  and now we have an owner who gets it despite stupid fans stupid coaches and dimwit philosophies

                  Offensive skill players who touch the ball are the key to winning vastly so for the QB

                  The Browns will rise again and soon

                  Meanwhile the detractors can piss on what it is but it is what it is..........again over and over

                  And everyone on this board has repeatedly refuted this same erroneous argument you love to post 20 times a year. One more example just for fun: The 49ers sure have dime a dozen offensive lineman too don't they? Three of their starting 5 OL were drafted in the 1st round. Not to mention every playoff team left has a solid defense outside the Falcons.

                  But please copy and paste the same argument over and over while throwing in as many ellipses as you possibly can. It's hilarious................. It truly is...................

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                  rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                  @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                  And everyone on this board has repeatedly refuted this same erroneous argument you love to post 20 times a year. One more example just for fun: The 49ers sure have dime a dozen offensive lineman too don't they? Three of their starting 5 OL were drafted in the 1st round. Not to mention every playoff team left has a solid defense outside the Falcons.

                  But please copy and paste the same argument over and over while throwing in as many ellipses as you possibly can. It's hilarious................. It truly is...................

                  Koilin Kaepernick......maybe someday you will get it

                  Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                  • rich4eagleR rich4eagle

                    @hish747 said:

                    "Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen"

                    OMG seriously!? Ugh! Why is nobody listening to you!

                    "Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........"

                    Oh yes, that is funny.

                    and again you prove you are an asshole devoid of history because Offense wins championships has been my mantra before this board was ever created............but do keep your head up your ass in a void

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                    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                    @rich4eagle said:

                    and again you prove you are an asshole devoid of history because Offense wins championships has been my mantra before this board was ever created............but do keep your head up your ass in a void

                    There's exceptions to the Rule Rich, like the '85 Bears and the '00 Ravens. Incidentally- the Ravens starting LT in the SB was a high first round pick, so please can the OL are dime a dozen argument. Sure- every GM and player personnel guy in the NFL should be fired for drafting these guys high. In more recent history, two of the Giant's Lombardi's are due to the fact their defense was good enough to keep Tom Brady in check.

                    Yup, want to be good for a long time- just find yourself another Brady or Montana.

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                    • rich4eagleR rich4eagle

                      @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                      And everyone on this board has repeatedly refuted this same erroneous argument you love to post 20 times a year. One more example just for fun: The 49ers sure have dime a dozen offensive lineman too don't they? Three of their starting 5 OL were drafted in the 1st round. Not to mention every playoff team left has a solid defense outside the Falcons.

                      But please copy and paste the same argument over and over while throwing in as many ellipses as you possibly can. It's hilarious................. It truly is...................

                      Koilin Kaepernick......maybe someday you will get it

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                      B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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                      @rich4eagle said:

                      Koilin Kaepernick......maybe someday you will get it

                      Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        once an ass always an ass.

                        yeah teams put up big #'s this weekend. so you have to have an offensive line to give your guy time to throw or to open up lanes for the running game.

                        and even if you have all that then you need a defensive line to stuff the other team's run game or their secondary to shut them down.......

                        don't get it. what do you want, 8 receivers 2 rbs and a QB every play you flippin asshole.

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                          @rich4eagle said:

                          Koilin Kaepernick......maybe someday you will get it

                          Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                          Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?

                          the rich and ghoolie suckfest continues. they will defend each other until the bitter end, and i mean bitter END as in who takes it up the azz first.

                          this argument is just plain fucking dumb and yes rich or ghoolie throws it on the board every 3 or 4 weeks just to get everyone's blood boiling.

                          reatards.

                          let me see. i don't think i've ever heard a quote from a coaching genius stating 'oooooh. offenses win championships!!" GTFO. the quote that is instilled in everyone's mind is: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

                          of course you need an offense. duh. did you football geniuses watch any of the BCS championship game? uh let's take a look at the size and quality of play from alabama's OL and DL compared to notre dames. i heard plenty of "alabama's stout, huge oveer-powering OL is dominating.....the DL for alabama are dominating.."

                          you 2 are beyond belief. just plain stooooopid.

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                          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                            @tampadawgs said:

                            The NFL has changed over the years, The NFL is about Offense now, but that was not the case 10 years ago. You sound like an Asshole when you start a thread like this. Its funny how everyone on here is a Browns fan, but some of you are the guy that you do not want to sit by during a game.....Every team has those guys and just by your post your that guy

                            I agree. Since joining this site I have just really been amazed at how many Browns fans are assholes...

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            I agree. Since joining this site I have just really been amazed at how many Browns fans are assholes...

                            Your membership swelled those numbers.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              Honestly....I don't care if it is offense or defense that wins championships.

                              I only care if we win championships.

                              And I don't care if it is done via the '85 Bears/2000 Ravens/2005 Steelers method of monster defenses

                              ...or if it is done 1999 Rams/2010 Packers style of track meet offense

                              ...or if it done the usual way of both powerful offense and powerful defense....like the Browns/Packers/Steelers/49ers/Cowboys/Patriots dynasties were put together.

                              I guess I like the Al Davis method: Just Win, Baby

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                                @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                                Belichik is NOT a defensive coach.

                                OK.

                                Zombo

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  Belichik is NOT a defensive coach.

                                  OK.

                                  Zombo

                                  Yes, OK, sure. He is a HEAD coach. Every head coach in my view should be neither an offensive or defensive coach, but should have capabilities in both arenas.

                                  Bill Belichick WAS a defensive coach....a defensive coordinator.

                                  But yes, every defensive coach should know enough about offense to stop it....and every offensive coordinator should know enough about defense to defeat it...so when a guy becomes a HC he should have knowledge of both.

                                  I can tell you that when BB first came here he was by NO means competent at running an offense. He was terrible in fact.

                                  But I will say that he has learned, and certainly is now a "balanced" coach that puts his time in being the CEO of his team by having his thumb in all aspects of it, offens/defense/special teams.

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                                    Yeah and for some reason those defensive coaches keep winning superbowls, Coughlin, Belichick, Tomlin. You need to be good a both.

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                                    rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                                    @runyon27 said:

                                    Yeah and for some reason those defensive coaches keep winning superbowls, Coughlin, Belichick, Tomlin. You need to be good a both.

                                    Yeah defensive coaches, that is funny like Belichick with the most prolific offense in football for a decade and Coughlin who needed Eli to make two miracle throws to win two championships and OH YEAH Tomlin who won shit except for Ben's Miracle one minute 95 yard drive

                                    your post is hilarious and humorous and of course stupid,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if you cannot see the obvious,,,,,,,,,,,go with the Dawg Pound and OL guys and lose for twenty more years

                                    Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                                      once an ass always an ass.

                                      yeah teams put up big #'s this weekend. so you have to have an offensive line to give your guy time to throw or to open up lanes for the running game.

                                      and even if you have all that then you need a defensive line to stuff the other team's run game or their secondary to shut them down.......

                                      don't get it. what do you want, 8 receivers 2 rbs and a QB every play you flippin asshole.

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                                      rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                                      @miktoxic said:

                                      once an ass always an ass.

                                      yeah teams put up big #'s this weekend. so you have to have an offensive line to give your guy time to throw or to open up lanes for the running game.

                                      and even if you have all that then you need a defensive line to stuff the other team's run game or their secondary to shut them down.......

                                      don't get it. what do you want, 8 receivers 2 rbs and a QB every play you flippin asshole.

                                      You remain a football idiot and it remains here in Brownstown we have the dumbest fans in football, represented by you

                                      too bad I get it always have and what we have here now in browns fandom is a "failure to understand reality"

                                      Jimmy Haslem will fix your total stupidity and you will get amnesia about it

                                      get lost punk and stay stupid

                                      Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                                        @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                                        Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?

                                        the rich and ghoolie suckfest continues. they will defend each other until the bitter end, and i mean bitter END as in who takes it up the azz first.

                                        this argument is just plain fucking dumb and yes rich or ghoolie throws it on the board every 3 or 4 weeks just to get everyone's blood boiling.

                                        reatards.

                                        let me see. i don't think i've ever heard a quote from a coaching genius stating 'oooooh. offenses win championships!!" GTFO. the quote that is instilled in everyone's mind is: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

                                        of course you need an offense. duh. did you football geniuses watch any of the BCS championship game? uh let's take a look at the size and quality of play from alabama's OL and DL compared to notre dames. i heard plenty of "alabama's stout, huge oveer-powering OL is dominating.....the DL for alabama are dominating.."

                                        you 2 are beyond belief. just plain stooooopid.

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                                        rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                                        @miktoxic said:

                                        the rich and ghoolie suckfest continues. they will defend each other until the bitter end, and i mean bitter END as in who takes it up the azz first.

                                        this argument is just plain fucking dumb and yes rich or ghoolie throws it on the board every 3 or 4 weeks just to get everyone's blood boiling.

                                        reatards.

                                        let me see. i don't think i've ever heard a quote from a coaching genius stating 'oooooh. offenses win championships!!" GTFO. the quote that is instilled in everyone's mind is: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

                                        of course you need an offense. duh. did you football geniuses watch any of the BCS championship game? uh let's take a look at the size and quality of play from alabama's OL and DL compared to notre dames. i heard plenty of "alabama's stout, huge oveer-powering OL is dominating.....the DL for alabama are dominating.."

                                        you 2 are beyond belief. just plain stooooopid.

                                        we where around when winning was the staple and got the formula,,,,,,,,,,,,and here you are defending losing,,,,,,,,,,too fyckubg funny loser keep blowing loser smoke out your loser ass

                                        Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                                          @rich4eagle said:

                                          and again you prove you are an asshole devoid of history because Offense wins championships has been my mantra before this board was ever created............but do keep your head up your ass in a void

                                          There's exceptions to the Rule Rich, like the '85 Bears and the '00 Ravens. Incidentally- the Ravens starting LT in the SB was a high first round pick, so please can the OL are dime a dozen argument. Sure- every GM and player personnel guy in the NFL should be fired for drafting these guys high. In more recent history, two of the Giant's Lombardi's are due to the fact their defense was good enough to keep Tom Brady in check.

                                          Yup, want to be good for a long time- just find yourself another Brady or Montana.

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                                          rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          There's exceptions to the Rule Rich, like the '85 Bears and the '00 Ravens. Incidentally- the Ravens starting LT in the SB was a high first round pick, so please can the OL are dime a dozen argument. Sure- every GM and player personnel guy in the NFL should be fired for drafting these guys high. In more recent history, two of the Giant's Lombardi's are due to the fact their defense was good enough to keep Tom Brady in check.

                                          Yup, want to be good for a long time- just find yourself another Brady or Montana.

                                          Your are right Hoorta once every twenty five years defense wins championships,,,,,,,,,,we should focus on defense so maybe we can twice each 50 years

                                          Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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