Rich4Eagle Waits For The Rest To Catch Up As We Have An Owner Who Gets It
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And everyone on this board has repeatedly refuted this same erroneous argument you love to post 20 times a year. One more example just for fun: The 49ers sure have dime a dozen offensive lineman too don't they? Three of their starting 5 OL were drafted in the 1st round. Not to mention every playoff team left has a solid defense outside the Falcons.
But please copy and paste the same argument over and over while throwing in as many ellipses as you possibly can. It's hilarious................. It truly is...................
Koilin Kaepernick......maybe someday you will get it
Koilin Kaepernick......maybe someday you will get it
Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?
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once an ass always an ass.
yeah teams put up big #'s this weekend. so you have to have an offensive line to give your guy time to throw or to open up lanes for the running game.
and even if you have all that then you need a defensive line to stuff the other team's run game or their secondary to shut them down.......
don't get it. what do you want, 8 receivers 2 rbs and a QB every play you flippin asshole.
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Koilin Kaepernick......maybe someday you will get it
Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?
Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?
the rich and ghoolie suckfest continues. they will defend each other until the bitter end, and i mean bitter END as in who takes it up the azz first.
this argument is just plain fucking dumb and yes rich or ghoolie throws it on the board every 3 or 4 weeks just to get everyone's blood boiling.
reatards.
let me see. i don't think i've ever heard a quote from a coaching genius stating 'oooooh. offenses win championships!!" GTFO. the quote that is instilled in everyone's mind is: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!
of course you need an offense. duh. did you football geniuses watch any of the BCS championship game? uh let's take a look at the size and quality of play from alabama's OL and DL compared to notre dames. i heard plenty of "alabama's stout, huge oveer-powering OL is dominating.....the DL for alabama are dominating.."
you 2 are beyond belief. just plain stooooopid.
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The NFL has changed over the years, The NFL is about Offense now, but that was not the case 10 years ago. You sound like an Asshole when you start a thread like this. Its funny how everyone on here is a Browns fan, but some of you are the guy that you do not want to sit by during a game.....Every team has those guys and just by your post your that guy
I agree. Since joining this site I have just really been amazed at how many Browns fans are assholes...
I agree. Since joining this site I have just really been amazed at how many Browns fans are assholes...
Your membership swelled those numbers.
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Honestly....I don't care if it is offense or defense that wins championships.
I only care if we win championships.
And I don't care if it is done via the '85 Bears/2000 Ravens/2005 Steelers method of monster defenses
...or if it is done 1999 Rams/2010 Packers style of track meet offense
...or if it done the usual way of both powerful offense and powerful defense....like the Browns/Packers/Steelers/49ers/Cowboys/Patriots dynasties were put together.
I guess I like the Al Davis method: Just Win, Baby
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Belichik is NOT a defensive coach.
OK.
Zombo
Yes, OK, sure. He is a HEAD coach. Every head coach in my view should be neither an offensive or defensive coach, but should have capabilities in both arenas.
Bill Belichick WAS a defensive coach....a defensive coordinator.
But yes, every defensive coach should know enough about offense to stop it....and every offensive coordinator should know enough about defense to defeat it...so when a guy becomes a HC he should have knowledge of both.
I can tell you that when BB first came here he was by NO means competent at running an offense. He was terrible in fact.
But I will say that he has learned, and certainly is now a "balanced" coach that puts his time in being the CEO of his team by having his thumb in all aspects of it, offens/defense/special teams.
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Yeah and for some reason those defensive coaches keep winning superbowls, Coughlin, Belichick, Tomlin. You need to be good a both.
Yeah and for some reason those defensive coaches keep winning superbowls, Coughlin, Belichick, Tomlin. You need to be good a both.
Yeah defensive coaches, that is funny like Belichick with the most prolific offense in football for a decade and Coughlin who needed Eli to make two miracle throws to win two championships and OH YEAH Tomlin who won shit except for Ben's Miracle one minute 95 yard drive
your post is hilarious and humorous and of course stupid,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if you cannot see the obvious,,,,,,,,,,,go with the Dawg Pound and OL guys and lose for twenty more years
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
once an ass always an ass.
yeah teams put up big #'s this weekend. so you have to have an offensive line to give your guy time to throw or to open up lanes for the running game.
and even if you have all that then you need a defensive line to stuff the other team's run game or their secondary to shut them down.......
don't get it. what do you want, 8 receivers 2 rbs and a QB every play you flippin asshole.
once an ass always an ass.
yeah teams put up big #'s this weekend. so you have to have an offensive line to give your guy time to throw or to open up lanes for the running game.
and even if you have all that then you need a defensive line to stuff the other team's run game or their secondary to shut them down.......
don't get it. what do you want, 8 receivers 2 rbs and a QB every play you flippin asshole.
You remain a football idiot and it remains here in Brownstown we have the dumbest fans in football, represented by you
too bad I get it always have and what we have here now in browns fandom is a "failure to understand reality"
Jimmy Haslem will fix your total stupidity and you will get amnesia about it
get lost punk and stay stupid
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Yes because Kaepernick is so awesome that 5 fat ass ghoolie clones could have blocked for him, right? Just because you can only repeat the names of players the media drools over doesn't mean other great players don't exist. Try to think outside the box sometime, ok?
the rich and ghoolie suckfest continues. they will defend each other until the bitter end, and i mean bitter END as in who takes it up the azz first.
this argument is just plain fucking dumb and yes rich or ghoolie throws it on the board every 3 or 4 weeks just to get everyone's blood boiling.
reatards.
let me see. i don't think i've ever heard a quote from a coaching genius stating 'oooooh. offenses win championships!!" GTFO. the quote that is instilled in everyone's mind is: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!
of course you need an offense. duh. did you football geniuses watch any of the BCS championship game? uh let's take a look at the size and quality of play from alabama's OL and DL compared to notre dames. i heard plenty of "alabama's stout, huge oveer-powering OL is dominating.....the DL for alabama are dominating.."
you 2 are beyond belief. just plain stooooopid.
the rich and ghoolie suckfest continues. they will defend each other until the bitter end, and i mean bitter END as in who takes it up the azz first.
this argument is just plain fucking dumb and yes rich or ghoolie throws it on the board every 3 or 4 weeks just to get everyone's blood boiling.
reatards.
let me see. i don't think i've ever heard a quote from a coaching genius stating 'oooooh. offenses win championships!!" GTFO. the quote that is instilled in everyone's mind is: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!
of course you need an offense. duh. did you football geniuses watch any of the BCS championship game? uh let's take a look at the size and quality of play from alabama's OL and DL compared to notre dames. i heard plenty of "alabama's stout, huge oveer-powering OL is dominating.....the DL for alabama are dominating.."
you 2 are beyond belief. just plain stooooopid.
we where around when winning was the staple and got the formula,,,,,,,,,,,,and here you are defending losing,,,,,,,,,,too fyckubg funny loser keep blowing loser smoke out your loser ass
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and again you prove you are an asshole devoid of history because Offense wins championships has been my mantra before this board was ever created............but do keep your head up your ass in a void
There's exceptions to the Rule Rich, like the '85 Bears and the '00 Ravens. Incidentally- the Ravens starting LT in the SB was a high first round pick, so please can the OL are dime a dozen argument. Sure- every GM and player personnel guy in the NFL should be fired for drafting these guys high. In more recent history, two of the Giant's Lombardi's are due to the fact their defense was good enough to keep Tom Brady in check.
Yup, want to be good for a long time- just find yourself another Brady or Montana.
There's exceptions to the Rule Rich, like the '85 Bears and the '00 Ravens. Incidentally- the Ravens starting LT in the SB was a high first round pick, so please can the OL are dime a dozen argument. Sure- every GM and player personnel guy in the NFL should be fired for drafting these guys high. In more recent history, two of the Giant's Lombardi's are due to the fact their defense was good enough to keep Tom Brady in check.
Yup, want to be good for a long time- just find yourself another Brady or Montana.
Your are right Hoorta once every twenty five years defense wins championships,,,,,,,,,,we should focus on defense so maybe we can twice each 50 years
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Honestly....I don't care if it is offense or defense that wins championships.
I only care if we win championships.
And I don't care if it is done via the '85 Bears/2000 Ravens/2005 Steelers method of monster defenses
...or if it is done 1999 Rams/2010 Packers style of track meet offense
...or if it done the usual way of both powerful offense and powerful defense....like the Browns/Packers/Steelers/49ers/Cowboys/Patriots dynasties were put together.
I guess I like the Al Davis method: Just Win, Baby
Honestly....I don't care if it is offense or defense that wins championships.
I only care if we win championships.
And I don't care if it is done via the '85 Bears/2000 Ravens/2005 Steelers method of monster defenses
...or if it is done 1999 Rams/2010 Packers style of track meet offense
...or if it done the usual way of both powerful offense and powerful defense....like the Browns/Packers/Steelers/49ers/Cowboys/Patriots dynasties were put together.
I guess I like the Al Davis method: Just Win, Baby
Bottom line buddy is Super Bowl champs score 31 points and that number is going up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so it is offense that wins championships or be a loser defending losers who think otherwise and OL guys are a dime a dozen
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
For the first 35 years the Browns focused on what wins, OFFENSE. Then we invented this dumbaassed Dawg Pound crap and began a 22 year losing streak. Time after time we hired a defensive genius and focused on winning in the trenches and defense wins championships. We drafted fat ass dumb D line guys and useless LB's with one picks not to mention a bevy of OL guys who lead us nowhere
Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen
Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........
and now we have an owner who gets it despite stupid fans stupid coaches and dimwit philosophies
Offensive skill players who touch the ball are the key to winning vastly so for the QB
The Browns will rise again and soon
Meanwhile the detractors can piss on what it is but it is what it is..........again over and over
For the first 35 years the Browns focused on what wins, OFFENSE. Then we invented this dumbaassed Dawg Pound crap and began a 22 year losing streak. Time after time we hired a defensive genius and focused on winning in the trenches and defense wins championships. We drafted fat ass dumb D line guys and useless LB's with one picks not to mention a bevy of OL guys who lead us nowhere
Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen
Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........
and now we have an owner who gets it despite stupid fans stupid coaches and dimwit philosophies
Offensive skill players who touch the ball are the key to winning vastly so for the QB
The Browns will rise again and soon
Meanwhile the detractors can piss on what it is but it is what it is..........again over and over
archive this post it will be sage wisdom
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For the first 35 years the Browns focused on what wins, OFFENSE. Then we invented this dumbaassed Dawg Pound crap and began a 22 year losing streak. Time after time we hired a defensive genius and focused on winning in the trenches and defense wins championships. We drafted fat ass dumb D line guys and useless LB's with one picks not to mention a bevy of OL guys who lead us nowhere
Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen
Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........
and now we have an owner who gets it despite stupid fans stupid coaches and dimwit philosophies
Offensive skill players who touch the ball are the key to winning vastly so for the QB
The Browns will rise again and soon
Meanwhile the detractors can piss on what it is but it is what it is..........again over and over
if this were true. the eagles shouldn't have lost a game this year. play makers at every offensive position and not one notible ( dime a dozen) lineman. wonder who they take before the browns?For the first 35 years the Browns focused on what wins, OFFENSE. Then we invented this dumbaassed Dawg Pound crap and began a 22 year losing streak. Time after time we hired a defensive genius and focused on winning in the trenches and defense wins championships. We drafted fat ass dumb D line guys and useless LB's with one picks not to mention a bevy of OL guys who lead us nowhere
Meanwhile I repeated over and over Offense wins championships with numbers only to be pissed on by fools, and that OL guys are a dime a dozen
Funny how my wisdom is proving greater daily........
and now we have an owner who gets it despite stupid fans stupid coaches and dimwit philosophies
Offensive skill players who touch the ball are the key to winning vastly so for the QB
The Browns will rise again and soon
Meanwhile the detractors can piss on what it is but it is what it is..........again over and over
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Honestly....I don't care if it is offense or defense that wins championships.
I only care if we win championships.
And I don't care if it is done via the '85 Bears/2000 Ravens/2005 Steelers method of monster defenses
...or if it is done 1999 Rams/2010 Packers style of track meet offense
...or if it done the usual way of both powerful offense and powerful defense....like the Browns/Packers/Steelers/49ers/Cowboys/Patriots dynasties were put together.
I guess I like the Al Davis method: Just Win, Baby
Bottom line buddy is Super Bowl champs score 31 points and that number is going up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so it is offense that wins championships or be a loser defending losers who think otherwise and OL guys are a dime a dozen
Bottom line is Super Bowl champs score 31 points and that number is going up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so it is offense that wins championships
what a total dick.
obviously you gotta score points douchefuckingbag. but if your defense doesn't stop the other team from scoring 32 points then YOU FUCKING LOSE.
get it now dimwit??
and another thing you old fucking squirrel, nobody is a dime a dozen in the NFL. so quit spewing that out your old-knarled-one-tooth-cum-breathed-mouth.
biggest asshole at a tailgate. you should be proud of yourself.
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Bottom line is Super Bowl champs score 31 points and that number is going up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so it is offense that wins championships
what a total dick.
obviously you gotta score points douchefuckingbag. but if your defense doesn't stop the other team from scoring 32 points then YOU FUCKING LOSE.
get it now dimwit??
and another thing you old fucking squirrel, nobody is a dime a dozen in the NFL. so quit spewing that out your old-knarled-one-tooth-cum-breathed-mouth.
biggest asshole at a tailgate. you should be proud of yourself.
what a total dick.
obviously you gotta score points douchefuckingbag. but if your defense doesn't stop the other team from scoring 32 points then YOU FUCKING LOSE.
get it now dimwit??
and another thing you old fucking squirrel, nobody is a dime a dozen in the NFL. so quit spewing that out your old-knarled-one-tooth-cum-breathed-mouth.
biggest asshole at a tailgate. you should be proud of yourself.
you remain a football moron and the Browns likelly will start winning because it seems Haslem gets it, unfortunately you an asshole and stupid will never get it....... The browns pandered to idiots like you for twenty years, hopefully your dumbass days are over and then you can proclaim like the idiot you are that offense wins championships and hope all the other dumbasses like you forgot all your other dumbass statements
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
Ooohhhh I get it now.... the browns have never tried to score points.....EVER!!!!!
Instead of drafting a qb and a WR first in 99 they drafted solid linemen and defense.
13 yrs now and all we needed was one WR or a qb or maybe a rb to run thru the gapping hole produced by Ross verba and womack.
how god damn obvious it was we needed more points. cause when ur defense ranks in the bottom five every year u should just try to get in a shootout every game.
I suppose Matt kalli had nothing to do with petersons record season either.
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Yeah and for some reason those defensive coaches keep winning superbowls, Coughlin, Belichick, Tomlin. You need to be good a both.
Yeah defensive coaches, that is funny like Belichick with the most prolific offense in football for a decade and Coughlin who needed Eli to make two miracle throws to win two championships and OH YEAH Tomlin who won shit except for Ben's Miracle one minute 95 yard drive
your post is hilarious and humorous and of course stupid,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if you cannot see the obvious,,,,,,,,,,,go with the Dawg Pound and OL guys and lose for twenty more years
Yeah defensive coaches, that is funny like Belichick with the most prolific offense in football for a decade and Coughlin who needed Eli to make two miracle throws to win two championships and OH YEAH Tomlin who won shit except for Ben's Miracle one minute 95 yard drive
your post is hilarious and humorous and of course stupid,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if you cannot see the obvious,,,,,,,,,,,go with the Dawg Pound and OL guys and lose for twenty more years
Har har. Bellichick is an offensive genius because he happens to have Tom Brady on his team- a guy who we can now safely put into the "greatest of all-time" conversation.
Incidentally the Patriots won that game because their "dime a dozen" offensive line kept Brady pretty much untouched by Houston's stud defense, including defensive player of the year JJ Watt. Sure, you can find your big fat dumb o-line guys in the lowerer rounds- you find the GREAT ones there about as often as you find a GREAT RB like Arian Foster or a GREAT WR like Marquis Colston. And Rich, if you can't tell the difference between a Clady or Thomas from the stiffs, you don't know jack shit about o-line play, sorry. Speaking of- that's another reason the Pats won- their DEFENSE shut Foster down until the game was out of hand, and the Texans DEFENSE didn't have anyone that could cover Wes Welker worth a damn.
Speaking of Welker- he's not making those catches if Brady is lying on his back looking up at the sky. Adrian Peterson isn't rushing for 2,000 yards if he doesn't have stud #4 overall pick Matt Kalil opening up running lanes for him. Yes Rich Pro personnel guys get it- o-line is damn important that's why top o-line guys get drafted in the first round every freaking year. Sad to say, you'll never get it though. So just keep on repeating your mantra.
FYI Patriot's O-line.
Nate Solder- FIRST ROUND
Logan Mankins- FIRST ROUND
Sebastian Vollmer- SECOND ROUND
Yup that Bill Bellichick sure is a DUMBASS drafting all those guys so high to keep Brady healthy, Right? He should just pray he gets damn lucky (he did) finding a couple of UFAs to fill the other two spots.
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Honestly....I don't care if it is offense or defense that wins championships.
I only care if we win championships.
And I don't care if it is done via the '85 Bears/2000 Ravens/2005 Steelers method of monster defenses
...or if it is done 1999 Rams/2010 Packers style of track meet offense
...or if it done the usual way of both powerful offense and powerful defense....like the Browns/Packers/Steelers/49ers/Cowboys/Patriots dynasties were put together.
I guess I like the Al Davis method: Just Win, Baby
Bottom line buddy is Super Bowl champs score 31 points and that number is going up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so it is offense that wins championships or be a loser defending losers who think otherwise and OL guys are a dime a dozen
Bottom line buddy is Super Bowl champs score 31 points and that number is going up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so it is offense that wins championships or be a loser defending losers who think otherwise and OL guys are a dime a dozen
I hope Offensive Linemen are a dime a dozen....then maybe we can get some real good ones real cheap.
Whatever they cost...get good ones.
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