Draft Thoughts 2013
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I apologize for posting another reply instead of just adding an edit, but I'm on my tablet
Anyways, I know this does not mean much but watching this skills challenge Damontre Moore looks much more athletic than the rest of DLineman... He had decent change of direction and had a great long stride.
Another two guys who look on a different level than the competition are Cordarelle Patterson and Alec Ogletree
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I apologize for posting another reply instead of just adding an edit, but I'm on my tablet
Anyways, I know this does not mean much but watching this skills challenge Damontre Moore looks much more athletic than the rest of DLineman... He had decent change of direction and had a great long stride.
Another two guys who look on a different level than the competition are Cordarelle Patterson and Alec Ogletree
I apologize for posting another reply instead of just adding an edit, but I'm on my tablet
Anyways, I know this does not mean much but watching this skills challenge Damontre Moore looks much more athletic than the rest of DLineman... He had decent change of direction and had a great long stride.
Another two guys who look on a different level than the competition are Cordarelle Patterson and Alec Ogletree
Ogletree is a beast. He would certainly be a 1st round target via trade down IMO.
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This is my first mock on here. I will assume the Browns will trade back and the only player I see anyone trading up for is Eric Fisher. So, I have the Browns trading back with San Diego at 11. I will also assume the Browns pick up San Diego's 2nd round pick in this trade.
Round 1(11) - Chance Warmack G Alabama
Round 2(45) - Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State
Round 3(68) - Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State
Round 4(101) - Jon Bostic ILB Florida
Late Round Possibilities:
Jamie Collins OLB Southern Mississippi
Nikell Robey CB Southern California
Leon McFadden CB San Diego State
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Post your own Mock, with or without explanations as to who you would like the Browns to draft:
With the new coach bringing in an attacking offense and most likely a 3-4 attacking defense, this is who I would like the Browns to target with each of their picks. (I'm including the 7th rounder that they will likely receive from the Eagles for the Sims trade)
Round 1, Pick 6:
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
- Jones may end up going 2nd or 5th overall to the Jaguars or the Lions. But I think ultimately he will end up being available at the 6th pick. Jones will immediately step in and play opposite of Jabaal Sheard at OLB. Sheard's primary duty will be to rush the passer, while Jones will play a jack-of-all-trades position. This could be a deadly combination on third down if Sheard can make the transition.
Round 3, Pick 6:
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn
- Wreh-Wilson has the size (6-0, 190) and the athleticism (4.45) of a quality starter. Hopefully the Browns resign and try Brown at FS. Wreh-Wilson could jump in opposite of Haden and allow Skrine to strictly play nickel, where he is decent (while horrible on an island).
Round 4, Pick 7:
J.C. Tretter, OG, Cornell
- A small school prospect who is rising up boards. He started as a Tight End and has put on over 65 lbs of mass, but in the NFL he will need to get stronger. He could start out as a great pulling technician to help the run game out, while providing good pass protection.
Round 5, Pick 6:
Michael Williams, TE, Alabama
Williams has the size and experience to develop into a great blocking Tight End. He is underrated as a pass catcher, but this pick would essentially be for Double Tight sets with Cameron as the primary receiver and Williams as a blocking counterpart.
Round 6, Pick 7:
Rontez Miles, FS, California (PA)
- This guy looks the part with decent size and athleticism. He is a fearless, big hitter across the middle, but he will have to adjust to the athleticism in the NFL.
Round 7, Pick 4 (From Eagles):
Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech
- I am sick of the sub par punting over the past couple of years. Hodges needs to go, and the Browns need to try to get either Allen or Quinn Sharp in the 7th. There looks to be three draftable Punters in this year's class, and the Jaguars proved that a rookie punter can step in and be a force in field position (the Jags just couldn't do anything else right)
Round 7, Pick 6
Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
- Goodwin is a phenomenal athlete qualifying for the Olympics in the long jump (over 27 feet, which is amazing considering he is 5-9, and he ran a 10.24 100m dash). With Goodwin and Benjamin on special teams and using him sporadically in four or five wide sets, the Browns would truly be a vertical team.
Post your own Mock, with or without explanations as to who you would like the Browns to draft:
With the new coach bringing in an attacking offense and most likely a 3-4 attacking defense, this is who I would like the Browns to target with each of their picks. (I'm including the 7th rounder that they will likely receive from the Eagles for the Sims trade)
Round 1, Pick 6:
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
- Jones may end up going 2nd or 5th overall to the Jaguars or the Lions. But I think ultimately he will end up being available at the 6th pick. Jones will immediately step in and play opposite of Jabaal Sheard at OLB. Sheard's primary duty will be to rush the passer, while Jones will play a jack-of-all-trades position. This could be a deadly combination on third down if Sheard can make the transition.
Round 3, Pick 6:
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn
- Wreh-Wilson has the size (6-0, 190) and the athleticism (4.45) of a quality starter. Hopefully the Browns resign and try Brown at FS. Wreh-Wilson could jump in opposite of Haden and allow Skrine to strictly play nickel, where he is decent (while horrible on an island).
Round 4, Pick 7:
J.C. Tretter, OG, Cornell
- A small school prospect who is rising up boards. He started as a Tight End and has put on over 65 lbs of mass, but in the NFL he will need to get stronger. He could start out as a great pulling technician to help the run game out, while providing good pass protection.
Round 5, Pick 6:
Michael Williams, TE, Alabama
Williams has the size and experience to develop into a great blocking Tight End. He is underrated as a pass catcher, but this pick would essentially be for Double Tight sets with Cameron as the primary receiver and Williams as a blocking counterpart.
Round 6, Pick 7:
Rontez Miles, FS, California (PA)
- This guy looks the part with decent size and athleticism. He is a fearless, big hitter across the middle, but he will have to adjust to the athleticism in the NFL.
Round 7, Pick 4 (From Eagles):
Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech
- I am sick of the sub par punting over the past couple of years. Hodges needs to go, and the Browns need to try to get either Allen or Quinn Sharp in the 7th. There looks to be three draftable Punters in this year's class, and the Jaguars proved that a rookie punter can step in and be a force in field position (the Jags just couldn't do anything else right)
Round 7, Pick 6
Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
- Goodwin is a phenomenal athlete qualifying for the Olympics in the long jump (over 27 feet, which is amazing considering he is 5-9, and he ran a 10.24 100m dash). With Goodwin and Benjamin on special teams and using him sporadically in four or five wide sets, the Browns would truly be a vertical team.
Marquise Goodwin will be gone in round 3 after his performance at the Senior Bowl.. Would be nice though in round 7..
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Joe Haden posted this on his instagram last night around 11:45 EST. I found it pretty interesting and strange coming from Joe.
Do you guys think he's trying to suggest something in the upcoming 2013 draft with this picture, and caption reading "SEC boys!"
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Joe Haden posted this on his instagram last night around 11:45 EST. I found it pretty interesting and strange coming from Joe.
Do you guys think he's trying to suggest something in the upcoming 2013 draft with this picture, and caption reading "SEC boys!"
Joe Haden posted this on his instagram last night around 11:45 EST. I found it pretty interesting and strange coming from Joe.
Do you guys think he's trying to suggest something in the upcoming 2013 draft with this picture, and caption reading "SEC boys!"
Yes.
Zombo
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I'd buy a honey badger jersey all day.
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Hopefully the Browns trade down a little for a team looking to make a move for Fisher or a QB that falls... If they recoup a 3rd, I would love them to take Mathieu with that pick. He probably will not test well, and does not have the best size, but he is just a great playmaker. Mathieu would probably become the best nickel/inside CB after a few seasons.
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Hopefully the Browns trade down a little for a team looking to make a move for Fisher or a QB that falls... If they recoup a 3rd, I would love them to take Mathieu with that pick. He probably will not test well, and does not have the best size, but he is just a great playmaker. Mathieu would probably become the best nickel/inside CB after a few seasons.
Hopefully the Browns trade down a little for a team looking to make a move for Fisher or a QB that falls... If they recoup a 3rd, I would love them to take Mathieu with that pick. He probably will not test well, and does not have the best size, but he is just a great playmaker. Mathieu would probably become the best nickel/inside CB after a few seasons.
Mathieu was a great punt returner and a decent cover guy (in college). I just dont think his skills translate well to the pro game, Id rather get a bigger corner than a tiny one. The best defensive backfield in the NFL was Seattle, mostly because of their length.
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Joe Haden posted this on his instagram last night around 11:45 EST. I found it pretty interesting and strange coming from Joe.
Do you guys think he's trying to suggest something in the upcoming 2013 draft with this picture, and caption reading "SEC boys!"
Joe Haden posted this on his instagram last night around 11:45 EST. I found it pretty interesting and strange coming from Joe.
Do you guys think he's trying to suggest something in the upcoming 2013 draft with this picture, and caption reading "SEC boys!"
I'll reserve judgement till he works out at the combine.
There have already been a few teams looking at him.. i think the redskins and jets and a couple others.
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I would not hate if the Browns traded down no further then 15-20, to get an extra 2nd. With that second take a flyer on Tyler Wilson.
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I would not hate if the Browns traded down no further then 15-20, to get an extra 2nd. With that second take a flyer on Tyler Wilson.
I would not hate if the Browns traded down no further then 15-20, to get an extra 2nd. With that second take a flyer on Tyler Wilson.
Tyler Wilson will not be there. I guarantee you that he goes first round, if not teams will be jockying to trade to the top of the second to take him during the night between
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Maybe the Rams get antsy with Bradford or fall in love with someone early and we can trade back for their two first rounders. Then we could grab two of the following these guys: Chance Warmack, Xavier Rhodes, Dion Jordon/Sam Montgomery. Then we can hope that Joseph Fauria at TE is around in the third. My only other draft opinion is that we should stay away from Jones in the first because spinal stenosis is a serious condition and a threat to his career.
Maybe the Rams get antsy with Bradford or fall in love with someone early and we can trade back for their two first rounders. Then we could grab two of the following these guys: Chance Warmack, Xavier Rhodes, Dion Jordon/Sam Montgomery. Then we can hope that Joseph Fauria at TE is around in the third. My only other draft opinion is that we should stay away from Jones in the first because spinal stenosis is a serious condition and a threat to his career.
Why would the Rams get "antsy" with Bradford? he's put up similar stats to Flacco, Eli, Brees, Brady and etc did early in their careers. Shoot he put up close to Eli, Flacco numbers this year. He probably won't ever be Brady/Manning/Rogers but he's a damn good young QB.
2012 numbers Com% yards TD INT rating
Joe Flacco 60 3,817 22 10 87
Sam Bradford 60 3,702 22 13 83
and that was without one of the best rb's in the league and with a receiving corps that isn't even in the same universe.
I mean come on they passed on RGIII last year because of their faith in Bradford. He goes out and has a very solid year but now they are going to trade two firsts to get QB's who probably shouldn't even be top ten picks, aren't half the prospect RGIII was and not even that close to as good a prospect as Bradford was.
Listen we'd all love to have someone hand us two firsts but there's a reason how I've seen fans from nearly every top ten team trying to mock the Rams trading their two firsts to their teams. The top talent in this draft just doesn't stack up. It just sucks for us, and them, that the Rams needs lie at WR, G/C, OLB and safety. All positions they can easily fill at 16 and 22.
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This spinal stenosis affecting his draft stock is bullshit. Many players had, and played, with spinal stenosis.
Jones will be a top 10 pick, hopefully the sixth pick.
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Rams are a possibility to trade up ahead of Arizona to grab Fisher/Joeckel (If Fisher goes ahead of him). If the Rams resign Amendola, they won't have an immediate need for a WR (they did draft Quick and Givens early last year, with Givens producing as a deep threat)
I fully expect the Rams to trade into the Top 10, hopefully it is with us. Looking at a value chart the Browns would probably have to swap picks in the third and give up a fifth... It depends on how much the Rams will be willing to give up while trading up. But I'd be fine with losing a few spots in the third and a mid rounder to get two firsts.
My new dream mock:
16) Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon
- Seems to be slipping a little bit due an injury concerns. A perfect player to have opposite a rush backer like Sheard; he is a jack of all trades.
22) Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
- A big corner with a knack for making plays. His timed speed will cause him to either rise or drop.
78) Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse
- Pugh has versatility, and as scouts pointed out during the Senior Bowl, he needs to move inside as a guard. Could fill in at tackle if there are some injuries, but combining him with Thomas would be great, reminding fans of the short Steinbach/Thomas era. He used to be a 2nd round prospect as a left tackle, but since he'll probably be moving to guard, the Browns will probably get a chance at him in the 3rd.
101) Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
- Sims is a tight end who, in addition to having a huge frame, can be a player in the running game and the passing game. He would compliment Cameron well.
165) Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech
- David has a massive frame with great athleticism. He would pair well with Little on the underneath routes, while Gordon and Benjamin would be deep threats.
196) Rontez Miles, FS, Califronia (PA)
- I'm still hoping that the front office takes a chance on this guy. He has size, intensity, and consistently looked like the best athlete on the field (as he should, being an NFL prospect in D2). Worth a 7th round pick.
With this draft and the surplus of cap space, I'd expect the Browns to round out the roster adding free agents at the 3-4 DE position like Mike Devito or Ricky Jean Francois, CB position like Greg Toler, and P in Dustin Colquitt. Maybe make a splash with Jairus Byrd or Anthony Spencer.
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Rams are a possibility to trade up ahead of Arizona to grab Fisher/Joeckel (If Fisher goes ahead of him). If the Rams resign Amendola, they won't have an immediate need for a WR (they did draft Quick and Givens early last year, with Givens producing as a deep threat)
I fully expect the Rams to trade into the Top 10, hopefully it is with us. Looking at a value chart the Browns would probably have to swap picks in the third and give up a fifth... It depends on how much the Rams will be willing to give up while trading up. But I'd be fine with losing a few spots in the third and a mid rounder to get two firsts.
My new dream mock:
16) Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon
- Seems to be slipping a little bit due an injury concerns. A perfect player to have opposite a rush backer like Sheard; he is a jack of all trades.
22) Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
- A big corner with a knack for making plays. His timed speed will cause him to either rise or drop.
78) Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse
- Pugh has versatility, and as scouts pointed out during the Senior Bowl, he needs to move inside as a guard. Could fill in at tackle if there are some injuries, but combining him with Thomas would be great, reminding fans of the short Steinbach/Thomas era. He used to be a 2nd round prospect as a left tackle, but since he'll probably be moving to guard, the Browns will probably get a chance at him in the 3rd.
101) Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
- Sims is a tight end who, in addition to having a huge frame, can be a player in the running game and the passing game. He would compliment Cameron well.
165) Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech
- David has a massive frame with great athleticism. He would pair well with Little on the underneath routes, while Gordon and Benjamin would be deep threats.
196) Rontez Miles, FS, Califronia (PA)
- I'm still hoping that the front office takes a chance on this guy. He has size, intensity, and consistently looked like the best athlete on the field (as he should, being an NFL prospect in D2). Worth a 7th round pick.
With this draft and the surplus of cap space, I'd expect the Browns to round out the roster adding free agents at the 3-4 DE position like Mike Devito or Ricky Jean Francois, CB position like Greg Toler, and P in Dustin Colquitt. Maybe make a splash with Jairus Byrd or Anthony Spencer.
Rams are a possibility to trade up ahead of Arizona to grab Fisher/Joeckel (If Fisher goes ahead of him). If the Rams resign Amendola, they won't have an immediate need for a WR (they did draft Quick and Givens early last year, with Givens producing as a deep threat)
I fully expect the Rams to trade into the Top 10, hopefully it is with us. Looking at a value chart the Browns would probably have to swap picks in the third and give up a fifth... It depends on how much the Rams will be willing to give up while trading up. But I'd be fine with losing a few spots in the third and a mid rounder to get two firsts.
My new dream mock:
16) Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon
- Seems to be slipping a little bit due an injury concerns. A perfect player to have opposite a rush backer like Sheard; he is a jack of all trades.
22) Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
- A big corner with a knack for making plays. His timed speed will cause him to either rise or drop.
78) Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse
- Pugh has versatility, and as scouts pointed out during the Senior Bowl, he needs to move inside as a guard. Could fill in at tackle if there are some injuries, but combining him with Thomas would be great, reminding fans of the short Steinbach/Thomas era. He used to be a 2nd round prospect as a left tackle, but since he'll probably be moving to guard, the Browns will probably get a chance at him in the 3rd.
101) Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
- Sims is a tight end who, in addition to having a huge frame, can be a player in the running game and the passing game. He would compliment Cameron well.
165) Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech
- David has a massive frame with great athleticism. He would pair well with Little on the underneath routes, while Gordon and Benjamin would be deep threats.
196) Rontez Miles, FS, Califronia (PA)
- I'm still hoping that the front office takes a chance on this guy. He has size, intensity, and consistently looked like the best athlete on the field (as he should, being an NFL prospect in D2). Worth a 7th round pick.
With this draft and the surplus of cap space, I'd expect the Browns to round out the roster adding free agents at the 3-4 DE position like Mike Devito or Ricky Jean Francois, CB position like Greg Toler, and P in Dustin Colquitt. Maybe make a splash with Jairus Byrd or Anthony Spencer.
The Rams aren't trading up. it conflicts with literally everything Fisher and Snead believe in. Also yes they will still have a huge need at WR as they have no #1 receiver. You're basically suggesting they give up two firsts, plus more, to draft a player at a position they are already very strong at.
the Rams have one of the best lt's in the league. Saffold doesn't get much if any credit for media types but Profootballfocus rated him the best pass blocking LT in the entire league over the last half of the season. If Saffold was on a high profile team no one would be forecasting the Rams drafting a LT.
It just makes no sense for them to trade up, pass on filling real needs so they can get a QB or LT when they have two very good young players at those positions.
I know everyone would love to get their hands on those picks but it's not happening. People are basically inventing weaknesses on the Rams so they can convince themselves the Rams are going to trade up.
It's kind of hilarious honestly. The Rams have a woeful interior line and one of the worst receiving corps in the league but they are going to decide to pass on filling both those needs to draft over one of the best young LT's in the league? LIke I said it's a pipe dream that only makes sense if you know nothing about the Rams roster and are trying to convince yourself that the Rams make a bad move all to help the Browns.
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why when people talk about trading down they sell ourselves Short. you trade down from 6 you better get a number 1 next year. getting only a second round draft in for number 1 draft pick is old school browns bullshit.
why when people talk about trading down they sell ourselves Short. you trade down from 6 you better get a number 1 next year. getting only a second round draft in for number 1 draft pick is old school browns bullshit.
problem is there isn't much interest from anyone to trade up this year. These draft lacks the elite difference makers that most drafts have and the only team who has multiple firsts is the Rams. who I've explained why it makes no sense for them to trade up.
The truth is we will probably be better off standing pat or be happy with a first this year and next because the Rams aren't a fit.
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why when people talk about trading down they sell ourselves Short. you trade down from 6 you better get a number 1 next year. getting only a second round draft in for number 1 draft pick is old school browns bullshit.
problem is there isn't much interest from anyone to trade up this year. These draft lacks the elite difference makers that most drafts have and the only team who has multiple firsts is the Rams. who I've explained why it makes no sense for them to trade up.
The truth is we will probably be better off standing pat or be happy with a first this year and next because the Rams aren't a fit.
problem is there isn't much interest from anyone to trade up this year. These draft lacks the elite difference makers that most drafts have and the only team who has multiple firsts is the Rams. who I've explained why it makes no sense for them to trade up.
The truth is we will probably be better off standing pat or be happy with a first this year and next because the Rams aren't a fit.
If we do trade down, 1st this year and a 1st next year would be the best option, as if were going mainly with Weeden this year, the choices coming out at QB next year are better if Weeden doesn't make the improvement front office hopes.
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