Should We Consider The Honey Badger?
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Sure why not he will be there on the 3rd day of the draft
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...or we can keep putting scarecrows across from Haden each and every year and lose every season like we have been... no use for a talented secondary? Get some FA for the Linebackers and bring in fresh legs in the secondary, it's the way to go. Gotta keep pace with those young fast WRs... just look at Sheldon Brown... I hope you were just kidding...
We were 5-11 in 2009 before drafting Haden. We were 5-11 in 2010 after drafting Haden. Such a difference maker.
Ask Philly and the Jefs how bolstering only their secondary worked out.
No corner can cover a WR for more than 7 seconds. Darrelleion Revanders couldn't cover anyone for more than 7 seconds.
Im not saying we don't need secondary help, but addressing a #2 corner with the 6th pick is ridiculous, especially with the talent available at every-down positions.
If we pass up a guy like Jones, Mingo or Jordan for Milliner, it will be another blown pick by Lonbardi.
No corner can cover a WR for more than 7 seconds. Darrelleion Revanders couldn't cover anyone for more than 7 seconds.
Leon Sandcastle could cover anyone for at least 10 seconds. We should draft him.
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No corner can cover a WR for more than 7 seconds. Darrelleion Revanders couldn't cover anyone for more than 7 seconds.
Leon Sandcastle could cover anyone for at least 10 seconds. We should draft him.
Leon Sandcastle could cover anyone for at least 10 seconds. We should draft him.
I would be willing to trade the house to move up and get Leon Sandcastle.
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I would be willing to trade the house to move up and get Leon Sandcastle.
Im going to order a Browns jersey with Sandcastle on the back.
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I would take him in a heart beat!!!!
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In spite of his off-field issues, does his talent make him worthy of a selection? He could certainly contribute and I'm sure our locker room could handle him. Getting away from Louisiana will do him good too. Thoughts, opinions?
http://www.downattheone.com/College-Football/The-Honey-Badger-Problem
In spite of his off-field issues, does his talent make him worthy of a selection? He could certainly contribute and I'm sure our locker room could handle him. Getting away from Louisiana will do him good too. Thoughts, opinions?
http://www.downattheone.com/College-Football/The-Honey-Badger-Problem
If he is there in the 3rd I'd consider it. His ability to return kicks alone makes him a viable pick.
He is also a guy who might be able to jump to the other side of the ball and be a really exciting offensive option.
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Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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In spite of his off-field issues, does his talent make him worthy of a selection? He could certainly contribute and I'm sure our locker room could handle him. Getting away from Louisiana will do him good too. Thoughts, opinions?
http://www.downattheone.com/College-Football/The-Honey-Badger-Problem
In spite of his off-field issues, does his talent make him worthy of a selection? He could certainly contribute and I'm sure our locker room could handle him. Getting away from Louisiana will do him good too. Thoughts, opinions?
http://www.downattheone.com/College-Football/The-Honey-Badger-Problem
I think he may be there to be picked up as a UFA.
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Well, impressive- but with all disrespect Michigan, Wolverines (not much larger than badgers) have to be runners-up. they can take down caribou and deer, and have been known to fight off bears.
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In spite of his off-field issues, does his talent make him worthy of a selection? He could certainly contribute and I'm sure our locker room could handle him. Getting away from Louisiana will do him good too. Thoughts, opinions?
http://www.downattheone.com/College-Football/The-Honey-Badger-Problem
I think he may be there to be picked up as a UFA.
I think he may be there to be picked up as a UFA.
He will be drafted.....maybe by the 3rd round. No way he goes 7 undrafted.
JMO
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he will be drafted. the guy would have been a first rounder if he woulda played this year but he had to be stoopid and hang around with a bunch of dummies instead of seeing what was in front of him and concentrate on his future in the nfl.
i would definitely pick him in the third round, if he's still there. the guy single-handedly won that first LSU vs. BAMA matchup 2 years ago. fumble hits/recoveries for td's, kickoff return for td,.... at that time he was the only dude i had pinpointed to play across from haden.
now i'd be afraid he might infect haden with his immaturity considering haden aderol suspension last year.
i'd take him if there was something in his contract stating that we could cut him at any point if did anything detrimental to the team.
and to tcpo: one player does not make a team. sure we were 5-11 before and after we drafted haden but did we address any other key positions of need across and in front of him. i'll tell you what the percentages of passes thrown his way vs. the passes thrown to the other side or middle must be pretty lopsided. outside thomas, mack, taykor, sheard, DQ, TR the only other name on that list is haden. i think he's the best player on the team. just my opinion.
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If we don't address the corner position with the 6th pick then I think it would be a steal to pick up the Honey Badger in the 3rd. He's an athlete who makes big plays... His style surprisingly reminds me of Joe Haden (very agile, lays out for the football, in the right position to make a play). I would like to see us somehow trade up and get another 3rd pick to get this guy, his value/output is to high for his draft position to be in the 3rd or later, even with the issues. Ideally I would like the Browns to have Haden, FA veteran, and the honey badger at the nickel. Gives you depth at CB and in time the potential for Honey Badger to be the starter opposite of Haden
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If we don't address the corner position with the 6th pick then I think it would be a steal to pick up the Honey Badger in the 3rd. He's an athlete who makes big plays... His style surprisingly reminds me of Joe Haden (very agile, lays out for the football, in the right position to make a play). I would like to see us somehow trade up and get another 3rd pick to get this guy, his value/output is to high for his draft position to be in the 3rd or later, even with the issues. Ideally I would like the Browns to have Haden, FA veteran, and the honey badger at the nickel. Gives you depth at CB and in time the potential for Honey Badger to be the starter opposite of Haden
If we don't address the corner position with the 6th pick then I think it would be a steal to pick up the Honey Badger in the 3rd. He's an athlete who makes big plays... His style surprisingly reminds me of Joe Haden (very agile, lays out for the football, in the right position to make a play). I would like to see us somehow trade up and get another 3rd pick to get this guy, his value/output is to high for his draft position to be in the 3rd or later, even with the issues. Ideally I would like the Browns to have Haden, FA veteran, and the honey badger at the nickel. Gives you depth at CB and in time the potential for Honey Badger to be the starter opposite of Haden
and the next eric metcalf type punt kick returner.....
sorry cribbs fans.
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If we don't address the corner position with the 6th pick then I think it would be a steal to pick up the Honey Badger in the 3rd. He's an athlete who makes big plays... His style surprisingly reminds me of Joe Haden (very agile, lays out for the football, in the right position to make a play). I would like to see us somehow trade up and get another 3rd pick to get this guy, his value/output is to high for his draft position to be in the 3rd or later, even with the issues. Ideally I would like the Browns to have Haden, FA veteran, and the honey badger at the nickel. Gives you depth at CB and in time the potential for Honey Badger to be the starter opposite of Haden
and the next eric metcalf type punt kick returner.....
sorry cribbs fans.
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Probably wouldn't happen with Benjamin on the roster. Benajmin runs the 40 a full 2 tenths of a second faster than Mathieu.
The great thing about Cribbs, and almost all of the great kick returners of all-time (although not Metcalf)were that were dedicated special teamers who were just part time role players.
I think we have plans to use Benjamin as a wide receiver. Put him back for the occasional punt return when the game is on the line, but don't get him killed playing special teams full time.
Either re-sign Cribbs or bring in another guy for the kick returner role, I think Benjamin has a real future as a wide receiver.
Zombo
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i think benjamin is a burner and i like how he spreads the field but i don't remember much of him in the return game. don't know if he has the field vidion like a cribbs or a hester who knows when to burst through the first line and then make that one cut that frees him with the speed.
hey, we'll see. when i mentioned metcalf it was more about the size comparison to mathieu, and what i saw of him in that bama game.
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Probably wouldn't happen with Benjamin on the roster. Benajmin runs the 40 a full 2 tenths of a second faster than Mathieu.
The great thing about Cribbs, and almost all of the great kick returners of all-time (although not Metcalf)were that were dedicated special teamers who were just part time role players.
I think we have plans to use Benjamin as a wide receiver. Put him back for the occasional punt return when the game is on the line, but don't get him killed playing special teams full time.
Either re-sign Cribbs or bring in another guy for the kick returner role, I think Benjamin has a real future as a wide receiver.
Zombo
Zombo said:
The great thing about Cribbs, and almost all of the great kick returners of all-time (although not Metcalf)were that were dedicated special teamers who were just part time role players.
I think we have plans to use Benjamin as a wide receiver. Put him back for the occasional punt return when the game is on the line, but don't get him killed playing special teams full time.
Either re-sign Cribbs or bring in another guy for the kick returner role, I think Benjamin has a real future as a wide receiver.
Zombo
That's where I disagree, I think he's a full time special teamer and a part time offensive weapon in the eyes of Chud and co. Reports are that they're looking for a WR to bring in, which would move Benjamin to 4th WR in an offense that utilizes a 2 TE set. So, in effect, he would rarely be used.
If they don't bring in a WR, then I feel his chances are much greater to be a part of the offense.
i think benjamin is a burner and i like how he spreads the field but i don't remember much of him in the return game. don't know if he has the field vidion like a cribbs or a hester who knows when to burst through the first line and then make that one cut that frees him with the speed.
hey, we'll see. when i mentioned metcalf it was more about the size comparison to mathieu, and what i saw of him in that bama game.
I don't remember hearing his name much, but I think that's because Cribbs was used more often than not.
I do remember this though:
He holds the record for longest punt return in Browns history already. Having both Mathieu and Benjamin back there on kickoffs would really open up some options.
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Don't badger me about the 'Badger anymore. 5' 9", bulked up to impress the scouts (185). Ran a so-so 40 (4.5). At that height, he had better be able to jump out of the building, and he didn't 34" vertical. Wimpy 4 reps in the bench press.
Guys like AJ Green will out jump him by a foot, or shove him into the first row seats.
Looks like a player tailor made for the Bengals or Raiders- in the third round.
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Don't badger me about the 'Badger anymore. 5' 9", bulked up to impress the scouts (185). Ran a so-so 40 (4.5). At that height, he had better be able to jump out of the building, and he didn't 34" vertical. Wimpy 4 reps in the bench press.
Guys like AJ Green will out jump him by a foot, or shove him into the first row seats.
Looks like a player tailor made for the Bengals or Raiders- in the third round.
Don't badger me about the 'Badger anymore. 5' 9", bulked up to impress the scouts (185). Ran a so-so 40 (4.5). At that height, he had better be able to jump out of the building, and he didn't 34" vertical. Wimpy 4 reps in the bench press.
Guys like AJ Green will out jump him by a foot, or shove him into the first row seats.
Looks like a player tailor made for the Bengals or Raiders- in the third round.
Some guys ... Honey badger, Te'o, Colt McCoy ... dominate at the college level because they are great football players, but just lack the God-given speed, size or strength to be elite NFL players.
Just like I can be a successful real estate Broker in Naples, FL, but I'd probably get chewed up on Manhattan. Everybody has their level.
Not saying these guys can't have a worthy career in the NFL ... but they won't be the stars they were in college.
Zombo
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