Top 10 Nfl Draft Steals
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I believe Winn in the 6th will go down as a hell of a steal for us. Gordon in the second as well, kid is showing that he would have gone in the top 15 without the OTF issues
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I believe Winn in the 6th will go down as a hell of a steal for us. Gordon in the second as well, kid is showing that he would have gone in the top 15 without the OTF issues
I believe Winn in the 6th will go down as a hell of a steal for us. Gordon in the second as well, kid is showing that he would have gone in the top 15 without the OTF issues
About half of last years class we haven't even seen yet so you never know who might step up and start making plays
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10-Marques Colston, WR, New Orleans Saints
The big receiver was supposed to be too slow, yet all he has done since being selected in the seventh round in 2006 is score 40 touchdowns and become one of the better young receivers in the league. Colston has proved you don’t have to post a great 40-yard dash time to become a good receiver
9-T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR, Cincinnati Bengals
When the Bengals selected him in the seventh round in 2001, much of the attention was focused on his former college teammate, Chud Ochocinco, who was selected in the second round by Cincinnati. But Houshmandzadeh wound up making the roster that year. He caught 31 touchdowns and posted 506 receptions during his eight seasons with the Bengals.
8-Jamal Anderson, RB, Atlanta Falcons
A seventh-round pick in the 1994 draft, he didn’t do much in his first few seasons but wound up winning the starting job in Year 3. Anderson went on to score 34 touchdowns on the ground and ran for over 5,300 yards during his eight-year career
7-Terrell Davis, RB, Denver Broncos
When the Broncos selected Davis in the sixth round in 1995, not much was expected since he wasn’t known for possessing ideal speed for the position. But Davis wound up winning the starting running back job that season and went on to post 60 touchdowns and over 7,600 yards on the ground during his seven-year career
6-Will Shields, G, Kansas City Chiefs
Shields will go down as one of the best third-round picks in the past 25 years or so. The interior offensive lineman didn’t miss a game in his 14-year career and started all but one after being drafted in 1993. He’s a lock to make the Pro Football Hall of Fame
5-Ronde Barber, CB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The veteran defensive back has sustained unbelievable durability and a high level of play since he was selected in the third round in 1997. Barber, who recently signed a one-year deal to remain with the Buccaneers, has started an incredible 183 straight games
4-Zach Thomas, LB, Miami Dolphins
This fifth-round pick in the 1996 draft not only wound up making the roster coming out of the preseason that year but won a starting job. He was one of the best inside linebackers on any team during his 13-year
3-Thurman Thomas, RB, Buffalo Bills
Thomas fell to the second round in 1988 because personnel evaluators believed he didn’t run fast enough after a knee injury. All Thomas did was become one of the most versatile backs in NFL history and make the Pro Football Hall of Fame
2-Shannon Sharpe, TE, Denver Broncos
Sharpe fell to the seventh round of the 1990 draft because teams weren’t sure if he was going to be able to play wide receiver or tight end at the NFL level. Sharpe wound up not just playing tight end. He became a movable chess piece in Denver’s offense for years and earned induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
1-Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
Scouts said Brady didn’t have a good arm, was too slow and wasn’t going to be anything more than a backup after being selected in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL draft. Instead, he took over the starting job during his second season and has gone on to win three Super Bowls, two Super Bowl MVP awards and countless other honors\
10-Marques Colston, WR, New Orleans Saints
The big receiver was supposed to be too slow, yet all he has done since being selected in the seventh round in 2006 is score 40 touchdowns and become one of the better young receivers in the league. Colston has proved you don’t have to post a great 40-yard dash time to become a good receiver
9-T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR, Cincinnati Bengals
When the Bengals selected him in the seventh round in 2001, much of the attention was focused on his former college teammate, Chud Ochocinco, who was selected in the second round by Cincinnati. But Houshmandzadeh wound up making the roster that year. He caught 31 touchdowns and posted 506 receptions during his eight seasons with the Bengals.
8-Jamal Anderson, RB, Atlanta Falcons
A seventh-round pick in the 1994 draft, he didn’t do much in his first few seasons but wound up winning the starting job in Year 3. Anderson went on to score 34 touchdowns on the ground and ran for over 5,300 yards during his eight-year career
7-Terrell Davis, RB, Denver Broncos
When the Broncos selected Davis in the sixth round in 1995, not much was expected since he wasn’t known for possessing ideal speed for the position. But Davis wound up winning the starting running back job that season and went on to post 60 touchdowns and over 7,600 yards on the ground during his seven-year career
6-Will Shields, G, Kansas City Chiefs
Shields will go down as one of the best third-round picks in the past 25 years or so. The interior offensive lineman didn’t miss a game in his 14-year career and started all but one after being drafted in 1993. He’s a lock to make the Pro Football Hall of Fame
5-Ronde Barber, CB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The veteran defensive back has sustained unbelievable durability and a high level of play since he was selected in the third round in 1997. Barber, who recently signed a one-year deal to remain with the Buccaneers, has started an incredible 183 straight games
4-Zach Thomas, LB, Miami Dolphins
This fifth-round pick in the 1996 draft not only wound up making the roster coming out of the preseason that year but won a starting job. He was one of the best inside linebackers on any team during his 13-year
3-Thurman Thomas, RB, Buffalo Bills
Thomas fell to the second round in 1988 because personnel evaluators believed he didn’t run fast enough after a knee injury. All Thomas did was become one of the most versatile backs in NFL history and make the Pro Football Hall of Fame
2-Shannon Sharpe, TE, Denver Broncos
Sharpe fell to the seventh round of the 1990 draft because teams weren’t sure if he was going to be able to play wide receiver or tight end at the NFL level. Sharpe wound up not just playing tight end. He became a movable chess piece in Denver’s offense for years and earned induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
1-Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
Scouts said Brady didn’t have a good arm, was too slow and wasn’t going to be anything more than a backup after being selected in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL draft. Instead, he took over the starting job during his second season and has gone on to win three Super Bowls, two Super Bowl MVP awards and countless other honors\
Sorry, you missed one- Joe Montana, third round.
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Here is my Top Draft Steals for the Cleveland Browns since 1970:
1971 Doug Dieken 6th round
1972 Brian Sipe 13th round
1973 Greg Pruitt 2nd round
1975 Dick Ambrose 12th round
1978 Ozzie Newsome 1st round , 23rd overall
1979 Cody Risien 7th round
1981 Eddie Johnson 7th round
1982 Mike Baab 5th round
1983 Paul Farren 12th round
1984 Ernest Byner 10th round
1985 Reggie Langhorne 7th round
1988 Michael Dean Perry 2nd round, 50th overall
1990 Rob Burnett 5th round
1990 Anthony Pleasant 3rd round
2001 Anthony Henry 4th round
2008 Ahtyba Rubin 6th round
Couldn't find much to crow about during the Belichick/Lombardi era.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Here is my Top Draft Steals for the Cleveland Browns since 1970:
1971 Doug Dieken 6th round
1972 Brian Sipe 13th round
1973 Greg Pruitt 2nd round
1975 Dick Ambrose 12th round
1978 Ozzie Newsome 1st round , 23rd overall
1979 Cody Risien 7th round
1981 Eddie Johnson 7th round
1982 Mike Baab 5th round
1983 Paul Farren 12th round
1984 Ernest Byner 10th round
1985 Reggie Langhorne 7th round
1988 Michael Dean Perry 2nd round, 50th overall
1990 Rob Burnett 5th round
1990 Anthony Pleasant 3rd round
2001 Anthony Henry 4th round
2008 Ahtyba Rubin 6th round
Couldn't find much to crow about during the Belichick/Lombardi era.
Zombo
I'd add Andra Davis, 2002 5th round, started 83 games for the Browns.
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10-Marques Colston, WR, New Orleans Saints
The big receiver was supposed to be too slow, yet all he has done since being selected in the seventh round in 2006 is score 40 touchdowns and become one of the better young receivers in the league. Colston has proved you don’t have to post a great 40-yard dash time to become a good receiver
9-T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR, Cincinnati Bengals
When the Bengals selected him in the seventh round in 2001, much of the attention was focused on his former college teammate, Chud Ochocinco, who was selected in the second round by Cincinnati. But Houshmandzadeh wound up making the roster that year. He caught 31 touchdowns and posted 506 receptions during his eight seasons with the Bengals.
8-Jamal Anderson, RB, Atlanta Falcons
A seventh-round pick in the 1994 draft, he didn’t do much in his first few seasons but wound up winning the starting job in Year 3. Anderson went on to score 34 touchdowns on the ground and ran for over 5,300 yards during his eight-year career
7-Terrell Davis, RB, Denver Broncos
When the Broncos selected Davis in the sixth round in 1995, not much was expected since he wasn’t known for possessing ideal speed for the position. But Davis wound up winning the starting running back job that season and went on to post 60 touchdowns and over 7,600 yards on the ground during his seven-year career
6-Will Shields, G, Kansas City Chiefs
Shields will go down as one of the best third-round picks in the past 25 years or so. The interior offensive lineman didn’t miss a game in his 14-year career and started all but one after being drafted in 1993. He’s a lock to make the Pro Football Hall of Fame
5-Ronde Barber, CB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The veteran defensive back has sustained unbelievable durability and a high level of play since he was selected in the third round in 1997. Barber, who recently signed a one-year deal to remain with the Buccaneers, has started an incredible 183 straight games
4-Zach Thomas, LB, Miami Dolphins
This fifth-round pick in the 1996 draft not only wound up making the roster coming out of the preseason that year but won a starting job. He was one of the best inside linebackers on any team during his 13-year
3-Thurman Thomas, RB, Buffalo Bills
Thomas fell to the second round in 1988 because personnel evaluators believed he didn’t run fast enough after a knee injury. All Thomas did was become one of the most versatile backs in NFL history and make the Pro Football Hall of Fame
2-Shannon Sharpe, TE, Denver Broncos
Sharpe fell to the seventh round of the 1990 draft because teams weren’t sure if he was going to be able to play wide receiver or tight end at the NFL level. Sharpe wound up not just playing tight end. He became a movable chess piece in Denver’s offense for years and earned induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
1-Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
Scouts said Brady didn’t have a good arm, was too slow and wasn’t going to be anything more than a backup after being selected in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL draft. Instead, he took over the starting job during his second season and has gone on to win three Super Bowls, two Super Bowl MVP awards and countless other honors\
Sorry, you missed one- Joe Montana, third round.
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I think I can do better than y'all have with these:
Roosevelt Brown 321st pick, 27th round Giants 1953
Raymond Berry 232d pick, 20th round, 1954 Colts
Andy Robustelli, 228th pick, 19th round Rams 1951
Chris Hanburger, 245th pick, 18th round, Redskins 1965
Bart Starr, 200th pick, 17th round, Packers 1956
Willie Davis, 181st pick, 15th round Browns 1956
Deacon Jones, 186th pick, 14th round Rams 1961
Roger Staubach, 129th pick, 10th round Cowboys 1964
John Unitas, 102d pick, 9th round, Steelers 1955
Shannon Sharpe, 192d pick, 7th round Broncos 1990
Even Better yet are all these guys:
John Randle
Warren Moon
Jim Langer
Willie Brown
Willie Wood
Dick "Night Train" Lane
All of the above were Undrafted Free Agents that any team could have picked up.
Every person mentioned above is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame
The Hell of it is that the Browns owned the rights to both Willie Davis and Jim Langer and just let them go.
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However, note this: the Browns did pick up the following players who also went undrafted by the NFL:
Frank Gatski
Lou Groza
Marion Motley
Bill Willis
again, every one a Hall of Famer
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NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
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As you may know, Tom Brady was the 199th pick in the 2000 draft and is a sure fire Hall of Famer. The ONLY players in the Hall of Fame in history that were drafted lower, by pick number, than Brady are as follows:
Bart Starr #200
Richard Dent #203
Ken Houston #214
Andy Robustelli #228
Raymond Berry #232
Chris Hanburger #245
Roosevelt Brown #321
And the group which I referenced before of the street FAs.
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NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Arguably, perhaps. Put him against the guys I mentioned in the previous couple of posts and let them duke it out.
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Zombo said:
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
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Zombo said:
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
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Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
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On my list I missed Eddie Johnson, taken with pick #187 in 1981. So definitely include him.
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Zombo said:
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
I'm saying that snaring Aaron Shea with the 110th pick in the draft was not really much of a feather in our cap.
Zombo
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