Top 10 Nfl Draft Steals
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I think I can do better than y'all have with these:
Roosevelt Brown 321st pick, 27th round Giants 1953
Raymond Berry 232d pick, 20th round, 1954 Colts
Andy Robustelli, 228th pick, 19th round Rams 1951
Chris Hanburger, 245th pick, 18th round, Redskins 1965
Bart Starr, 200th pick, 17th round, Packers 1956
Willie Davis, 181st pick, 15th round Browns 1956
Deacon Jones, 186th pick, 14th round Rams 1961
Roger Staubach, 129th pick, 10th round Cowboys 1964
John Unitas, 102d pick, 9th round, Steelers 1955
Shannon Sharpe, 192d pick, 7th round Broncos 1990
Even Better yet are all these guys:
John Randle
Warren Moon
Jim Langer
Willie Brown
Willie Wood
Dick "Night Train" Lane
All of the above were Undrafted Free Agents that any team could have picked up.
Every person mentioned above is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame
The Hell of it is that the Browns owned the rights to both Willie Davis and Jim Langer and just let them go.
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However, note this: the Browns did pick up the following players who also went undrafted by the NFL:
Frank Gatski
Lou Groza
Marion Motley
Bill Willis
again, every one a Hall of Famer
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NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
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As you may know, Tom Brady was the 199th pick in the 2000 draft and is a sure fire Hall of Famer. The ONLY players in the Hall of Fame in history that were drafted lower, by pick number, than Brady are as follows:
Bart Starr #200
Richard Dent #203
Ken Houston #214
Andy Robustelli #228
Raymond Berry #232
Chris Hanburger #245
Roosevelt Brown #321
And the group which I referenced before of the street FAs.
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NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Arguably, perhaps. Put him against the guys I mentioned in the previous couple of posts and let them duke it out.
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Zombo said:
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
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Zombo said:
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
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Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
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On my list I missed Eddie Johnson, taken with pick #187 in 1981. So definitely include him.
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Zombo said:
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
I'm saying that snaring Aaron Shea with the 110th pick in the draft was not really much of a feather in our cap.
Zombo
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