Top 10 Nfl Draft Steals
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NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
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As you may know, Tom Brady was the 199th pick in the 2000 draft and is a sure fire Hall of Famer. The ONLY players in the Hall of Fame in history that were drafted lower, by pick number, than Brady are as follows:
Bart Starr #200
Richard Dent #203
Ken Houston #214
Andy Robustelli #228
Raymond Berry #232
Chris Hanburger #245
Roosevelt Brown #321
And the group which I referenced before of the street FAs.
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NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Arguably, perhaps. Put him against the guys I mentioned in the previous couple of posts and let them duke it out.
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
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Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years:
Galen Fiss #155 1953
Bernie Parish #108 1958
Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years)
Leroy Kelly #110 1964
Jack Gregory #139 1966
Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years)
Walt Sumner #176 1969
Doug Dieken #142 1971
Brian Sipe #330 1972
Dick Ambrose #290 1975
Cody Risien #183 1979
Steve Cox #134 1981
Mike Baab #115 1982
Paul Farren #316 1983
Brian Brennan #104 1984
Ernest Byner #280 1984
Reggie Langhorne #175 1985
Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers)
Rob Burnett #129 1990
Aaron Shea #110 2000
Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003
Lawrence Vickers #180 2006
Aytaba Rubin #190 2008
Others of note:
Don Shula #110 1951
Chuck Noll #239 1953
John Havlicek #95 1962
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Zombo said:
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
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Zombo said:
Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ...
Zombo
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
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Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm
Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best.
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
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On my list I missed Eddie Johnson, taken with pick #187 in 1981. So definitely include him.
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Zombo said:
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
Zombo
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little.
I'm saying that snaring Aaron Shea with the 110th pick in the draft was not really much of a feather in our cap.
Zombo
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