Draft Thoughts 2013

Lumbergh

Had no idea Chase Thomas of Stanford was only projected as a 3rd-4th round pick. This guy is the reason Stanford went into Eugene and beat Oregon this year. I don't know who does all this grading shit because Chase Thomas will be a good player in the league.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631925/chase-thomas

Lumbergh

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I think we couldn't go wrong taking Collin Klein in the seventh.

He's a big dumb monster and at the very least could be a viable TE.

Any GM who drafts that guy should be fired.

thenew23

At this point my Big board for our #6 overall now looks like this:

1. Dion Jordan - Ore

2. Ezekiel Ansah - BYU

3. Bjoern Werner - FSU

4. Barkevious Mingo - LSU

5. Damontre Moore - TA&M

6. Jarvis Jones - UGA

Obviously they're all 3-4 OLBs b/c with all this talent we can't miss, and it is our biggest position of need. I've watched some film (via youtube) on all 6 of these guys, as well as checked out the combine stats. I'm hoping to get a look at the on-field drills to see how well these guys play standing up. Jordan and Jones are really the only 2 with a decent amount of coverage experience, the other 4 are pure pass-rushers so the drills are important.

calfoxwc

At this point my Big board for our #6 overall now looks like this: 1. Dion Jordan - Ore 2. Ezekiel Ansah - BYU 3. Bjoern Werner - FSU 4. Barkevious Mingo - LSU 5. Damontre Moore - TA&M 6. Jarvis Jones - UGA

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Not a bad list, but Mingo won't go that high, and Moore only did ...12 reps on the bench press? That's not good.

Jones reportedly was okayed at the combine physically. He could be the pick. Who knows ?

thenew23

@calfoxwc said:

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Not a bad list, but Mingo won't go that high, and Moore only did ...12 reps on the bench press? That's not good.

Jones reportedly was okayed at the combine physically. He could be the pick. Who knows ?

Jones moves up to #1 on that list, if he PROVES to be healthy.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@lumbergh said:

Any GM who drafts that guy should be fired.

I disagree.

Any GM who drafts him to play solely QB should be fired, but getting him late in the seventh round as a utility player could be beneficial. He's 6'6", runs a 4.7 40 and has played QB, WR, and TE at a major college program. His measurables compare to that of Jordan Cameron, and it's been reported that he is quite sure-handed.

His combine performance put him up to the sixth QB on many scouts boards, so it wouldn't be far fetched to see him taken and used in a Brad Smith-esque role with some team.

Hunt Daddy

I really gotta say we're going to get a quality player at a position of need at the 6 pick and it's refreshing.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@hunt-daddy said:

I really gotta say we're going to get a quality player at a position of need at the 6 pick and it's refreshing.

Don't count your chickens.

Hunt Daddy

Well in theory at least. There are at least 5 or 6 defensive lineman or linebackers that are highly rated prospects. We SHOULD get one at least.

mdmusch

Dion Jordan had a spectacular combine. Looking at his change of direction during the drills was excellent. Like I've said prior, put this guy opposite a rush backer(give Sheard a try) and he will be a jack of all trades. Probably a guy who can get seven sacks annually, plus play a great role in pass coverage.

I'm excited, Jordan for Pick Six...

Hunt Daddy

I've become a big Jordan fan, too. Hope he lasts until 6.

hoorta

Mingo tore it up in the drills. Not only ran a sub 4.6 40, did 38 reps on the bench press. He may not last until #6.

English Brown

As it now looks like KC are trading with SF therefore leaving Geno Smith, anyone think we would be open to trading our 6 to a team in need of a QB if he's still available?

I'm not particularly for or against the idea or even have a team in mind, it's just there seems a long list of players that could upgrade us on the defensive side even if we traded down slightly.

Flyin J

Its happening just as I called it in december...Werner and Moore are dropping while Jordan and Mingo are rising...Id really like to know whay our docs think of Jones' spinal issue. My top 4 in order for our 6 pick- Jordan, Jones, Ansah, Mingo (I would understand if they took Mingo over Ansah though because Ansah doesnt fill a need)

Flyin J

@english-brown said:

As it now looks like KC are trading with SF therefore leaving Geno Smith, anyone think we would be open to trading our 6 to a team in need of a QB if he's still available?

I'm not particularly for or against the idea or even have a team in mind, it's just there seems a long list of players that could upgrade us on the defensive side even if we traded down slightly.

I think its a definite possibility...especially with a bunch of QB needy teams picking right behind us.

Dawgdamit

Trade Down to gain a 2nd rd and possible future pick in 2014, Pick BPA Defense, add a QB in the 4th rd and a Guard somewhere in the draft. I have not honed in on any particular players yet.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

I have two possible draft scenarios that I would absolutely love.

#6- Jarvis Jones/Dion Jordan, OLB

#68-David Amerson, CB

#101- Gavin Escobar, TE

then BPA to finish

I also wouldn't mind seeing us trade back with Buffalo or Tennessee and add a second round pick, then take Mingo or Jordan if they're still available and then take EJ Manuel with our second round pick.

The Gipper

@dawgdamit said:

Trade Down to gain a 2nd rd and possible future pick in 2014, Pick BPA Defense, add a QB in the 4th rd and a Guard somewhere in the draft. I have not honed in on any particular players yet.

Hopefully you are not forgetting the Browns needs in the secondary. Those are perhaps as dire as the need for OLBs. So do not dismiss the possibility that the Browns could go for Milliner at #6. If he is there I believe they will have to think long and hard about taking him.

Though, as noted at various times here, some of those needs may be addressed in FA with the Browns salary cap room.

Flyin J

@the-gipper said:

Hopefully you are not forgetting the Browns needs in the secondary. Those are perhaps as dire as the need for OLBs. So do not dismiss the possibility that the Browns could go for Milliner at #6. If he is there I believe they will have to think long and hard about taking him.

Though, as noted at various times here, some of those needs may be addressed in FA with the Browns salary cap room.

I really hope and believe we are going to grab a #2 CB via free agency. Milliner looks pretty good but Id hate to pass on a top of the line pass rusher for a #2 CB when we already have a great #1.

mdmusch

Post-Combine Mock

6) Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon

- I've been stating this for awhile now how Jordan will pay immediately dividends in many ways that can not always be judged by statistics. He can play every down, while having the ability to rush the passer and cover tight ends, as well as, slot receivers.

68) Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Lousiana

- Alford had a hell of a combine. Combine this with his production (albeit FCS) and he will be gone by the early third. A great player to come in an compete for the CB position opposite of Haden.

100*) Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas

- Bailey is a player who raised his stock throughout the combine. The Browns need an upgrade at LG, especially in run blocking in which Bailey will help tremendously.

131*) Denard Robinson, RB/WR, Michigan

- With his lack of polish at a projected position, I believe Robinson will be available here. Place Robinson in a role where he can have about three carries and two designed receptions a game and he will flourish. I also would like the Browns to continue the double duty on returns that they experimented with late last year with Benjamin/Cribbs both deep.

162*) Michael Williams, TE, Alabama

- He has been dropping a bit, and the lack of invite to the combine will only hurt his stock. Williams could come in and become an excellent compliment to Cameron. I even think his blocking could be used from day one in two tight sets.

164*) Sean Renfree, QB, Duke

- Renfree has real NFL tools, and bringing him in within the sixth round would be a smart choice. He had good production, a lot of experience, and a strong arm. If Weeden flounders, I doubt Renfree would be the QB of the future, but it is worth a try and at the very least, the new staff will get a good back up.

*Compensatory picks will change the order