Honey Badger Agent Demands Guaranteed Money Or No Contract Signing
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NO. We aren't talking the amount of the contract. We're talking about the stipulation that he doesn't rate guaranteed money.
He has proven himself to be irresponsible in the dope dept, and that's a huge understatement. So, he doesn't get the benefit
of being considered a safe bet that he won't make the team disgusted that the guaranteed money won't go up in smoke.
IOW's, despite his talent, he is a doper "flight risk". Like has already been said - the guarantee part is not required.
Do I think they drafted him too high, yeah. But that draft pick doesn't mean that "guaranteed" is part of his contract.
Yes, they already took the chance that they get nothing for their pick ...so, they won't really care, they
had more picks than just the one they used to take a chance on him.
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man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
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man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
Why on God's green earth would you think that going to NY is seeing "the real world" any more than seeing things on a farm?
Having been all over this nation from Chatanika to Coral Bay, from Lubec to Makaha I can tell you that both are just as real as the other.
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Bad ASSumption, Mik. Only have had the farm for about 5 years.
But your reply is just an avoidance of saying you're wrong. Let's just see
how it plays out....
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Even though gaurenteed money isn't in the CBA, it is still expected, regardless of what kind of baggage the player brings with them. It litterally effects what other players get offer below that pick and it sets a president. Thats why when you see one player hold out of gaurenteed money, the 5 guys below his draft slot hold out until the first guys contract gets finished.
Can the Cards try to make him sign with nothing guarenteed. Yep. Should the Honey Badger sign that contract. No chance in hell.
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When you step onto the football field of the NFL all it takes is one hit, one unlucky hit and your done. You could be paralyzed, crippled, or even killed. Look at what happened to D.J. Hayden, a freak accident; nearly died. If his contract has no guarenteed money, only incentive laden verbage, he going to have to take risks to try and make the plays he has to make to get paid. One bad play, one freak hit and the Cardnails could cut him and he gets nothing. You think that's fair... really?
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NO. We aren't talking the amount of the contract. We're talking about the stipulation that he doesn't rate guaranteed money.
He has proven himself to be irresponsible in the dope dept, and that's a huge understatement. So, he doesn't get the benefit
of being considered a safe bet that he won't make the team disgusted that the guaranteed money won't go up in smoke.
IOW's, despite his talent, he is a doper "flight risk". Like has already been said - the guarantee part is not required.
Do I think they drafted him too high, yeah. But that draft pick doesn't mean that "guaranteed" is part of his contract.
Yes, they already took the chance that they get nothing for their pick ...so, they won't really care, they
had more picks than just the one they used to take a chance on him.
Right.NO. We aren't talking the amount of the contract. We're talking about the stipulation that he doesn't rate guaranteed money.
He has proven himself to be irresponsible in the dope dept, and that's a huge understatement. So, he doesn't get the benefit
of being considered a safe bet that he won't make the team disgusted that the guaranteed money won't go up in smoke.
IOW's, despite his talent, he is a doper "flight risk". Like has already been said - the guarantee part is not required.
Do I think they drafted him too high, yeah. But that draft pick doesn't mean that "guaranteed" is part of his contract.
Yes, they already took the chance that they get nothing for their pick ...so, they won't really care, they
had more picks than just the one they used to take a chance on him.
But, there hasn't been a pick taken where he was that didn't receive guaranteed money.
By doing this, they are setting a precedent that the owners are in absolute control and that players have no bargaining chips. Keep this up, and there will be yet another strike in a couple seasons.
This isn't just about Honey Badger. This is the owners finding yet another way around the CBA.
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Right.NO. We aren't talking the amount of the contract. We're talking about the stipulation that he doesn't rate guaranteed money.
He has proven himself to be irresponsible in the dope dept, and that's a huge understatement. So, he doesn't get the benefit
of being considered a safe bet that he won't make the team disgusted that the guaranteed money won't go up in smoke.
IOW's, despite his talent, he is a doper "flight risk". Like has already been said - the guarantee part is not required.
Do I think they drafted him too high, yeah. But that draft pick doesn't mean that "guaranteed" is part of his contract.
Yes, they already took the chance that they get nothing for their pick ...so, they won't really care, they
had more picks than just the one they used to take a chance on him.
But, there hasn't been a pick taken where he was that didn't receive guaranteed money.
By doing this, they are setting a precedent that the owners are in absolute control and that players have no bargaining chips. Keep this up, and there will be yet another strike in a couple seasons.
This isn't just about Honey Badger. This is the owners finding yet another way around the CBA.
Right.
But, there hasn't been a pick taken where he was that didn't receive guaranteed money.
By doing this, they are setting a precedent that the owners are in absolute control and that players have no bargaining chips. Keep this up, and there will be yet another strike in a couple seasons.
This isn't just about Honey Badger. This is the owners finding yet another way around the CBA.
The "Non-guaranteed" aspect of NFL contracts have been in place for decades....the NFL has gone through many CBA negotiations....and they have never held out for guaranteed contracts
And I doubt hardly that they are going to use this guy as the example for their labor demands.
Hell....with a new CBA in effect for like another 8-10 years, this guys career will probably be over by the time the next CBA negotiations come up.
And...these owners are NOT finding a way around the CBA.....quite the opposite. They are implementing the CBA.
And maybe what precedent they set is that guys that get suspended from their school programs, that fail multiple drug tests before they are drafted.....must now play to get paid.
Again, remember, the bonuses that guys get up from are just so the agents can get a lump sum payment for negotiating an agreement.
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Right.
But, there hasn't been a pick taken where he was that didn't receive guaranteed money.
By doing this, they are setting a precedent that the owners are in absolute control and that players have no bargaining chips. Keep this up, and there will be yet another strike in a couple seasons.
This isn't just about Honey Badger. This is the owners finding yet another way around the CBA.
The "Non-guaranteed" aspect of NFL contracts have been in place for decades....the NFL has gone through many CBA negotiations....and they have never held out for guaranteed contracts
And I doubt hardly that they are going to use this guy as the example for their labor demands.
Hell....with a new CBA in effect for like another 8-10 years, this guys career will probably be over by the time the next CBA negotiations come up.
And...these owners are NOT finding a way around the CBA.....quite the opposite. They are implementing the CBA.
And maybe what precedent they set is that guys that get suspended from their school programs, that fail multiple drug tests before they are drafted.....must now play to get paid.
Again, remember, the bonuses that guys get up from are just so the agents can get a lump sum payment for negotiating an agreement.
The "Non-guaranteed" aspect of NFL contracts have been in place for decades....the NFL has gone through many CBA negotiations....and they have never held out for guaranteed contracts
And I doubt hardly that they are going to use this guy as the example for their labor demands.
Hell....with a new CBA in effect for like another 8-10 years, this guys career will probably be over by the time the next CBA negotiations come up.
And...these owners are NOT finding a way around the CBA.....quite the opposite. They are implementing the CBA.
And maybe what precedent they set is that guys that get suspended from their school programs, that fail multiple drug tests before they are drafted.....must now play to get paid.
Again, remember, the bonuses that guys get up from are just so the agents can get a lump sum payment for negotiating an agreement.
The bonuses guys get up front are collateral. The NFL is the only league in which the salaries aren't guaranteed.
Mathieu can be cut for any number of reasons, not just his off the field problems, and then he sees no money.
What is really happening is the Cardinals doesn't want the 49ers to get him, so they panicked and drafted him way too early,
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Every NFL contract is non-guaranteed, that's the nature of the business. Every dollar in the contract is only given if you're on the gameday roster.
He should be glad he's being offered a contract and not cut like these guys.
He's given a chance.. frankly, people defending Tyrann are not being fair to the NFL athletes who played by the rules in college. They don't have to like or even agree with the rules - but if a career in football is the goal, the path is defined to not include weed.
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Playing by the rules in college? That would make sense IF he was using PEDs, adderol or steroids or something like that, he wasn't. He was using a substance that many "believe" makes you slow. So please quit acting like he was cheating or something. He simply used an alternate substance to alcohol. That is all.
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By this judgement anyone who every failed a drug test or broke an NCAA rule shouldn't get guaranteed money. Shit why should haveone with real injury concerns get guaranteed money. The object of this desicion is that the Cards are trying to protect themselves. Why shouldn't the Raiders protect themselves against Hayden who they over drafted. Why shouldn't the Steelers protect themselves against Jones incase his spine injury is real.
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man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
Why on God's green earth would you think that going to NY is seeing "the real world" any more than seeing things on a farm?
Having been all over this nation from Chatanika to Coral Bay, from Lubec to Makaha I can tell you that both are just as real as the other.
Why on God's green earth would you think that going to NY is seeing "the real world" any more than seeing things on a farm?
Having been all over this nation from Chatanika to Coral Bay, from Lubec to Makaha I can tell you that both are just as real as the other.
really? i didn't know that.
guess i'd have to be a lawyer to figure that out.
it was a joke.
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Playing by the rules in college? That would make sense IF he was using PEDs, adderol or steroids or something like that, he wasn't. He was using a substance that many "believe" makes you slow. So please quit acting like he was cheating or something. He simply used an alternate substance to alcohol. That is all.
Playing by the rules in college? That would make sense IF
He used a drug that's banned, and failed dozens of drug tests. You have the right to work to change laws -- but never to simply break the ones you don't like.
When you're caught speeding, the cop has zero interest in your assumption that the speed limit should be higher because you're driving a car that can handle the speed -- you're paying the fine and the points, period.
Mathieu was also arrested last October for possession of marijuana, preventing his reinstatement to LSU in 2012.
Arizona's well within their right to take this position. The law is what it is -- and note that Peter King this morning verified that [at least what he was told] Arizona's getting their way with this: zero guaranteed money is happening.
Look, if you personally want to run a professional sports league with weed being within the rules - go for it, and good luck. But that league isn't the NFL, and based on dollars invested.. the NFL isn't changing any time soon.
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Why on God's green earth would you think that going to NY is seeing "the real world" any more than seeing things on a farm?
Having been all over this nation from Chatanika to Coral Bay, from Lubec to Makaha I can tell you that both are just as real as the other.
really? i didn't know that.
guess i'd have to be a lawyer to figure that out.
it was a joke.
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man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
Im sorry but NY blows. It's just like every other big city just 10 times more expensive. I guess that's why New Yorkers think that its so cool because it costs more or some crap.
Id rather live in bfe then have to go back to that place again.
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man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
Im sorry but NY blows. It's just like every other big city just 10 times more expensive. I guess that's why New Yorkers think that its so cool because it costs more or some crap.
Id rather live in bfe then have to go back to that place again.
Im sorry but NY blows. It's just like every other big city just 10 times more expensive. I guess that's why New Yorkers think that its so cool because it costs more or some crap.
Id rather live in bfe then have to go back to that place again.really? me too?
i can find you the book big cities for dummies if you want me to look it up.
cuz i happened to fall into a rent-controlled apartment that affords me to live in one of the wealthiest counties in the country (sorry huron county you didn't make the list) and go out at 4 am and get a sandwich is somehow hampering you?
yeah NY blows. so does ohio , new hamphire, missourri and colorado......NOT!
ever hear of them? doubt it. have you been anywhere outside your grandma's 'no fly-zone'? been everywhere done everything. will never toast a glass to some bullshit that you belive in cuz coach hardy told you that that was the way.
hey sign tebow. he right up your alley.
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man, it must be lonely on that farm. ever think of coming out of the 'barn' and seeing the real world?
drive your tractor to ny and i'll open your eyes up (wide) for just a day or two.
i'll make sure you get home ok.
Im sorry but NY blows. It's just like every other big city just 10 times more expensive. I guess that's why New Yorkers think that its so cool because it costs more or some crap.
Id rather live in bfe then have to go back to that place again.
Im sorry but NY blows. It's just like every other big city just 10 times more expensive. I guess that's why New Yorkers think that its so cool because it costs more or some crap.
Id rather live in bfe then have to go back to that place again.
betcha jack lambert used to come here for brunch at ziggy's on 1st. you on the other hand would got to bob evans on 11th.
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Don't know...I met Jack Lambert back in the day at Kent....
at the Robin Hood Inn. I think he was more of a Bob Evans guy.
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Don't know...I met Jack Lambert back in the day at Kent....
at the Robin Hood Inn. I think he was more of a Bob Evans guy.
Don't know...I met Jack Lambert back in the day at Kent....
at the Robin Hood Inn. I think he was more of a Bob Evans guy.
a major reason for going back to ohio is the number of arbys and bob evans that are there. (man i miss that shit).
can't find a good heart valve cloggin joint in ny anymore. hell bloomberg (being jewish) is the biggest self help nazi on the east coast.
a 32oz pepsi? no sir. not here.
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