Losses Vs. Gains Comparison
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And here is this: Guess who is #1:
At no point did I say Joe Haden wasn't a top 5 corner.
I understand that most of your attention span is now devoted to trying to rouse and maintain an erection, but at least try and remember what argument you're having and with who. Okay, grandpa?
It is interesting to see that you claim there weren't any good CBs available for us to get and then you link to an article that contains most of the corners I mentioned and excludes Sheldon Brown.
At no point did I say Joe Haden wasn't a top 5 corner.
I understand that most of your attention span is now devoted to trying to rouse and maintain an erection, but at least try and remember what argument you're having and with who. Okay, grandpa?
It is interesting to see that you claim there weren't any good CBs available for us to get and then you link to an article that contains most of the corners I mentioned and excludes Sheldon Brown.
And you are saying that devoting time to rouse and maintain an erection is not a good thing?
I mean, when people tell me to Get Fucked, my response is "I'd love to"
Don't get me wrong....I think Sheldon Brown was terrible. When I saw some places that said that he was like in the Top 5 available FA CBs I said: you must be kidding.
And that is my whole point.....every opinion has an asshole and every asshole has an opinion.
I would have liked to see this team do better with its secondary FA choices.
But, they didn't.
So, for me, I will merely hope that what moves they did make will turn out.
So, if you want to jump from the High Street Bridge over what moves they did not make, be my guest. I will carry on.
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Yep you really got us, you drafted a undersized safety with a history of having concussions. I'm guessing he will start for you game 1, I would be impressed if he makes it the whole season.
Troy Polamalu is only 5'10 and Sharmarko Thomas has a 41 inch vertical. Polamalu had a history of concussions and we've all seen how that turned out. They wouldn't have traded up to draft Thomas if they were worried about the concussions.
Zombo, your point is moot. You've had a pick in the top 10 for a better part of a decade. Mingo is still a unknown, you then list Thomas, Haden and Richardson. I'm also not worried. The Browns will still finish last in the division. You also listed a bunch of players previously that are getting long in the tooth but in each instance there is a young buck or two waiting in the wings. The Steelers draft each April with that in mind and it's worked pretty well. Browns fans year after year are hilariously delusional.
Troy Polamalu is only 5'10 and Sharmarko Thomas has a 41 inch vertical. Polamalu had a history of concussions and we've all seen how that turned out. They wouldn't have traded up to draft Thomas if they were worried about the concussions.
Zombo, your point is moot. You've had a pick in the top 10 for a better part of a decade. Mingo is still a unknown, you then list Thomas, Haden and Richardson. I'm also not worried. The Browns will still finish last in the division. You also listed a bunch of players previously that are getting long in the tooth but in each instance there is a young buck or two waiting in the wings. The Steelers draft each April with that in mind and it's worked pretty well. Browns fans year after year are hilariously delusional.
The Browns last 6 first round draft picks have been:
Barkevious Mingo
Trent Richardson
Phil Taylor
Joe Haden
Alex Mack
Joe Thomas
(edit note: forgot BW3...also a first rounder)
The Steelers last 6 draft picks have been:
Jarvis Jones
David DeCastro
Cameron Heyward
Maurkice Pouncey
Evander Hood
Rashard Mendenhall.
I don't know about anyone else, but under no circumstances would I trade even up the Browns choices for the Steelers choices.
And of course your retort will be: why have the Steelers won so much more than the Browns.
Simple....because, no doubt your "old" guys were undoubtedly a lot better than the Browns old guys.
Yea,
Santonio Holmes was better than Braylon Edwards
Heath Miller did turn out better than K2
Casey Hampton was better than Gerard Warren
Polamalu turned out better than Courtney Brown
BR turned out better thanBrady Quinn
and Steelers 2d and later round picks turned out better overall than Browns 2 round picks.
The Browns had beauties like Brian Robiskie, MoMass, David Veikune, Eric Wright, Brodney Pool, Sean Jones, Chaun Thompson, Andre Davis, Quincy Morgan.
I think though the Browns have done much better recently in the second round with guys like D'Qwell Jackson, TJ Ward, Jaball Sheard and Mitchell Scwartz.
Compare those to the like Marcus Gilbert, Jason Worlds, Limas Sweed, and Lamar Woodley, Steelers second rounders.
Personally I think the Browns recent first and second round talent acquisitions have been much better than the Steelers. (and, of course, they should be...given their positioning)
One thing the Steelers have had to go along with their talent however: far superior coaching.
Admittedly the Tomlin/Cowher/LeBeau "team" has far surpassed the likes of Pat Shurmur/Eric Mangini/Romeo Crennel.....no one could argue about that.
And, needless to say, this advantage has extended to the front office. At least, ownership for sure. And Holmgren was certainly a waste. But I think Tom Heckert did a fine job here....and is to some extent responsible for the edge in talent the Browns may maintain at this point.
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Zombo, your point is moot. You've had a pick in the top 10 for a better part of a decade. Mingo is still a unknown, you then list Thomas, Haden and Richardson. I'm also not worried. The Browns will still finish last in the division. You also listed a bunch of players previously that are getting long in the tooth but in each instance there is a young buck or two waiting in the wings. The Steelers draft each April with that in mind and it's worked pretty well. Browns fans year after year are hilariously delusional.
Vag, what you're not getting is that, Yes, Joe Thomas has been a great tackle on a bad team ... but now, you keep saying we haven't won with our top ten picks, like they haven't made a difference. I reiterate: Haden is 24, Richardson 22, Mingo, 22. They are just getting started. Not only is the jury not out yet on this Browns regime, they aren't even in session. New players, new owner, new coaching staff, new front office ... the only thing that is same the about past past Browns failures are the hiddens young gems that we kept: guys like Rubin, DQ Jackson and Thomas, all signed for the future and all under 30.
If you are trying to say the Browns have been a failure from 1999-2012, no one is arguing you. If you are telling me that you would trade the 2013 Steeler roster for the 2013 Browns roster, you are smoking crack.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Vag, what you're not getting is that, Yes, Joe Thomas has been a great tackle on a bad team ... but now, you keep saying we haven't won with our top ten picks, like they haven't made a difference. I reiterate: Haden is 24, Richardson 22, Mingo, 22. They are just getting started. Not only is the jury not out yet on this Browns regime, they aren't even in session. New players, new owner, new coaching staff, new front office ... the only thing that is same the about past past Browns failures are the hiddens young gems that we kept: guys like Rubin, DQ Jackson and Thomas, all signed for the future and all under 30.
If you are trying to say the Browns have been a failure from 1999-2012, no one is arguing you. If you are telling me that you would trade the 2013 Steeler roster for the 2013 Browns roster, you are smoking crack.
Zombo
Smoking crack? I'd take the Steelers roster ten times out of ten over the Browns roster and so would a majority of the football watching population. If you think otherwise it's you smoking crack.
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Zombo said:
Vag, what you're not getting is that, Yes, Joe Thomas has been a great tackle on a bad team ... but now, you keep saying we haven't won with our top ten picks, like they haven't made a difference. I reiterate: Haden is 24, Richardson 22, Mingo, 22. They are just getting started. Not only is the jury not out yet on this Browns regime, they aren't even in session. New players, new owner, new coaching staff, new front office ... the only thing that is same the about past past Browns failures are the hiddens young gems that we kept: guys like Rubin, DQ Jackson and Thomas, all signed for the future and all under 30.
If you are trying to say the Browns have been a failure from 1999-2012, no one is arguing you. If you are telling me that you would trade the 2013 Steeler roster for the 2013 Browns roster, you are smoking crack.
Zombo
Smoking crack? I'd take the Steelers roster ten times out of ten over the Browns roster and so would a majority of the football watching population. If you think otherwise it's you smoking crack.
Smoking crack? I'd take the Steelers roster ten times out of ten over the Browns roster and so would a majority of the football watching population. If you think otherwise it's you smoking crack.
LOl,,,Such an ignorant fool you are...Everyone here knows it but you...Hilarious...
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Zombo said:
Vag, what you're not getting is that, Yes, Joe Thomas has been a great tackle on a bad team ... but now, you keep saying we haven't won with our top ten picks, like they haven't made a difference. I reiterate: Haden is 24, Richardson 22, Mingo, 22. They are just getting started. Not only is the jury not out yet on this Browns regime, they aren't even in session. New players, new owner, new coaching staff, new front office ... the only thing that is same the about past past Browns failures are the hiddens young gems that we kept: guys like Rubin, DQ Jackson and Thomas, all signed for the future and all under 30.
If you are trying to say the Browns have been a failure from 1999-2012, no one is arguing you. If you are telling me that you would trade the 2013 Steeler roster for the 2013 Browns roster, you are smoking crack.
Zombo
Smoking crack? I'd take the Steelers roster ten times out of ten over the Browns roster and so would a majority of the football watching population. If you think otherwise it's you smoking crack.
Smoking crack? I'd take the Steelers roster ten times out of ten over the Browns roster and so would a majority of the football watching population. If you think otherwise it's you smoking crack.
Then, I assume that will chime in on the Dueling Depth Chart thread, which deals with precisely that question....and there you can refute Zombo at each and every position on the team....or, you may actually find out that he is perfectly correct.
Gopher it.
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LOl,,,Such an ignorant fool you are...Everyone here knows it but you...Hilarious...
Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.
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You see this is where you get yourself in trouble,
You automatically assume because troy is the same height and similar weight that the sham is going to be the same guy. Troy was projected 1st the best safety in his draft, don't remember troy having concussion problems at cal but whatever, he was projected 1st overall and taken 1st at his position. Sham was taken in the 4th because he is at his peak for body size and "has" a concussion problem. Also the steelers where desperate for a safety and didn't stay the course "Drafting the Steelers way" and panicked.. blew their load.. and made a desperate attempt at grabbing a safety, meanwhile getting older and trading away next years 3rd to the browns who will continue to stay young.
Also you project your missiles, and sledge hammer type players as the second coming of Christ and dismiss ours as unproven, because the steelers drafted them.
Fuck that. No one has taken a snap yet. You can't have it both ways.
We have reminded you and repeatedly tried to show you that the steelers past few drafts have sucked. Take an objective look without using words like; shown glimpses of being good, some good upside, etc. Can you do it?
The same could be said for a lot of us, too.
There's not too many purely objective views on this board, one way or the other.
The same could be said for a lot of us, too.
There's not too many purely objective views on this board, one way or the other.
yeah your right but most of us do take the glasses off.
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The same could be said for a lot of us, too.
There's not too many purely objective views on this board, one way or the other.
yeah your right but most of us do take the glasses off.
yeah your right but most of us do take the glasses off.
That is a bold faced lie. There are people here that post that don't wear the glasses BUT it's the guys that hardly post. The usual suspects wear the Brown colored glasses full time.
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LOl,,,Such an ignorant fool you are...Everyone here knows it but you...Hilarious...
Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.
Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.
Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...
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Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.
Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...
Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...
I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...
I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.
I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.
Again...more cry baby excuses from Little Lord Fauntleroy...You act like a spoiled rich brat who cant get his way..."WAAAHHHH"...When something inspires Me. I contribute whatever the fuck I want to contribute...And talk about zero substance...you epitomize it,
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I never said he was going to be troy, what i did say wad troy is also small for a safety and it hasnt effected his game. You deduced the rest all on your own. The Steelers also werent "desperate" for a safety they just really wanted Thomas and apparently knew he wasnt going to last until their next pick. They re getting a third round comp for wallace next year, but even still they didnt trade that third for a aging veteran they traded it for a rookie so your point about age is bogus. They got the additional player this year rather than next. Simple math.You see this is where you get yourself in trouble,
You automatically assume because troy is the same height and similar weight that the sham is going to be the same guy. Troy was projected 1st the best safety in his draft, don't remember troy having concussion problems at cal but whatever, he was projected 1st overall and taken 1st at hios position. Sham was taken in the 4th because he is at his peak for body size and "has" a concussion problem. Also the steelers where desperate for a safety and didn't stay the course "Drafting the Steelers way" and panicked.. blew their load.. and made a desperate attempt at grabbing a safety, meanwhile getting older and trading away next years 3rd to the browns who will continue to stay young.
Also you project your missiles, and sledge hammer type players as the second coming of Christ and dismiss ours as unproven, because the steelers drafted them.
Fuck that. No one has taken a snap yet. You can't have it
ee ways.
We have reminded you and repeatedly tried to show you that the steelers past few drafts have sucked. Take an objective look without using words like; shown glimpses of being good, some good upside, etc. Can you do it?
I never said he was going to be troy, what i did say wad troy is also small for a safety and it hasnt effected his game. You deduced the rest all on your own. The Steelers also werent "desperate" for a safety they just really wanted Thomas and apparently knew he wasnt going to last until their next pick. They re getting a third round comp for wallace next year, but even still they didnt trade that third for a aging veteran they traded it for a rookie so your point about age is bogus. They got the additional player this year rather than next. Simple math.
with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?
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I never said he was going to be troy, what i did say wad troy is also small for a safety and it hasnt effected his game. You deduced the rest all on your own. The Steelers also werent "desperate" for a safety they just really wanted Thomas and apparently knew he wasnt going to last until their next pick. They re getting a third round comp for wallace next year, but even still they didnt trade that third for a aging veteran they traded it for a rookie so your point about age is bogus. They got the additional player this year rather than next. Simple math.
with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?
with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?
Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
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with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?
Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
Who are they? they havent even played and after looking them up they were UDFA's So I was right they blew there load on Sham.
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with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?
Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
All of the Browns players are "promising" too.
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Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
All of the Browns players are "promising" too.
All of the Browns players are "promising" too.
According to this asshole (vagisil), only players drafted by the Stools have promise.
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with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?
Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
Thomas has a chance to be a good NFL player and was a very good player in college. Absolutely horrific decision by that idiiot Lombardi to trade the Browns' pick to the Steelers. We're going to regret that. But this kind of stuff and these rotten decisions that made the Browns a crummy team for years. Other teams get the draft right. The Browns are inept at it.
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Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.
Thomas has a chance to be a good NFL player and was a very good player in college. Absolutely horrific decision by that idiiot Lombardi to trade the Browns' pick to the Steelers. We're going to regret that. But this kind of stuff and these rotten decisions that made the Browns a crummy team for years. Other teams get the draft right. The Browns are inept at it.
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Thomas has a chance to be a good NFL player and was a very good player in college. Absolutely horrific decision by that idiiot Lombardi to trade the Browns' pick to the Steelers. We're going to regret that. But this kind of stuff and these rotten decisions that made the Browns a crummy team for years. Other teams get the draft right. The Browns are inept at it.
Why do all of you dickheads think you know more about football than Mike Lombardi?
And since Joe Banner hired him I guess you think you know more about football than him too?
And why are you saddling an entirely new administration with past Browns failures?
These guys have absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the the lerner years. Nothing.
Zombo
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Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...
I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.
I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.
Endymion says you are the bat shit crazy one for thinking Ike Taylor is anything but a POS.
Your biggest problem is that you are living in LaLa Land by thinking that some players on your team are what they are not.
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