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  • @vagitron said:

    Smoking crack? I'd take the Steelers roster ten times out of ten over the Browns roster and so would a majority of the football watching population. If you think otherwise it's you smoking crack.

    LOl,,,Such an ignorant fool you are...Everyone here knows it but you...Hilarious...

    @nickers said:

    LOl,,,Such an ignorant fool you are...Everyone here knows it but you...Hilarious...

    Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    You see this is where you get yourself in trouble,

    You automatically assume because troy is the same height and similar weight that the sham is going to be the same guy. Troy was projected 1st the best safety in his draft, don't remember troy having concussion problems at cal but whatever, he was projected 1st overall and taken 1st at his position. Sham was taken in the 4th because he is at his peak for body size and "has" a concussion problem. Also the steelers where desperate for a safety and didn't stay the course "Drafting the Steelers way" and panicked.. blew their load.. and made a desperate attempt at grabbing a safety, meanwhile getting older and trading away next years 3rd to the browns who will continue to stay young.

    Also you project your missiles, and sledge hammer type players as the second coming of Christ and dismiss ours as unproven, because the steelers drafted them.

    Fuck that. No one has taken a snap yet. You can't have it both ways.

    We have reminded you and repeatedly tried to show you that the steelers past few drafts have sucked. Take an objective look without using words like; shown glimpses of being good, some good upside, etc. Can you do it?

    The same could be said for a lot of us, too.

    There's not too many purely objective views on this board, one way or the other.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The same could be said for a lot of us, too.

    There's not too many purely objective views on this board, one way or the other.

    yeah your right but most of us do take the glasses off.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The same could be said for a lot of us, too.

    There's not too many purely objective views on this board, one way or the other.

    yeah your right but most of us do take the glasses off.

    @erie-dawg said:

    yeah your right but most of us do take the glasses off.

    That is a bold faced lie. There are people here that post that don't wear the glasses BUT it's the guys that hardly post. The usual suspects wear the Brown colored glasses full time.

  • @nickers said:

    LOl,,,Such an ignorant fool you are...Everyone here knows it but you...Hilarious...

    Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.

    @vagitron said:

    Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.

    Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...

  • @vagitron said:

    Dude, do you talk football here? Or do you just follow me around and respond to me. I read quite a bit here and rarely see you contribute much of anything worthwhile, certainly nothing notable. It's usually some super weak "slam" followed by a knock on whomevers intelligence with absolutely zero to back up your claims. I don't back up all my claims but when I'm asked to I do with clear and concise responses. You just type LOL a few times and assume you have the upper hand. Haden is a good corner, your defensive line is very deep and you have a few quality starters. Joe Thomas is a very solid LT although I think his "dominance" isn't as evidence as it once was and he's a holding expert. (although most good tackles seem to hold) Richardson has the tools and I'm a fan of Mack. Schwartz could shape up to be solid as well. Let me put it this way. Joe Haden would get significant playing time on the steelers, so would Phil Taylor and Maybe Sheard (I'm not a big hood fan). Richardson until we as football fans know what to expect from Bell would be the starter for the Steelers. Jackson would also man Footes spot at ILB BUT he would NOT be above Timmons. Gordon would be the 3rd receiver (he did have a ton of garbage time yardage, it can't be denied) There isn't another person on the roster for the Browns that would start for the Steelers. Ward isn't beating out Clark or Polamalu (unless Troy isn't healthy) and we don't know what we have in Shamarko. However for the sake of argument let's say that Ward also starters. If we don't include Gordon because he'd be 3rd IMO that's 6 players that would see the field for the Steelers on either side of the Ball. Obviously this is my opinion but I'd bet you could go to any number of unbiased sources and pose the question and you'd hear back similar. Everyone wants to talk about how old the steelers are but at each one of those positions there is a guy that was highly drafted waiting in the wings OR already poised to start. Shark Thomas and Robert Golden are there at safety. Cam Heyward is there at defensive end. Corner is a bit of a unknown after Ike retires but they are very high on hawthorne and Carnell Lake is a secondary guru. Anyone sitting back and saying to themselves "oh yea I'd take the Browns roster" is crazy. Seriously crazy.

    Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...

    @nickers said:

    Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...

    I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.

  • @nickers said:

    Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...

    I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.

    @vagitron said:

    I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.

    Again...more cry baby excuses from Little Lord Fauntleroy...You act like a spoiled rich brat who cant get his way..."WAAAHHHH"...When something inspires Me. I contribute whatever the fuck I want to contribute...And talk about zero substance...you epitomize it,

  • @erie-dawg said:

    You see this is where you get yourself in trouble,

    You automatically assume because troy is the same height and similar weight that the sham is going to be the same guy. Troy was projected 1st the best safety in his draft, don't remember troy having concussion problems at cal but whatever, he was projected 1st overall and taken 1st at hios position. Sham was taken in the 4th because he is at his peak for body size and "has" a concussion problem. Also the steelers where desperate for a safety and didn't stay the course "Drafting the Steelers way" and panicked.. blew their load.. and made a desperate attempt at grabbing a safety, meanwhile getting older and trading away next years 3rd to the browns who will continue to stay young.

    Also you project your missiles, and sledge hammer type players as the second coming of Christ and dismiss ours as unproven, because the steelers drafted them.

    Fuck that. No one has taken a snap yet. You can't have it

    ee ways.

    We have reminded you and repeatedly tried to show you that the steelers past few drafts have sucked. Take an objective look without using words like; shown glimpses of being good, some good upside, etc. Can you do it?

    I never said he was going to be troy, what i did say wad troy is also small for a safety and it hasnt effected his game. You deduced the rest all on your own. The Steelers also werent "desperate" for a safety they just really wanted Thomas and apparently knew he wasnt going to last until their next pick. They re getting a third round comp for wallace next year, but even still they didnt trade that third for a aging veteran they traded it for a rookie so your point about age is bogus. They got the additional player this year rather than next. Simple math.

    @vagitron said:

    I never said he was going to be troy, what i did say wad troy is also small for a safety and it hasnt effected his game. You deduced the rest all on your own. The Steelers also werent "desperate" for a safety they just really wanted Thomas and apparently knew he wasnt going to last until their next pick. They re getting a third round comp for wallace next year, but even still they didnt trade that third for a aging veteran they traded it for a rookie so your point about age is bogus. They got the additional player this year rather than next. Simple math.

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

  • @vagitron said:

    I never said he was going to be troy, what i did say wad troy is also small for a safety and it hasnt effected his game. You deduced the rest all on your own. The Steelers also werent "desperate" for a safety they just really wanted Thomas and apparently knew he wasnt going to last until their next pick. They re getting a third round comp for wallace next year, but even still they didnt trade that third for a aging veteran they traded it for a rookie so your point about age is bogus. They got the additional player this year rather than next. Simple math.

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

    @erie-dawg said:

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    @vagitron said:

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    Who are they? they havent even played and after looking them up they were UDFA's So I was right they blew there load on Sham.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    @vagitron said:

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    All of the Browns players are "promising" too.

  • @vagitron said:

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    All of the Browns players are "promising" too.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    All of the Browns players are "promising" too.

    According to this asshole (vagisil), only players drafted by the Stools have promise.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    @vagitron said:

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    Thomas has a chance to be a good NFL player and was a very good player in college. Absolutely horrific decision by that idiiot Lombardi to trade the Browns' pick to the Steelers. We're going to regret that. But this kind of stuff and these rotten decisions that made the Browns a crummy team for years. Other teams get the draft right. The Browns are inept at it.

  • @vagitron said:

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    Thomas has a chance to be a good NFL player and was a very good player in college. Absolutely horrific decision by that idiiot Lombardi to trade the Browns' pick to the Steelers. We're going to regret that. But this kind of stuff and these rotten decisions that made the Browns a crummy team for years. Other teams get the draft right. The Browns are inept at it.

    Skeptical2013 said:

    Thomas has a chance to be a good NFL player and was a very good player in college. Absolutely horrific decision by that idiiot Lombardi to trade the Browns' pick to the Steelers. We're going to regret that. But this kind of stuff and these rotten decisions that made the Browns a crummy team for years. Other teams get the draft right. The Browns are inept at it.

    Why do all of you dickheads think you know more about football than Mike Lombardi?

    And since Joe Banner hired him I guess you think you know more about football than him too?

    And why are you saddling an entirely new administration with past Browns failures?

    These guys have absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the the lerner years. Nothing.

    Zombo

  • @nickers said:

    Since when did you talk football?..all you talk about how great you think your current roster of steelers are..and you contribute nothing but rhetorical garbage...yeah...once in awhile like a blind squirrel you might post a half intelligent post once in a blue moon....Ask your own bretheren what a tool they think you are...I bet none of them have the balls to stand behind a prick head like you,or...Are too embarrassed to be associated with an educated loser like you...wipe that elitest smug off your face and quit acting like your more "knowledgable" and "better" than everyone else cuz your not...your opinions are worth exactly what mine and everyone elses is..it's worth 0...

    I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.

    @vagitron said:

    I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.

    Endymion says you are the bat shit crazy one for thinking Ike Taylor is anything but a POS.

    Your biggest problem is that you are living in LaLa Land by thinking that some players on your team are what they are not.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    @vagitron said:

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    As someone said: everyone drafted has "promise". Mingo has promise/Jarvis Jones has promise. Thomas has promise, Leon McFadden has promise (I suppose you too think that San Diego St. is a basketball school)

    I mean hell, they are talking about a kid in the 8th grade who has promise....and he has at least 7 more years of school before him:

    http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/2/25/4028618/alabama-lsu-football-recruiting-8th-grader-dylan-moses

  • @vagitron said:

    I don't act like I'm better than anyone else. I just have a strong opinion and a firm one. I'd also happily back up my claims but hell all you have to do is watch football and you'd know a lot of the claims made around here are nuts. I'd also love for my own "brethren" to speak up if they think I'm a tool box. There aren't many, if any at all here anymore. Either way you should try contributing something worth while, rather than posting like the post above. A lot of name calling and zero substance.

    Endymion says you are the bat shit crazy one for thinking Ike Taylor is anything but a POS.

    Your biggest problem is that you are living in LaLa Land by thinking that some players on your team are what they are not.

    @the-gipper said:

    Endymion says you are the bat shit crazy one for thinking Ike Taylor is anything but a POS.

    Your biggest problem is that you are living in LaLa Land by thinking that some players on your team are what they are not.

    Right and numb nuts just finished saying at some point to day that hes "one year slower" the guy still runs a 4.3 or faster and epitomizes hard work in the offseason. If he were so bad they would have let him walk.

  • Skeptical2013 said:

    Thomas has a chance to be a good NFL player and was a very good player in college. Absolutely horrific decision by that idiiot Lombardi to trade the Browns' pick to the Steelers. We're going to regret that. But this kind of stuff and these rotten decisions that made the Browns a crummy team for years. Other teams get the draft right. The Browns are inept at it.

    Why do all of you dickheads think you know more about football than Mike Lombardi?

    And since Joe Banner hired him I guess you think you know more about football than him too?

    And why are you saddling an entirely new administration with past Browns failures?

    These guys have absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the the lerner years. Nothing.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Why do all of you dickheads think you know more about football than Mike Lombardi?

    And since Joe Banner hired him I guess you think you know more about football than him too?

    And why are you saddling an entirely new administration with past Browns failures?

    These guys have absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the the lerner years. Nothing.

    Zombo

    Perfectly stated! Thank you Zombo.

    Mike

  • @the-gipper said:

    Endymion says you are the bat shit crazy one for thinking Ike Taylor is anything but a POS.

    Your biggest problem is that you are living in LaLa Land by thinking that some players on your team are what they are not.

    Right and numb nuts just finished saying at some point to day that hes "one year slower" the guy still runs a 4.3 or faster and epitomizes hard work in the offseason. If he were so bad they would have let him walk.

    @vagitron said:

    Right and numb nuts just finished saying at some point to day that hes "one year slower" the guy still runs a 4.3 or faster and epitomizes hard work in the offseason. If he were so bad they would have let him walk.

    Well, when you and Shrike figure out whether or not he sucks or not, let us know.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    with out looking at the steelers depth chart who do they have? ryan clark? isn't he a free agent next year on a cap straped team?

    Outside of Clark and Troy they have Robert Golden a promising second year and Shark Thomas. Plus DaMon-Cromartie Smith and I'm not 100% certain on Clark but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving. He will retire a Steeler and if push comes to shove he'll be a home town discount kind of guy. Homer or not watch Shark Thomas tape. The guy is a damn missile/tackling machine. Just always around the ball.

    @vagitron said:

    but everyone said they were cap strapped this season and they still went out and signed a few free agents and had enough to sign their draft picks. Willie Colon post draft also took around 5M off the books and I believe Polamalu is going to restructure. I'm also not worried at all about Clark leaving.

    After looking up your free agent signings, I personally wouldn't have even mentioned it, it looks like shit. They signed Bruce Gradkowski was that what you were talking about? I know they back loaded several contracts over the last several years, is this season when the dam breaks?