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10 Commandments In Oklahoma School

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  • Here's the story:



    The little town of Muldrow, Okla., is in turmoil after a national nonprofit organization reportedly threatened a lawsuit if postings of the Ten Commandments aren't removed from the walls of a public high school.


    A letter from the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation (FRFF) was sent to school officials after an anonymous student contacted the organization aboutthe postings of the Ten Commandments at his high school, according to multiple reports.


    In the letter, the nonprofit group, which advocates for the separation of church and state, asked the school to pull the postings down. The foundation indicated that a lawsuit would result if the school refused, the Sequoyah County Times reported Friday.


    Ever since the letter arrived, the community has been up in arms.


    Multiple petitions have been signed by hundreds of people, pray-ins have been held at the school, pro-Christian messages lit up Twitter with the hashtag #FightForFaith, and church officials and politicians have railed against the request to remove the religious postings.


    "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please," said Republican state Rep. John Bennett, according to the Sequoyah County Times.


    "It's Christianity under attack," Muldrow First Baptist Church Pastor John Mooreinveighed. "It was promised in the scripture [that this would happen].


    A local church even bought hundreds of T-shirts, printed with the Ten Commandments, and offered them for free to students to wear to school.


    The school, for its part, reportedly said students who wore the shirts would be forced to turn them inside out, the Sequoyah County Times reported.


    Meanwhile, the anonymous student who first contacted the FRFF took to Reddit to lament that his classmates have "started to figure out" it was he who sent the letter.


    "All I have received [since then] were dirty looks and an argument with a rather large linebacker," he wrote. "I am not upset at that because I expected that, what I am upset about is the fact that my little sister has been yelled at by a school bus full of brainwashed children."


    Yet in spite of the backlash, it appears the Ten Commandments will probably have to come down.


    Muldrow school administrators who consulted legal experts said that a 1980 court ruling meant the plaques would likely have to be removed, according to the Southwest Times Record.


    In 1980, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a Kentucky statute that had mandated every public school classroom have the Ten Commandments posted on its walls. The ruling has been interpreted to mean public schools cannot have the Ten Commandments on display year-round.


    The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion," a statement that has been interpreted through the years to prohibit governmental preference of one religion over another.


    The Muldrow School Board is scheduled to meet Monday evening to discuss the matter of whether or not to remove the Ten Commandments from school walls, according to the Southwest Times Record

  • Anyone think a 10 Commandments display in a public high school is Constitutional and should be allowed to stay?

  • Anyone think a 10 Commandments display in a public high school is Constitutional and should be allowed to stay?

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Anyone think a 10 Commandments display in a public high school is Constitutional and should be allowed to stay?

    Yes.

    and I'm not even a Christian.

    furthermore I think the people who would spend their time, resources and energy to fight to have it removed are a little bit fucked up.

    not much different than the people who hate queers.

    WSS

  • A letter from the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation (FRFF) was sent to school officials after an anonymous student contacted the organization about the postings of the Ten Commandments at his high school, according to multiple reports

    no need to read any further......

  • its about this! 060-2008-oklahoma-election-results.png

  • I think its just an example of the moral decay of the United States.

  • Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    lrn2constitution

    I emboldened the parts that make the ten commandments in a public school unconstitutional.

  • which, as anyone with a brain can plainly see, has jack shit to do with congress writing a law establishing a religion.

    WSS

  • @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Anyone think a 10 Commandments display in a public high school is Constitutional and should be allowed to stay?

    Yes.

    and I'm not even a Christian.

    furthermore I think the people who would spend their time, resources and energy to fight to have it removed are a little bit fucked up.

    not much different than the people who hate queers.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes.

    and I'm not even a Christian.

    furthermore I think the people who would spend their time, resources and energy to fight to have it removed are a little bit fucked up.

    not much different than the people who hate queers.

    WSS

    It's not like that at all. Not one bit.

    Would you be okay with a bunch of Koran verses being displayed in the same way? Do you think the folks in Oklahoma would be?

  • which, as anyone with a brain can plainly see, has jack shit to do with congress writing a law establishing a religion.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    which, as anyone with a brain can plainly see, has jack shit to do with congress writing a law establishing a religion.

    WSS

    Except that's not how it works. But feel free to explain why this should be considered Constitutional.

  • Don't look at them?

    The fuck.

  • Don't look at them?

    The fuck.

    @legacy-fan said:

    Don't look at them?

    The fuck.

    Go to a religious school?

    The fuck.

  • So far, the only response here is to "deal with it." No one wants to try and argue that it's constitutional? Anyone?

  • Don't look at them?

    The fuck.

    @legacy-fan said:

    Don't look at them?

    The fuck.

    I'd ask you the same thing, Leg. If a Muslim principal wanted to post his Koran verses on the wall right where the kids walk in because he thought "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please" ...you'd be good with that?

  • @legacy-fan said:

    Don't look at them?

    The fuck.

    Go to a religious school?

    The fuck.

    @vaportrail said:

    Go to a religious school?

    The fuck.

    Just saying I don't get a sandy vagina every time I drive by a mosque or a Hebrew temple or a Catholic Church or a ______

  • @legacy-fan said:

    Don't look at them?

    The fuck.

    I'd ask you the same thing, Leg. If a Muslim principal wanted to post his Koran verses on the wall right where the kids walk in because he thought "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please" ...you'd be good with that?

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    I'd ask you the same thing, Leg. If a Muslim principal wanted to post his Koran verses on the wall right where the kids walk in because he thought "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please" ...you'd be good with that?

    Like this one:

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

    Or this:

    Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

    Probably not.

  • Wow, you guys are missing the point, aren't you?

    This is a PUBLIC school, not some religious establishment you drive by

    Putting up any religious material in this way sends the message that this one religion is the correct one, everything else is wrong. This is just asking for non-Christian kids to take shit. Also the whole separation of church and state thing...

    I was a little worried when the article said they were holding pray ins... I thought that would work.

  • @heckofajobbrownie said:

    I'd ask you the same thing, Leg. If a Muslim principal wanted to post his Koran verses on the wall right where the kids walk in because he thought "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please" ...you'd be good with that?

    Like this one:

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

    Or this:

    Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

    Probably not.

    @legacy-fan said:

    Like this one:

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

    Or this:

    Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

    Probably not.

    Yes yes... and I'm sure there's no Retarded shit in the bible

  • @vaportrail said:

    Go to a religious school?

    The fuck.

    Just saying I don't get a sandy vagina every time I drive by a mosque or a Hebrew temple or a Catholic Church or a ______

    @legacy-fan said:

    Just saying I don't get a sandy vagina every time I drive by a mosque or a Hebrew temple or a Catholic Church or a ______

    That's obviously not the question.

  • @heckofajobbrownie said:

    I'd ask you the same thing, Leg. If a Muslim principal wanted to post his Koran verses on the wall right where the kids walk in because he thought "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please" ...you'd be good with that?

    Like this one:

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

    Or this:

    Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

    Probably not.

    @legacy-fan said:

    Like this one:

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

    Or this:

    Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

    Probably not.

    There you go. Well, at least you're honest. You don't mind the government endorsing a religion in schools as long as it's your religion.