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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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    That was close.

    I always upload my terrorist plans on Drop box to colab with either terrorists about terror. And I post about the terror on Twitter while following other terrorists. Terror

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      Not to nit-pick with the whole Obama-second-coming-of-Hitler/Stalin/Mao agenda going on here, but this was started before he was in office. Hell, in your post you've said that Microsoft was the first to join, in 2007.

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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        That's true Chris. I wonder if someone has that YouTube clip of candidate Obama railing about it then.

        Now? Not so much.

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          Yes and it has expanded greatly under his Presidency.

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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            This should be fun because I don't think anyone in here besides me objected to it at the time.

            I think these are gross and clear violations of the 4th Amendment, but that view has almost become quaint these days. But again, none of these revelations were new to me. They've been doing this stuff for years. We've known about it for years. This is more like a refresher course.

            I'm happy the country is learning - or re-learning - just how much they've traded in liberty for the promise of security. And my guess? It won't be dialed back one single bit.

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              This should be fun because I don't think anyone in here besides me objected to it at the time.

              I think these are gross and clear violations of the 4th Amendment, but that view has almost become quaint these days. But again, none of these revelations were new to me. They've been doing this stuff for years. We've known about it for years. This is more like a refresher course.

              I'm happy the country is learning - or re-learning - just how much they've traded in liberty for the promise of security. And my guess? It won't be dialed back one single bit.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              @heckofajobbrownie said:

              I'm happy the country is learning - or re-learning - just how much they've traded in liberty for the promise of security. And my guess? It won't be dialed back one single bit.

              It's basically a direct trade-off. No security is great when you're talking about your freedom, constitutional rights etc. but when some fundamentalist (of any description) takes your head off with a gun/bomb/sword/potato peeler then people will start to ask questions.

              Frankly, I have nothing to hide, no secrets that I desperately want to keep from the government, so it doesn't bother me one iota. Sure, I'm not going to share my internet history with my mother, but I'm not doing anything illegal.

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                I agree with Chris here. Yeah yeah, slippery slope and all that, but I'm not doing anything illegal.

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                  That was close.

                  I always upload my terrorist plans on Drop box to colab with either terrorists about terror. And I post about the terror on Twitter while following other terrorists. Terror

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                  Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  That was close.

                  I always upload my terrorist plans on Drop box to colab with either terrorists about terror. And I post about the terror on Twitter while following other terrorists. Terror

                  Ahhhh, the old, "well if I am not doing anything wrong, who cares" adage. Dude my father, brother, aunt, Die Hard and other people have been fighting this totalitarian bullshit for a century. It doesn't matter that you are doing nothing "wrong". Pure violation of OUR rights not just YOURS numb nuts.

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                    Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                    http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

                    More lies from this asshole.

                    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      That was close.

                      I always upload my terrorist plans on Drop box to colab with either terrorists about terror. And I post about the terror on Twitter while following other terrorists. Terror

                      Ahhhh, the old, "well if I am not doing anything wrong, who cares" adage. Dude my father, brother, aunt, Die Hard and other people have been fighting this totalitarian bullshit for a century. It doesn't matter that you are doing nothing "wrong". Pure violation of OUR rights not just YOURS numb nuts.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @kosar_for_president said:

                      Ahhhh, the old, "well if I am not doing anything wrong, who cares" adage. Dude my father, brother, aunt, Die Hard and other people have been fighting this totalitarian bullshit for a century. It doesn't matter that you are doing nothing "wrong". Pure violation of OUR rights not just YOURS numb nuts.

                      Its not like they're removing freedom of speech or remote accessing everyone's computer.

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                        I'm with Kosar. "I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care if the government records everything I do on the phone/internet?" Really? Yikes.

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                          http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

                          More lies from this asshole.

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                          S Stewy wrote on last edited by
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                          @kosar_for_president said:

                          http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

                          More lies from this asshole.

                          Stay tuned for the "well, they all lie" defense.

                          The fact is that this fraud has a compilation of lies that far exceed his predecessors...and the media never calls him out on it.

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                          • H heckofajobbrownie

                            I'm with Kosar. "I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care if the government records everything I do on the phone/internet?" Really? Yikes.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @heckofajobbrownie said:

                            I'm with Kosar. "I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care if the government records everything I do on the phone/internet?" Really? Yikes.

                            Are they recording everything? I never said I don't care what they do, I just don't think this is a giant outrage. If it was expanded then we could talk.

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                              How about this, fellas?

                              "I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care if the government records all of my phone conversations and every email, text, video I send, and keeps them in a database for future investigations."

                              Sound good to you? Or would that sound more like East Germany?

                              "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

                              So forget the part about our houses and papers and effects. Forget the "unreasonable" part, the part about warrants, the part about probably cause, and the part where you have to get a judge to swear off on it, or the part about describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                              Other than everything is the goddamn 4th Amendment, this sounds perfectly legal.

                              But hey, it's okay, because they're not "targeting" you.

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                                H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                                And come on, where are all you guys who heard about this last time and were furious ....at the New York Times for publishing the story?

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  The article doesn't say they're recording phone conversations, just call logs.

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                                    I know. I'm asking if you'd be okay with that. You're not doing anything wrong, after all.

                                    Would you?

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      If they were listening in on my calls? I'd be more upset about that. The chances would be slim there would be a reason to spy on me, but i wouldn't like the idea.

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                                        But it's okay if they record every call you made and who it was to, and from where you made it and how long it lasted?

                                        And your calls are different from your emails how? Or how are your calls different from your Skype chats? They've got all of that. All of it.

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                                          How about this, fellas?

                                          "I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care if the government records all of my phone conversations and every email, text, video I send, and keeps them in a database for future investigations."

                                          Sound good to you? Or would that sound more like East Germany?

                                          "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

                                          So forget the part about our houses and papers and effects. Forget the "unreasonable" part, the part about warrants, the part about probably cause, and the part where you have to get a judge to swear off on it, or the part about describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                                          Other than everything is the goddamn 4th Amendment, this sounds perfectly legal.

                                          But hey, it's okay, because they're not "targeting" you.

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                                          S Stewy wrote on last edited by Stewy
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                                          @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                          How about this, fellas?

                                          "I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care if the government records all of my phone conversations and every email, text, video I send, and keeps them in a database for future investigations."

                                          Sound good to you? Or would that sound more like East Germany?

                                          "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

                                          So forget the part about our houses and papers and effects. Forget the "unreasonable" part, the part about warrants, the part about probably cause, and the part where you have to get a judge to swear off on it, or the part about describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                                          Other than everything is the goddamn 4th Amendment, this sounds perfectly legal.

                                          But hey, it's okay, because they're not "targeting" you.

                                          Actually you can look at people in communist countries like Russia having more privacy than "freedom loving" Americans. The IRS and Social Security are agruably violations of the 4th amendment right to secure our papers and effects...by that 9 digit number we all are unconstitutionally forced to possess, the government knows how much money we have, how much we make, where we invest, where we work, what business we are in, how old we are, how much gold we own, if our house is paid for or not, who we borrow from, how many children we have, where we eat, how much land we own, how many houses we own, who we donate to...but nobody looks at that. The right to secure our papers? Riiiiight. Abolish the IRS.

                                          Not trying to hijack the thread, just sayin.

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