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Training Camp News, August 1 (It's August!)

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  • @sisky-fringo said:

    Weeds is known to often throw without the laces, choosing speed over accuracy. possible this is why he throws innacurate balls at times.

    he claims to have worked on eliminating padding the ball before windup--we shall see. but his release, arm mechanics, and speed he gets uncorked are some of his strengths i feel, and better footwork and decision-making quality and quickness can fix a lot of last year's problems.

    @shep said:

    I think his release is just fine. I have to differ here. He doesn't have a big windup.

    He has the dreaded "slow eyes" though. So they say.

    We'll see Thursday nite.... but I know what I saw time after time last year... and just now at NFL.com. It's not "a big wind-up"... just a wind-up... but it's there. One week 15 throw vs WSH he's holding the ball mid-chest... obscurring all of the #3 on the front of his jersey. At first move the top half of the 3 is uncovered and the ball still blocks the bottom half of the 3. In other words at first move the ball went down...

    Can't recover from a first move like that...

    Here's what a quick release looks like... straight to the right shoulder from chest high and then gone...

    @tour2ma said:

    Here's what a quick release looks like... straight to the right shoulder from chest high and then gone...

    Maynard always could get just enough separation.

  • @sisky-fringo said:

    Weeds is known to often throw without the laces, choosing speed over accuracy. possible this is why he throws innacurate balls at times.

    he claims to have worked on eliminating padding the ball before windup--we shall see. but his release, arm mechanics, and speed he gets uncorked are some of his strengths i feel, and better footwork and decision-making quality and quickness can fix a lot of last year's problems.

    @shep said:

    I think his release is just fine. I have to differ here. He doesn't have a big windup.

    He has the dreaded "slow eyes" though. So they say.

    We'll see Thursday nite.... but I know what I saw time after time last year... and just now at NFL.com. It's not "a big wind-up"... just a wind-up... but it's there. One week 15 throw vs WSH he's holding the ball mid-chest... obscurring all of the #3 on the front of his jersey. At first move the top half of the 3 is uncovered and the ball still blocks the bottom half of the 3. In other words at first move the ball went down...

    Can't recover from a first move like that...

    Here's what a quick release looks like... straight to the right shoulder from chest high and then gone...

    @tour2ma said:

    We'll see Thursday nite.... but I know what I saw time after time last year... and just now at NFL.com. It's not "a big wind-up"... just a wind-up... but it's there. One week 15 throw vs WSH he's holding the ball mid-chest... obscurring all of the #3 on the front of his jersey. At first move the top half of the 3 is uncovered and the ball still blocks the bottom half of the 3. In other words at first move the ball went down...

    Can't recover from a first move like that...

    Here's what a quick release looks like... straight to the right shoulder from chest high and then gone...

    Well, it has always been well known that between Namath and Marino they had the quickest release in the game....though, I do notice on a few occasions on that video that Namath also gives a little tap to the ball before he throws it.

  • I am waiting for the "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smells of eldeberries" line. Who will be first?

    @the-gipper said:

    I am waiting for the "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smells of eldeberries" line. Who will be first?

  • @tour2ma said:

    We'll see Thursday nite.... but I know what I saw time after time last year... and just now at NFL.com. It's not "a big wind-up"... just a wind-up... but it's there. One week 15 throw vs WSH he's holding the ball mid-chest... obscurring all of the #3 on the front of his jersey. At first move the top half of the 3 is uncovered and the ball still blocks the bottom half of the 3. In other words at first move the ball went down...

    Can't recover from a first move like that...

    Here's what a quick release looks like... straight to the right shoulder from chest high and then gone...

    Well, it has always been well known that between Namath and Marino they had the quickest release in the game....though, I do notice on a few occasions on that video that Namath also gives a little tap to the ball before he throws it.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, it has always been well known that between Namath and Marino they had the quickest release in the game....though, I do notice on a few occasions on that video that Namath also gives a little tap to the ball before he throws it.

    Joe was the fastest I've seen. By contrast even Marino drew the ball back after raising it to his right shoulder.

    And yup... a lot of great QB's tap the ball. Brady is a ball tapper. Not a desirable trait, but not a killer, if not compounded by an elongated route to the throwing position.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, it has always been well known that between Namath and Marino they had the quickest release in the game....though, I do notice on a few occasions on that video that Namath also gives a little tap to the ball before he throws it.

    Joe was the fastest I've seen. By contrast even Marino drew the ball back after raising it to his right shoulder.

    And yup... a lot of great QB's tap the ball. Brady is a ball tapper. Not a desirable trait, but not a killer, if not compounded by an elongated route to the throwing position.

    @tour2ma said:

    Brady is a ball tapper.

    There is some nice preseason smack talk right there.

    Zombo

  • @tour2ma said:

    Brady is a ball tapper.

    There is some nice preseason smack talk right there.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    There is some nice preseason smack talk right there.

    Zombo

    LOL... especially when combined with "elongate"....

  • Aaron Rodgers currently has the fastest release in the history of the NFL, faster than Marino. Fact. BUT... there's talk that Tajh Boyd has an insane timed release. Eager to see someone put it up against Rodgers.

  • Tom Brady's release is pretty nuts as well.

  • Reading tweets, Weeds is having an excellent practice today, too. Seems like the light went on?

  • Aaron Rodgers currently has the fastest release in the history of the NFL, faster than Marino. Fact. BUT... there's talk that Tajh Boyd has an insane timed release. Eager to see someone put it up against Rodgers.

    @shep said:

    Aaron Rodgers currently has the fastest release in the history of the NFL, faster than Marino. Fact. BUT... there's talk that Tajh Boyd has an insane timed release. Eager to see someone put it up against Rodgers.

    Source? Google only turned up debates... not only who has fastest, but also what the definition of "release" is... maybe that's the issue here as well. I've always understod it to be time from first move in throwing to ball leaves hand.

    And by the above definition... sorry, but no way Rodgers' is faster than Joe Willie's...