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  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Strike a nerve, did I, you buck-toothed Kentucky hilljack? Not big on cypherin' letters round there, I reckon.

    Seems like as good a time as any to mention Truck Stop Jimmy and his fancy rebate plan.

    @umadogg said:

    Seems like as good a time as any to mention Truck Stop Jimmy and his fancy rebate plan.

    Yep, the players seem to love the free gas thing too.

  • @umadogg said:

    Seems like as good a time as any to mention Truck Stop Jimmy and his fancy rebate plan.

    Yep, the players seem to love the free gas thing too.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Yep, the players seem to love the free gas thing too.

    Fans too.

    With every full tank you get a free carwash and a clean white towel to wave.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Yep, the players seem to love the free gas thing too.

    Fans too.

    With every full tank you get a free carwash and a clean white towel to wave.

    @umadogg said:

    Fans too.

    With every full tank you get a free carwash and a clean white towel to wave.

    Cool! Much better than a half talent ginger QB. I see yahoo sports have bungholes missing playoffs. Sorry about your damn luck

  • @roody-poo said:

    Cincinnati is in Ohio. Guess Cleveland's public schools need some work.

    Strike a nerve, did I, you buck-toothed Kentucky hilljack? Not big on cypherin' letters round there, I reckon.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Strike a nerve, did I, you buck-toothed Kentucky hilljack? Not big on cypherin' letters round there, I reckon.

    Doesn't your owner run truck stops? Lol
  • @umadogg said:

    Fans too.

    With every full tank you get a free carwash and a clean white towel to wave.

    Cool! Much better than a half talent ginger QB. I see yahoo sports have bungholes missing playoffs. Sorry about your damn luck

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Cool! Much better than a half talent ginger QB. I see yahoo sports have bungholes missing playoffs. Sorry about your damn luck

    Oh no not yahoo sports!! Whatever will we do?

    I saw that every single major site on the internet has the clowns missing the playoffs. Sorry about your damn luck.

    By the way, out of your two potiential starting qbs, one is a thirty year old second year ginger and the other is a bald career backup. They both suck fat balls.

  • @umadogg said:

    Fans too.

    With every full tank you get a free carwash and a clean white towel to wave.

    Cool! Much better than a half talent ginger QB. I see yahoo sports have bungholes missing playoffs. Sorry about your damn luck

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Cool! Much better than a half talent ginger QB. I see yahoo sports have bungholes missing playoffs. Sorry about your damn luck

    Lol a qb smack statement coming from a team that has had 19 qbs in 13 years. Cmon man!

  • @the-gipper said:

    Paul Brown played for Massillon....which is up this way.

    He went to Miami, Oh. for college...whichi is down that way.

    Is that what you are talking about?

    Coached in Columbus....which is in the middle.

    Coached at the Naval Acadamy...which is who knows where. Probably north.

    Coached in Cleveland...which is in the north.

    Betrayed in Cleveland...which is in the north.

    Founded NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Head coached NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Gave birth to the WCO before retiring in Cincy...which is in the south.

    Named Grand Poobah until death in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Paul Brown Stadium constructed in Cincy...which is in the south.

    Point being, Paul Brown played, coached, founded, and owned in many locations. Cleveland claims him as their own, but of all the places Brown coached it was Cleveland who betrayed him most. Most unforgivable, after firing him they betrayed him further by calling him too old and claimed the game had passed him by. Cast their lot with Modell, a pinhead mafioso in a camelhair coat. Watched as Paul Brown's earliest Bengal teams reacted to the loss of a franchise QB by giving birth to what would become known as the WCO, an offensive innovation that would revolutionize football for the next 25 years.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    A Bengal is a Bengal tiger. Come on, man.

    Panthera tigris tigris.

    How can you not love that?

    @umadogg said:

    Coached in Columbus....which is in the middle.

    Coached at the Naval Acadamy...which is who knows where. Probably north. The Great Lakes Naval Academy is/was in Chicago

    Coached in Cleveland...which is in the north.

    Betrayed in Cleveland...which is in the north.

    Founded NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Head coached NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Gave birth to the WCO before retiring in Cincy...which is in the south.

    Actually, the WCO is essentially the same offense he utilized in Cleveland with Otto Graham running it. Walsh made a few minor modifications to it.

    Oh...and FYI, it was Bernie Kosar who gave it the moniker West Coast Offense.

    Named Grand Poobah until death in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Paul Brown Stadium constructed in Cincy...which is in the south.

    Born in Norwalk (north), Raised in Massillon (north), buried in Massillon (north)

    Point being, Paul Brown played, coached, founded, and owned in many locations. Cleveland claims him as their own, but of all the places Brown coached it was Cleveland who betrayed him most. Most unforgivable, after firing him they betrayed him further by calling him too old and claimed the game had passed him by. Cast their lot with Modell, a pinhead mafioso in a camelhair coat. Watched as Paul Brown's earliest Bengal teams reacted to the loss of a franchise QB by giving birth to what would become known as the WCO, an offensive innovation that would revolutionize football for the next 25 years.

    See above, he was running that offense here for most of his career. It just hadn't attained a catchy moniker.

    ....And note: It was PB who refused to have Walsh replace him as HC of the Bengals, opting for Bill "Tiger" Johnson instead.

    For all his good....that was a bad move.

    Panthera tigris tigris.

    How can you not love that?

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Are the Miami dolphins named after mahi mahi fish then, do you think?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Are the bears named after wooly bears?

    Bears, Dolphins and Bengals, amongst many others, are named after actual things.

    But Gip tells me the Browns are named to honor a very specific person, but they're not sure who.

    Actually, everyone knows who they're named for.

    It's the guy who founded the Bengals

    @umadogg said:

    Bears, Dolphins and Bengals, amongst many others, are named after actual things.

    But Gip tells me the Browns are named to honor a very specific person, but they're not sure who.

    Actually, everyone knows who they're named for.

    It's the guy who founded the Bengals

    Yes, probably. But he wouldn't acknowledge that. (and FYI, he also "founded" the Browns....he was just not the " principal owner" of the Browns. And, FYI, see the trivia....PB was also not the principal owner of the Bengals either.

  • mrgiggles said:

    Come for a visit?

    I'm curious. What is your opinion on ginger QBs and the fact that they have never done anything in the NFL. Is it because they have no soul?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I'm curious. What is your opinion on ginger QBs and the fact that they have never done anything in the NFL. Is it because they have no soul?

    Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckman, Sonny Jurgenson were all redheads...and in the HOF.

    And all of these guys were redheads:

    Ramses the Great

    Ghengis Khan

    Cleopatra

    Christopher Columbus

    Mohamed

    Jesus Christ

    Lenin

    Churchill

    Van Gogh

    Brigham Young

    George Washington

    Thomas Jefferson

    Andrew Jackson

    Eisenhower

    and me.

    Want to make something of it?

  • @umadogg said:

    Coached in Columbus....which is in the middle.

    Coached at the Naval Acadamy...which is who knows where. Probably north. The Great Lakes Naval Academy is/was in Chicago

    Coached in Cleveland...which is in the north.

    Betrayed in Cleveland...which is in the north.

    Founded NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Head coached NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Gave birth to the WCO before retiring in Cincy...which is in the south.

    Actually, the WCO is essentially the same offense he utilized in Cleveland with Otto Graham running it. Walsh made a few minor modifications to it.

    Oh...and FYI, it was Bernie Kosar who gave it the moniker West Coast Offense.

    Named Grand Poobah until death in Cincy....which is in the south.

    Paul Brown Stadium constructed in Cincy...which is in the south.

    Born in Norwalk (north), Raised in Massillon (north), buried in Massillon (north)

    Point being, Paul Brown played, coached, founded, and owned in many locations. Cleveland claims him as their own, but of all the places Brown coached it was Cleveland who betrayed him most. Most unforgivable, after firing him they betrayed him further by calling him too old and claimed the game had passed him by. Cast their lot with Modell, a pinhead mafioso in a camelhair coat. Watched as Paul Brown's earliest Bengal teams reacted to the loss of a franchise QB by giving birth to what would become known as the WCO, an offensive innovation that would revolutionize football for the next 25 years.

    See above, he was running that offense here for most of his career. It just hadn't attained a catchy moniker.

    ....And note: It was PB who refused to have Walsh replace him as HC of the Bengals, opting for Bill "Tiger" Johnson instead.

    For all his good....that was a bad move.

    Panthera tigris tigris.

    How can you not love that?

    @the-gipper said:

    Actually, the WCO is essentially the same offense he utilized in Cleveland with Otto Graham running it. Walsh made a few minor modifications to it.

    Oh...and FYI, it was Bernie Kosar who gave it the moniker West Coast Offense.

    Yup, yup, yup.

    Walsh said on may occasions that the WCO offense was little more than a Paul Brown playbook with a greater emphasis placed on timing, with QB's throwing to spots before the receiver had made his break. And again, those changes were prompted by an injury to Greg Cook that forced the Bengals to adapt using small ball QB's. Further, when Walsh suggested the change he gave Brown credit for embracing the shift without hesitation even though it placed greater responsibility on receivers to run precise routes and read defenses.

    BTW, the WCO wasn't the only thing that was named by Bernie Kosar. Rumor has it he also picked out his daughters porn star name.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Yet worse than the browns front seven in every way

    If you honestly think that, you're Retarded. There isn't one player on the browns line that would start on the bengals. The only LB that would is Jackson. Overrated by you all because it's the only part of your team worth a shit.

    @roody-poo said:

    If you honestly think that, you're Retarded. There isn't one player on the browns line that would start on the bengals. The only LB that would is Jackson. Overrated by you all because it's the only part of your team worth a shit.

    It shows that you're still a kid. You know nothing about football.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Actually, the WCO is essentially the same offense he utilized in Cleveland with Otto Graham running it. Walsh made a few minor modifications to it.

    Oh...and FYI, it was Bernie Kosar who gave it the moniker West Coast Offense.

    Yup, yup, yup.

    Walsh said on may occasions that the WCO offense was little more than a Paul Brown playbook with a greater emphasis placed on timing, with QB's throwing to spots before the receiver had made his break. And again, those changes were prompted by an injury to Greg Cook that forced the Bengals to adapt using small ball QB's. Further, when Walsh suggested the change he gave Brown credit for embracing the shift without hesitation even though it placed greater responsibility on receivers to run precise routes and read defenses.

    BTW, the WCO wasn't the only thing that was named by Bernie Kosar. Rumor has it he also picked out his daughters porn star name.

    @umadogg said:

    BTW, the WCO wasn't the only thing that was named by Bernie Kosar. Rumor has it he also picked out his daughters porn star name.

    Well, why don't you not listen to rumors and just ask Bernie if that is true?

  • @umadogg said:

    Bears, Dolphins and Bengals, amongst many others, are named after actual things.

    But Gip tells me the Browns are named to honor a very specific person, but they're not sure who.

    Actually, everyone knows who they're named for.

    It's the guy who founded the Bengals

    Yes, probably. But he wouldn't acknowledge that. (and FYI, he also "founded" the Browns....he was just not the " principal owner" of the Browns. And, FYI, see the trivia....PB was also not the principal owner of the Bengals either.

    @the-gipper said:

    And, FYI, see the trivia....PB was also not the principal owner of the Bengals either.

    Every Bengal fan knows that.

    When the Bengals were founded Paul Brown was granted full control of all football operations but just 2% of the shares. That said, each year he coached his contract allowed for his salary to be exchanged for additional shares and he was given right of first refusal to purchase additional shares whenever FIFO (First in, first out) investors cashed out. Those included the Cincinnati Enquirer and Proctor & Gamble. Thus, Browns share of team ownership grew steadily over the years, due to the opportunities to purchase ownership shares that were written into his contract with the Bengals. Finally, it was later learned a handshake agreement with principle shareholder Dutch Knowlton allowed the Brown family to gain majority shareholder status, and controlling interest, when Knowlton sold his shares to the Brown family at a fraction of their face value.

    In short, Paul Brown was able to feather his family nest by doing what few thought was possible, by purchasing stock at every available opportunity whenever short-term short-sighted investors wanted to cash out, and then again when old friend Dutch Knowlton agreed to honor a past promise to the Brown family that actually denied the Knowlton estate of many millions of dollars, as his heirs loudly complained of.

    Nutshelled, Paul Brown was a very smart man who surrounded himself in Cincinnati with honest men and investors. His experiences in Clevetucky had taught him the dangers that come from being in partnership with overleveraged miafioso types who built their fortunes by running cab companies, real estate scams, or most recently.....fraudulent fuel rebate schemes that scam millions of dollars.

  • So much deflection going on here, its pretty obvious the clowns fans are nervous about the game.

  • I once knew a ninja, and he would give me the scores for football games. We will call him Rocky. Rocky was a smart guy, brilliant and from a wealthy ninja family in beautiful southern Ohio. He used to tell me of the horror that goes on in the mistake by the lake. This horror he was referring to? None other than the stains playing football. Or so they thought it was football. I recently called rocky and asked him for a prediction to this game. After clearing is throat he spoke with great confidence ;

    Bengals - 32

    Browns - 17

  • Revised prediction: Browns 42, Bungholes 3

  • @the-gipper said:

    And, FYI, see the trivia....PB was also not the principal owner of the Bengals either.

    Every Bengal fan knows that.

    When the Bengals were founded Paul Brown was granted full control of all football operations but just 2% of the shares. That said, each year he coached his contract allowed for his salary to be exchanged for additional shares and he was given right of first refusal to purchase additional shares whenever FIFO (First in, first out) investors cashed out. Those included the Cincinnati Enquirer and Proctor & Gamble. Thus, Browns share of team ownership grew steadily over the years, due to the opportunities to purchase ownership shares that were written into his contract with the Bengals. Finally, it was later learned a handshake agreement with principle shareholder Dutch Knowlton allowed the Brown family to gain majority shareholder status, and controlling interest, when Knowlton sold his shares to the Brown family at a fraction of their face value.

    In short, Paul Brown was able to feather his family nest by doing what few thought was possible, by purchasing stock at every available opportunity whenever short-term short-sighted investors wanted to cash out, and then again when old friend Dutch Knowlton agreed to honor a past promise to the Brown family that actually denied the Knowlton estate of many millions of dollars, as his heirs loudly complained of.

    Nutshelled, Paul Brown was a very smart man who surrounded himself in Cincinnati with honest men and investors. His experiences in Clevetucky had taught him the dangers that come from being in partnership with overleveraged miafioso types who built their fortunes by running cab companies, real estate scams, or most recently.....fraudulent fuel rebate schemes that scam millions of dollars.

    @umadogg said:

    Every Bengal fan knows that.

    When the Bengals were founded Paul Brown was granted full control of all football operations but just 2% of the shares. That said, each year he coached his contract allowed for his salary to be exchanged for additional shares and he was given right of first refusal to purchase additional shares whenever FIFO (First in, first out) investors cashed out. Those included the Cincinnati Enquirer and Proctor & Gamble. Thus, Browns share of team ownership grew steadily over the years, due to the opportunities to purchase ownership shares that were written into his contract with the Bengals. Finally, it was later learned a handshake agreement with principle shareholder Dutch Knowlton allowed the Brown family to gain majority shareholder status, and controlling interest, when Knowlton sold his shares to the Brown family at a fraction of their face value.

    In short, Paul Brown was able to feather his family nest by doing what few thought was possible, by purchasing stock at every available opportunity whenever short-term short-sighted investors wanted to cash out, and then again when old friend Dutch Knowlton agreed to honor a past promise to the Brown family that actually denied the Knowlton estate of many millions of dollars, as his heirs loudly complained of.

    Nutshelled, Paul Brown was a very smart man who surrounded himself in Cincinnati with honest men and investors. His experiences in Clevetucky had taught him the dangers that come from being in partnership with overleveraged miafioso types who built their fortunes by running cab companies, real estate scams, or most recently.....fraudulent fuel rebate schemes that scam millions of dollars.

    Fair enough. Then you should be able to go the the trivia thread and answer many/most of those questions.

  • So much deflection going on here, its pretty obvious the clowns fans are nervous about the game.

    mrgiggles said:

    So much deflection going on here, its pretty obvious the clowns fans are nervous about the game.

    Don't be stupid. We have lost bigger games than this one....and didn't get nervous over them.

    Clearly YOU are the nervous ones. For the first time in over a generation you see a potential legitimate championship caliber team on your field. Most are picking you to win the AFCN, and to be the prime challenger to the Broncos for the AFC Crown.

    Losing to the Browns, who again are picked and expected to be below .500 at best would unravel all that.

    Hell, if you lost this game you would be tied with the Browns...who would actually have a tiebreaker over you with the win.

    No, you are the ones that need to be nervous.

    Are the Bengals a heavy favorite? Yes. Should they be? Yes. Do they seemingly have more talent? Yes

    Would it be a major choke job for them to lose to the Browns? Yes.

    So, you see, all the apprehension for this game is on your side.

    For the Browns to win....after trading away what many thought was their best player....after giving their 3rd string QB the start, a win would just be a major unexpected gift.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Strike a nerve, did I, you buck-toothed Kentucky hilljack? Not big on cypherin' letters round there, I reckon.

    Seems like as good a time as any to mention Truck Stop Jimmy and his fancy rebate plan.

    @umadogg said:

    Seems like as good a time as any to mention Truck Stop Jimmy and his fancy rebate plan.

    I like him. Why? Cause, fuck 'em that's why.

  • Lolz is this game even a debate?

    32-3 Bengals!