Browns - Bengals Game
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Coached in Columbus....which is in the middle.
Coached at the Naval Acadamy...which is who knows where. Probably north. The Great Lakes Naval Academy is/was in Chicago
Coached in Cleveland...which is in the north.
Betrayed in Cleveland...which is in the north.
Founded NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.
Head coached NFL franchise in Cincy....which is in the south.
Gave birth to the WCO before retiring in Cincy...which is in the south.
Actually, the WCO is essentially the same offense he utilized in Cleveland with Otto Graham running it. Walsh made a few minor modifications to it.
Oh...and FYI, it was Bernie Kosar who gave it the moniker West Coast Offense.
Named Grand Poobah until death in Cincy....which is in the south.
Paul Brown Stadium constructed in Cincy...which is in the south.
Born in Norwalk (north), Raised in Massillon (north), buried in Massillon (north)
Point being, Paul Brown played, coached, founded, and owned in many locations. Cleveland claims him as their own, but of all the places Brown coached it was Cleveland who betrayed him most. Most unforgivable, after firing him they betrayed him further by calling him too old and claimed the game had passed him by. Cast their lot with Modell, a pinhead mafioso in a camelhair coat. Watched as Paul Brown's earliest Bengal teams reacted to the loss of a franchise QB by giving birth to what would become known as the WCO, an offensive innovation that would revolutionize football for the next 25 years.
See above, he was running that offense here for most of his career. It just hadn't attained a catchy moniker.
....And note: It was PB who refused to have Walsh replace him as HC of the Bengals, opting for Bill "Tiger" Johnson instead.
For all his good....that was a bad move.
Panthera tigris tigris.
How can you not love that?
Actually, the WCO is essentially the same offense he utilized in Cleveland with Otto Graham running it. Walsh made a few minor modifications to it.
Oh...and FYI, it was Bernie Kosar who gave it the moniker West Coast Offense.
Yup, yup, yup.
Walsh said on may occasions that the WCO offense was little more than a Paul Brown playbook with a greater emphasis placed on timing, with QB's throwing to spots before the receiver had made his break. And again, those changes were prompted by an injury to Greg Cook that forced the Bengals to adapt using small ball QB's. Further, when Walsh suggested the change he gave Brown credit for embracing the shift without hesitation even though it placed greater responsibility on receivers to run precise routes and read defenses.
BTW, the WCO wasn't the only thing that was named by Bernie Kosar. Rumor has it he also picked out his daughters porn star name.
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If you honestly think that, you're Retarded. There isn't one player on the browns line that would start on the bengals. The only LB that would is Jackson. Overrated by you all because it's the only part of your team worth a shit.Yet worse than the browns front seven in every way
If you honestly think that, you're Retarded. There isn't one player on the browns line that would start on the bengals. The only LB that would is Jackson. Overrated by you all because it's the only part of your team worth a shit.
It shows that you're still a kid. You know nothing about football.
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Actually, the WCO is essentially the same offense he utilized in Cleveland with Otto Graham running it. Walsh made a few minor modifications to it.
Oh...and FYI, it was Bernie Kosar who gave it the moniker West Coast Offense.
Yup, yup, yup.
Walsh said on may occasions that the WCO offense was little more than a Paul Brown playbook with a greater emphasis placed on timing, with QB's throwing to spots before the receiver had made his break. And again, those changes were prompted by an injury to Greg Cook that forced the Bengals to adapt using small ball QB's. Further, when Walsh suggested the change he gave Brown credit for embracing the shift without hesitation even though it placed greater responsibility on receivers to run precise routes and read defenses.
BTW, the WCO wasn't the only thing that was named by Bernie Kosar. Rumor has it he also picked out his daughters porn star name.
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Bears, Dolphins and Bengals, amongst many others, are named after actual things.
But Gip tells me the Browns are named to honor a very specific person, but they're not sure who.
Actually, everyone knows who they're named for.
It's the guy who founded the Bengals
Yes, probably. But he wouldn't acknowledge that. (and FYI, he also "founded" the Browns....he was just not the " principal owner" of the Browns. And, FYI, see the trivia....PB was also not the principal owner of the Bengals either.
And, FYI, see the trivia....PB was also not the principal owner of the Bengals either.
Every Bengal fan knows that.
When the Bengals were founded Paul Brown was granted full control of all football operations but just 2% of the shares. That said, each year he coached his contract allowed for his salary to be exchanged for additional shares and he was given right of first refusal to purchase additional shares whenever FIFO (First in, first out) investors cashed out. Those included the Cincinnati Enquirer and Proctor & Gamble. Thus, Browns share of team ownership grew steadily over the years, due to the opportunities to purchase ownership shares that were written into his contract with the Bengals. Finally, it was later learned a handshake agreement with principle shareholder Dutch Knowlton allowed the Brown family to gain majority shareholder status, and controlling interest, when Knowlton sold his shares to the Brown family at a fraction of their face value.
In short, Paul Brown was able to feather his family nest by doing what few thought was possible, by purchasing stock at every available opportunity whenever short-term short-sighted investors wanted to cash out, and then again when old friend Dutch Knowlton agreed to honor a past promise to the Brown family that actually denied the Knowlton estate of many millions of dollars, as his heirs loudly complained of.
Nutshelled, Paul Brown was a very smart man who surrounded himself in Cincinnati with honest men and investors. His experiences in Clevetucky had taught him the dangers that come from being in partnership with overleveraged miafioso types who built their fortunes by running cab companies, real estate scams, or most recently.....fraudulent fuel rebate schemes that scam millions of dollars.
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So much deflection going on here, its pretty obvious the clowns fans are nervous about the game.
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I once knew a ninja, and he would give me the scores for football games. We will call him Rocky. Rocky was a smart guy, brilliant and from a wealthy ninja family in beautiful southern Ohio. He used to tell me of the horror that goes on in the mistake by the lake. This horror he was referring to? None other than the stains playing football. Or so they thought it was football. I recently called rocky and asked him for a prediction to this game. After clearing is throat he spoke with great confidence ;
Bengals - 32
Browns - 17
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Revised prediction: Browns 42, Bungholes 3
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And, FYI, see the trivia....PB was also not the principal owner of the Bengals either.
Every Bengal fan knows that.
When the Bengals were founded Paul Brown was granted full control of all football operations but just 2% of the shares. That said, each year he coached his contract allowed for his salary to be exchanged for additional shares and he was given right of first refusal to purchase additional shares whenever FIFO (First in, first out) investors cashed out. Those included the Cincinnati Enquirer and Proctor & Gamble. Thus, Browns share of team ownership grew steadily over the years, due to the opportunities to purchase ownership shares that were written into his contract with the Bengals. Finally, it was later learned a handshake agreement with principle shareholder Dutch Knowlton allowed the Brown family to gain majority shareholder status, and controlling interest, when Knowlton sold his shares to the Brown family at a fraction of their face value.
In short, Paul Brown was able to feather his family nest by doing what few thought was possible, by purchasing stock at every available opportunity whenever short-term short-sighted investors wanted to cash out, and then again when old friend Dutch Knowlton agreed to honor a past promise to the Brown family that actually denied the Knowlton estate of many millions of dollars, as his heirs loudly complained of.
Nutshelled, Paul Brown was a very smart man who surrounded himself in Cincinnati with honest men and investors. His experiences in Clevetucky had taught him the dangers that come from being in partnership with overleveraged miafioso types who built their fortunes by running cab companies, real estate scams, or most recently.....fraudulent fuel rebate schemes that scam millions of dollars.
Every Bengal fan knows that.
When the Bengals were founded Paul Brown was granted full control of all football operations but just 2% of the shares. That said, each year he coached his contract allowed for his salary to be exchanged for additional shares and he was given right of first refusal to purchase additional shares whenever FIFO (First in, first out) investors cashed out. Those included the Cincinnati Enquirer and Proctor & Gamble. Thus, Browns share of team ownership grew steadily over the years, due to the opportunities to purchase ownership shares that were written into his contract with the Bengals. Finally, it was later learned a handshake agreement with principle shareholder Dutch Knowlton allowed the Brown family to gain majority shareholder status, and controlling interest, when Knowlton sold his shares to the Brown family at a fraction of their face value.
In short, Paul Brown was able to feather his family nest by doing what few thought was possible, by purchasing stock at every available opportunity whenever short-term short-sighted investors wanted to cash out, and then again when old friend Dutch Knowlton agreed to honor a past promise to the Brown family that actually denied the Knowlton estate of many millions of dollars, as his heirs loudly complained of.
Nutshelled, Paul Brown was a very smart man who surrounded himself in Cincinnati with honest men and investors. His experiences in Clevetucky had taught him the dangers that come from being in partnership with overleveraged miafioso types who built their fortunes by running cab companies, real estate scams, or most recently.....fraudulent fuel rebate schemes that scam millions of dollars.
Fair enough. Then you should be able to go the the trivia thread and answer many/most of those questions.
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So much deflection going on here, its pretty obvious the clowns fans are nervous about the game.
mrgiggles said:
So much deflection going on here, its pretty obvious the clowns fans are nervous about the game.
Don't be stupid. We have lost bigger games than this one....and didn't get nervous over them.
Clearly YOU are the nervous ones. For the first time in over a generation you see a potential legitimate championship caliber team on your field. Most are picking you to win the AFCN, and to be the prime challenger to the Broncos for the AFC Crown.
Losing to the Browns, who again are picked and expected to be below .500 at best would unravel all that.
Hell, if you lost this game you would be tied with the Browns...who would actually have a tiebreaker over you with the win.
No, you are the ones that need to be nervous.
Are the Bengals a heavy favorite? Yes. Should they be? Yes. Do they seemingly have more talent? Yes
Would it be a major choke job for them to lose to the Browns? Yes.
So, you see, all the apprehension for this game is on your side.
For the Browns to win....after trading away what many thought was their best player....after giving their 3rd string QB the start, a win would just be a major unexpected gift.
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Strike a nerve, did I, you buck-toothed Kentucky hilljack? Not big on cypherin' letters round there, I reckon.
Seems like as good a time as any to mention Truck Stop Jimmy and his fancy rebate plan.
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PongLenis said:
Lolz is this game even a debate?
32-3 Bengals!
No, its not a debate. Its a football game. You want to see a debate? Go watch C-SPAN
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on national radio today they were praising the browns. it was really nice to here for a change. they were saying how they think gordon is a top 3 receiver in the NFL right now and how cameron is a total stud. i kid you not. and they put special emphasis on the word superstar when talking about both those guys. first time in ages ive heard this much browns praise from national media in my lifetime. really brightened my day
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Browns are a 4 point underdog. In the last 12 games of this series, the dog is 10-1-1
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There´s never an underdog in a division match-up. I wish it was Sunday already!
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PongLenis said:
Lolz is this game even a debate?
32-3 Bengals!
No, its not a debate. Its a football game. You want to see a debate? Go watch C-SPAN
It would be nice if y'all didn't get offended and ban every single person who says the bengals are going to win. Sorry for being honest. It's not even trolling. It's just the truth. It's not like were on here saying "lol dalton is the next Peyton manning, bengals are the next great nfl dynasty lol" were just providing factual evidence on why the bengals will win, and then getting banned. The browns suck, get used to it.No, its not a debate. Its a football game. You want to see a debate? Go watch C-SPAN
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It would be nice if y'all didn't get offended and ban every single person who says the bengals are going to win. Sorry for being honest. It's not even trolling. It's just the truth. It's not like were on here saying "lol dalton is the next Peyton manning, bengals are the next great nfl dynasty lol" were just providing factual evidence on why the bengals will win, and then getting banned. The browns suck, get used to it.No, its not a debate. Its a football game. You want to see a debate? Go watch C-SPAN
It would be nice if y'all didn't get offended and ban every single person who says the bengals are going to win. Sorry for being honest. It's not even trolling. It's just the truth. It's not like were on here saying "lol dalton is the next Peyton manning, bengals are the next great nfl dynasty lol" were just providing factual evidence on why the bengals will win, and then getting banned. The browns suck, get used to it.
You think trolling like a douchebag is providing factual evidence. Ah, Kentucky.
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@modell_the_savior said:
Browns have the most delusional fanbase ever... You guys win one game and all of a sudden you're playoff bound.
Bengals 31
Poop Stains 17
This is what passes for factual evidence in cincitucky
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Well, when....the Browns win, I hope these cincy trolls come back. Most all the time,
they hide, never to return.
Naturally, if they did win, then they come back to the site to smart off some more.
Squeeler fans are like that often. I say the Brown win.
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It would be nice if y'all didn't get offended and ban every single person who says the bengals are going to win. Sorry for being honest. It's not even trolling. It's just the truth. It's not like were on here saying "lol dalton is the next Peyton manning, bengals are the next great nfl dynasty lol" were just providing factual evidence on why the bengals will win, and then getting banned. The browns suck, get used to it.No, its not a debate. Its a football game. You want to see a debate? Go watch C-SPAN
It would be nice if y'all didn't get offended and ban every single person who says the bengals are going to win. Sorry for being honest. It's not even trolling. It's just the truth. It's not like were on here saying "lol dalton is the next Peyton manning, bengals are the next great nfl dynasty lol" were just providing factual evidence on why the bengals will win, and then getting banned. The browns suck, get used to it.
I wasn't offended, and I don't ban anyone. I was just being semantical toward someone who had a very weak take.
You can smak all you want, just don't be lame and feckless with it.
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