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  • @letsgojackets said:

    Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?

    Yeah, the Bills suck man. No one's arguing lol.

    This is the suck bowl.

    hahalaughlaugh said:

    Yeah, the Bills suck man. No one's arguing lol.

    This is the suck bowl.

    Nah- that would be the Steelers playing the Giants, or the Jags against Tampa.

  • @hoorta said:

    Simple- if the Bills can't effecively run the ball, and expect Manuel to win the game, you're in trouble.

    If the Browns can give Hoyer adequate time to throw the ball, again, trouble for the Bills. The Browns have relied mostly on quick crossing routes, capatalizing on Hoyers ability to get the ball out quickly. Then it's Cameron or Gordon time over the top. Hoyer does have enough arm to throw the ball deep.

    He sucks throwing deep. Wildly inaccurate.

    hahalaughlaugh said:

    He sucks throwing deep. Wildly inaccurate.

    Did you watch the games he's played in? I have to disagree.

    Weeden is wildly innacurate I'll grant you that- but he won't be playing Thursday, barring injury.

  • @shep said:

    Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.

    And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).

    No, they weren't. You just perceive it that way because youre rivals. No one outside of Ohio was even looking at the Bengals lol. In fact, I just saw an article talking about how unimpressive Dalton has been all year.

    LOL. And the Vikings offense is on par with the Bills. So we should expect 28 points? HA.

    You haven't faced a good offense all year. They've all sucked. The Bills offense sucks too so you won't face a good one this week either.

    So you're "nasty" D will be able to pretend yet again.

    True about the article, referenced on ESPN. But prior to that, ESPN and NFLN were up the Bengals ass all offseason and right up until the Browns game. I don't read Cincinnati papers, only Cleveland, and while there was respect for the Bengals I never saw any Browns writers gushing like the national guys.

    hahalaughlaugh said:

    No, they weren't. You just perceive it that way because youre rivals. No one outside of Ohio was even looking at the Bengals lol. In fact, I just saw an article talking about how unimpressive Dalton has been all year.

    LOL. And the Vikings offense is on par with the Bills. So we should expect 28 points? HA.

    You haven't faced a good offense all year. They've all sucked. The Bills offense sucks too so you won't face a good one this week either.

    So you're "nasty" D will be able to pretend yet again.

  • Man, I just don't agree. Both teams are vastly improved and had strong offseasons. The EJ pick was ballsy and smart... but nobody's looking to give back sack-a-game Keke, either.

    Neither is an offensive juggernaut... but they both have players on that side of the ball, too. The winner of this game could launch toward a Wild Card.

    @shep said:

    Man, I just don't agree. Both teams are vastly improved and had strong offseasons. The EJ pick was ballsy and smart... but nobody's looking to give back sack-a-game Keke, either.

    Neither is an offensive juggernaut... but they both have players on that side of the ball, too. The winner of this game could launch toward a Wild Card.

    The Browns have 0 chance at a wild card.

    You guys blow.

    I don't understand this confidence from Browns fans.

    You get blown out by Miami. Get beat the Ravens (who the Bills beat). Almost give the game away to a horrible Vikings team, and then beat the Bengals and all of a sudden youre a good team.

    HAHAHAHAHA.

    Are you all on meth?

    Your. Team. BLOWS.

    So does the Bills.

  • Here's a key: The Browns have proven they can win with Hoyer and no running game. The Bills have not proven the same with Manuel. Hoyer plays like a veteran, makes pre-snap reads and gets the ball out. I'm an EJ fan but he's a rookie and hasn't been asked to do much.

  • hahalaughlaugh said:

    He sucks throwing deep. Wildly inaccurate.

    Did you watch the games he's played in? I have to disagree.

    Weeden is wildly innacurate I'll grant you that- but he won't be playing Thursday, barring injury.

    @hoorta said:

    Did you watch the games he's played in? I have to disagree.

    Yeah I did.

    I also saw ESPN making fun of his deep throws and some still pictures from a Bills forum.

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  • Here's a key: The Browns have proven they can win with Hoyer and no running game. The Bills have not proven the same with Manuel. Hoyer plays like a veteran, makes pre-snap reads and gets the ball out. I'm an EJ fan but he's a rookie and hasn't been asked to do much.

    @shep said:

    Here's a key: The Browns have proven they can win with Hoyer and no running game. The Bills have not proven the same with Manuel. Hoyer plays like a veteran, makes pre-snap reads and gets the ball out. I'm an EJ fan but he's a rookie and hasn't been asked to do much.

    The Browns have proven they can barely win against a crappy Vikings team and can beat a Bengals team which is a rival.

    That's not the same as proven to win.

  • Weren't both the Vikings and Bengals in the playoffs last year? Did they lose a lot of players?

    Trust me: Both teams expected to beat the Browns and found out otherwise. So will the Bills.

  • @hoorta said:

    Did you watch the games he's played in? I have to disagree.

    Yeah I did.

    I also saw ESPN making fun of his deep throws and some still pictures from a Bills forum.

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    hahalaughlaugh said:

    Yeah I did.

    I also saw ESPN making fun of his deep throws and some still pictures from a Bills forum.

    Fine I'll bite. Both of those passes were under pressure and into double coverage. There is such a thing as an intentional overthrow because those pictures clearly show the chance for a complete pass was really, really bad. Most browns fan aren't delusional, but Hoyer against a solid Bengals defense threw two TD's with 13 incomplete passes. Those types of stats are about 1000000x better than what we've been put through.

    It's not confidence more than it's optimism. All the talk can be around how this streak won't last but until they lose we're all just riding the wave. Everyone said the same thing about the Indians and next thing you know they have a playoff game tonight. It's something crazy (Gipper can back me up) that 5-6 new teams are in the playoffs each season in the NFL. So why not the Browns? I think you'll be pleasantly shocked how good the Browns defense is.

  • This guy is a troll. Ha ha ha ha ha.

  • hahalaughlaugh said:

    Yeah I did.

    I also saw ESPN making fun of his deep throws and some still pictures from a Bills forum.

    Fine I'll bite. Both of those passes were under pressure and into double coverage. There is such a thing as an intentional overthrow because those pictures clearly show the chance for a complete pass was really, really bad. Most browns fan aren't delusional, but Hoyer against a solid Bengals defense threw two TD's with 13 incomplete passes. Those types of stats are about 1000000x better than what we've been put through.

    It's not confidence more than it's optimism. All the talk can be around how this streak won't last but until they lose we're all just riding the wave. Everyone said the same thing about the Indians and next thing you know they have a playoff game tonight. It's something crazy (Gipper can back me up) that 5-6 new teams are in the playoffs each season in the NFL. So why not the Browns? I think you'll be pleasantly shocked how good the Browns defense is.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Fine I'll bite. Both of those passes were under pressure and into double coverage. There is such a thing as an intentional overthrow because those pictures clearly show the chance for a complete pass was really, really bad. Most browns fan aren't delusional, but Hoyer against a solid Bengals defense threw two TD's with 13 incomplete passes. Those types of stats are about 1000000x better than what we've been put through.

    It's not confidence more than it's optimism. All the talk can be around how this streak won't last but until they lose we're all just riding the wave. Everyone said the same thing about the Indians and next thing you know they have a playoff game tonight. It's something crazy (Gipper can back me up) that 5-6 new teams are in the playoffs each season in the NFL. So why not the Browns? I think you'll be pleasantly shocked how good the Browns defense is.

    You're lying or just mistaken. The first pass was a little under pressure but he had time. The second throw, into double coverage, he had TONS of time. He just threw it into double coverage for no freaking reason.

  • Hoyer's been really good. Not perfect... but really good. He's made some amazing throws. Has he missed a couple? Sure. But he HAS gone downfield very well on several occasions. Tough to knock him right now. Wheels could come off but haven't yet.

  • Weren't both the Vikings and Bengals in the playoffs last year? Did they lose a lot of players?

    Trust me: Both teams expected to beat the Browns and found out otherwise. So will the Bills.

    @shep said:

    Weren't both the Vikings and Bengals in the playoffs last year? Did they lose a lot of players?

    Trust me: Both teams expected to beat the Browns and found out otherwise. So will the Bills.

    The Bills were in the playoffs one year and 3-13 the next.

    Pats won the SB and then went 7-9.

    Prior year success means nothing.

    The Bengals have one of the worst offenses in the league through 4 weeks.

    The Vikings look like dog crap, only winning a game because they played the even worse Steelers.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Fine I'll bite. Both of those passes were under pressure and into double coverage. There is such a thing as an intentional overthrow because those pictures clearly show the chance for a complete pass was really, really bad. Most browns fan aren't delusional, but Hoyer against a solid Bengals defense threw two TD's with 13 incomplete passes. Those types of stats are about 1000000x better than what we've been put through.

    It's not confidence more than it's optimism. All the talk can be around how this streak won't last but until they lose we're all just riding the wave. Everyone said the same thing about the Indians and next thing you know they have a playoff game tonight. It's something crazy (Gipper can back me up) that 5-6 new teams are in the playoffs each season in the NFL. So why not the Browns? I think you'll be pleasantly shocked how good the Browns defense is.

    You're lying or just mistaken. The first pass was a little under pressure but he had time. The second throw, into double coverage, he had TONS of time. He just threw it into double coverage for no freaking reason.

    hahalaughlaugh said:

    You're lying or just mistaken. The first pass was a little under pressure but he had time. The second throw, into double coverage, he had TONS of time. He just threw it into double coverage for no freaking reason.

    Do you actually have video of those throws or are you just assuming that too? Look I don't remember every play but again, there's such a thing as an intentional overthrow. I'll take a couple missed passes and a performance he put up against the Bengals every week.

  • hahalaughlaugh said:

    Yeah I did.

    I also saw ESPN making fun of his deep throws and some still pictures from a Bills forum.

    Fine I'll bite. Both of those passes were under pressure and into double coverage. There is such a thing as an intentional overthrow because those pictures clearly show the chance for a complete pass was really, really bad. Most browns fan aren't delusional, but Hoyer against a solid Bengals defense threw two TD's with 13 incomplete passes. Those types of stats are about 1000000x better than what we've been put through.

    It's not confidence more than it's optimism. All the talk can be around how this streak won't last but until they lose we're all just riding the wave. Everyone said the same thing about the Indians and next thing you know they have a playoff game tonight. It's something crazy (Gipper can back me up) that 5-6 new teams are in the playoffs each season in the NFL. So why not the Browns? I think you'll be pleasantly shocked how good the Browns defense is.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Fine I'll bite. Both of those passes were under pressure and into double coverage. There is such a thing as an intentional overthrow because those pictures clearly show the chance for a complete pass was really, really bad. Most browns fan aren't delusional, but Hoyer against a solid Bengals defense threw two TD's with 13 incomplete passes. Those types of stats are about 1000000x better than what we've been put through.

    It's not confidence more than it's optimism. All the talk can be around how this streak won't last but until they lose we're all just riding the wave. Everyone said the same thing about the Indians and next thing you know they have a playoff game tonight. It's something crazy (Gipper can back me up) that 5-6 new teams are in the playoffs each season in the NFL. So why not the Browns? I think you'll be pleasantly shocked how good the Browns defense is.

    Exactly- those pics may be totally out of context- and the second pass looked like it was on target. hahaha didn't watch the whole game I'm betting, but he should spend 3 minutes over on NFL.com and review the game highlights- two teriffic long passes, one to Gordon, another to Cameron. And he might want to take a look at how Haden shut down AJ Green who is arguably better than anyone on the Bills roster.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    This guy is a troll. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    Hahahaha like we don't know that already?

  • Hoyer's been really good. Not perfect... but really good. He's made some amazing throws. Has he missed a couple? Sure. But he HAS gone downfield very well on several occasions. Tough to knock him right now. Wheels could come off but haven't yet.

    @shep said:

    Hoyer's been really good. Not perfect... but really good. He's made some amazing throws. Has he missed a couple? Sure. But he HAS gone downfield very well on several occasions. Tough to knock him right now. Wheels could come off but haven't yet.

    Do you just lie to make yourself feel better?

    He has completed ONE pass over 40 yards. That's going downfield successfully on "several" occasions?

    In fact, on passes over 10 yards, Hoyer is 9 of 19 (less than 50%).

  • hahalaughlaugh said:

    You're lying or just mistaken. The first pass was a little under pressure but he had time. The second throw, into double coverage, he had TONS of time. He just threw it into double coverage for no freaking reason.

    Do you actually have video of those throws or are you just assuming that too? Look I don't remember every play but again, there's such a thing as an intentional overthrow. I'll take a couple missed passes and a performance he put up against the Bengals every week.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Do you actually have video of those throws or are you just assuming that too? Look I don't remember every play but again, there's such a thing as an intentional overthrow. I'll take a couple missed passes and a performance he put up against the Bengals every week.

    Yes, ESPN showed multiple angles.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Fine I'll bite. Both of those passes were under pressure and into double coverage. There is such a thing as an intentional overthrow because those pictures clearly show the chance for a complete pass was really, really bad. Most browns fan aren't delusional, but Hoyer against a solid Bengals defense threw two TD's with 13 incomplete passes. Those types of stats are about 1000000x better than what we've been put through.

    It's not confidence more than it's optimism. All the talk can be around how this streak won't last but until they lose we're all just riding the wave. Everyone said the same thing about the Indians and next thing you know they have a playoff game tonight. It's something crazy (Gipper can back me up) that 5-6 new teams are in the playoffs each season in the NFL. So why not the Browns? I think you'll be pleasantly shocked how good the Browns defense is.

    Exactly- those pics may be totally out of context- and the second pass looked like it was on target. hahaha didn't watch the whole game I'm betting, but he should spend 3 minutes over on NFL.com and review the game highlights- two teriffic long passes, one to Gordon, another to Cameron. And he might want to take a look at how Haden shut down AJ Green who is arguably better than anyone on the Bills roster.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    This guy is a troll. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    Hahahaha like we don't know that already?

    @hoorta said:

    Exactly- those pics may be totally out of context- and the second pass looked like it was on target. hahaha didn't watch the whole game I'm betting, but he should spend 3 minutes over on NFL.com and review the game highlights- two teriffic long passes, one to Gordon, another to Cameron. And he might want to take a look at how Haden shut down AJ Green who is arguably better than anyone on the Bills roster.

    Hahahaha like we don't know that already?

    The second picture was pointing out he threw it right into double coverage. Not whether it was on target.

  • This guy is a troll. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    This guy is a troll. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    Ya, let met know when to pull the leash.

    Zombo

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    This guy is a troll. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    Ya, let met know when to pull the leash.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Ya, let met know when to pull the leash.

    Zombo

    Do it, big bad Admin man.

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