Josh Gordon to 49ers discussed according to Adam Schefter
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Gordon is one of three players on this team you absolutely cannot trade. I wouldn't let him go for two first rounders. Would any other team give up an elite WR, which Gordon is, for any kind of draft pick? No, why should Cleveland be the only stupid one. I know it's just discussion but it still pisses me off
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Trading him is nothing short of tanking the season. The risk is there for sure but we will never get the right offer commensurate with his skill level. You could draft WR in the 1st round for the next 10 years and not get a Josh Gordon caliper receiver. You have to assume the risk on him and hope for the best. If you win the roll you have an elite WR who could become the best in the game. If you lose the roll you blew a 2nd round pick. That is not such a rare occurrence.
Where have I heard this first sentance before?
Where have I heard this first sentance before?
The difference is that, this time, we'll be trading a player who's actually shown he's capable of being a true top 10 player at his position.
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The only thing that could justify this is if the Browns organization had some serious dirt on Gordon, something Hernandez-esque.
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Trading him is nothing short of tanking the season. The risk is there for sure but we will never get the right offer commensurate with his skill level. You could draft WR in the 1st round for the next 10 years and not get a Josh Gordon caliper receiver. You have to assume the risk on him and hope for the best. If you win the roll you have an elite WR who could become the best in the game. If you lose the roll you blew a 2nd round pick. That is not such a rare occurrence.
Where have I heard this first sentance before?
Where have I heard this firstytsentance before?
I never said anything remotely close to that regarding the T-Rich trade. He was and appears to continue to be average. You can't possibly think Gordon is average. He is worth more than any team will offer. It could take us many years to secure another receiver like him.
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The national media is still talking about Richardson like he's an elite player. I like Josh Gordon too but I'll give the front office the benefit of the doubt.
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Two first rounders for Gordon? They would take that in a heartbeat. As well they should
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Trading him is nothing short of tanking the season. The risk is there for sure but we will never get the right offer commensurate with his skill level. You could draft WR in the 1st round for the next 10 years and not get a Josh Gordon caliper receiver. You have to assume the risk on him and hope for the best. If you win the roll you have an elite WR who could become the best in the game. If you lose the roll you blew a 2nd round pick. That is not such a rare occurrence.
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Zombo said:
I find that difficult to believe.
And it is Banner that is running this franchise, not Lombardi.
Zombo
OK, so it may be Banner, moreso than Lombardi that has a hard on about getting rid of Heckert chosen players. Because I believe he has some sort of grudge against Heckert from Philly days, and he takes it out on Heckert's players.
OK, so it may be Banner, moreso than Lombardi that has a hard on about getting rid of Heckert chosen players. Because I believe he has some sort of grudge against Heckert from Philly days, and he takes it out on Heckert's players.
If true, I think it would have more to do with 1 more strike and he's out then Heckert or Philly or anything else. Kind of depends on whether you put much stock on what Adam Schefter tweets or not.
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Gordon is one of three players on this team you absolutely cannot trade. I wouldn't let him go for two first rounders. Would any other team give up an elite WR, which Gordon is, for any kind of draft pick? No, why should Cleveland be the only stupid one. I know it's just discussion but it still pisses me off
Gordon is one of three players on this team you absolutely cannot trade. I wouldn't let him go for two first rounders. Would any other team give up an elite WR, which Gordon is, for any kind of draft pick? No, why should Cleveland be the only stupid one. I know it's just discussion but it still pisses me off
This ^
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Gordons Contract:
7/16/2012: Signed a four-year, $5.342 million contract. The deal contains $3.8 million guaranteed -- a $2.324 million signing bonus, Gordon's first two base salaries, and $380,000 of his third-year salary. 2013: $632,802, 2014: $825,604 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2015: $1,068,406 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2016: Free Agent
This is chump change for a receiver of his quality. Essentially, there is little risk to keeping him, more risk letting him go, become a stud, and make Browns look like brown sphincters muscles (ie assholes)!
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return
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Browns-49ers have discussed trade for WR Josh Gordon. Deal unlikely with Mario Manningham coming off PUP, Crabtree slated to return in Nov.
shefter just tweeted about it. says deal "unlikely".
still pisses me off to no end that they're even seeking a trade. fuck the browns im done
Relax.
Just because other teams offer, and we listen, doesn't mean we are shopping him. Ya gotta listen.
But I wouldn't trade him for Two #1's right now ... he's a franchise receiver.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Relax.
Just because other teams offer, and we listen, doesn't mean we are shopping him. Ya gotta listen.
But I wouldn't trade him for Two #1's right now ... he's a franchise receiver.
Zombo
^+1 Nah we'll trade you Gordon for Frank Gore + a pick. Hey Niners, care to trade us Kapernic while you're in the market? We'll give you Weeden and one of our first rounders? Deal?
Gordon is one of three players on this team you absolutely cannot trade. I wouldn't let him go for two first rounders. Would any other team give up an elite WR, which Gordon is, for any kind of draft pick? No, why should Cleveland be the only stupid one. I know it's just discussion but it still pisses me off
What you and Zombo said.
Gordons Contract:
7/16/2012: Signed a four-year, $5.342 million contract. The deal contains $3.8 million guaranteed -- a $2.324 million signing bonus, Gordon's first two base salaries, and $380,000 of his third-year salary. 2013: $632,802, 2014: $825,604 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2015: $1,068,406 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2016: Free Agent
This is chump change for a receiver of his quality. Essentially, there is little risk to keeping him, more risk letting him go, become a stud, and make Browns look like brown sphincters muscles (ie assholes)!
Exactly
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return
Really? That's all the value Ian puts on a stud WR? In that case we should ask the Lions if they'd trade us Megatron for a second rounder, Man, I'd do that deal in a nanosecond. Hell, I'll even throw Greg Little in on top of it.
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Either Gordon's personal life is just an accident waiting to happen or he is complaining about money already. No one would trade his talent for a future pick at this point no matter who drafted who. Richardson was traded because he was unproductive and the Colts reached a little too far for his potential. But Gordon is becoming a star. My bullshit theory, if i had to make one, would be that promises were made by the old FO that the new FO won't keep, Gordon is bleeding from one of his holes about it, and eveyone else is starting to get tired of the internal saga. Or this kid is going to be the next Ricky Williams, if you know what I mean. It has to be extreme to even begin to make sense.
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if true they must have info on his partying habits, maybe we can pull Gore out of there or maybe even one of their defensive players like Aldon or one of the ILB'ers. I might consider that trade.
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Really? You can't imagine that the Browns FO would do something stupid?
Just got a tweet alert from "who gives a fuck"# Gordon seen drinking cough syrup and snorting blow off Moly Cyrus' cleavage at Larry Flynts club on west bank.
My ex-wife have been in "discussion" regarding her giving up some trim for weeks. Just cause you talk about sho don't mean it's gonnn happen. so it goes
I see upside to shopping him and "leaking" his "value".
Gordon is worth much more than a 2... period. Shows it everytime he sets foot on the field.
If teams are concerned enough about him getting on the field that a 2 is as high as they are willing to go, I use that to motivate Gordon to stay on the field and show them all what they missed out on.
If nothing else, the kid has pride... use it...
... snorting blow off Moly (Miley) Cyrus' cleavage at Larry Flynts club on west bank.
Miley has cleavage?
The national media is still talking about Richardson like he's an elite player.
Amazing isn't it?
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return
If Trent is worth a 1st, then Gordon is worth a 1st, 2nd & 3rd.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return
If Trent is worth a 1st, then Gordon is worth a 1st, 2nd & 3rd.
If Trent is worth a 1st, then Gordon is worth a 1st, 2nd & 3rd.
......in each of the next 3 drafts.
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