Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!

koalabazooka

@nickers said:
I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

If you want to pick up Manziel, you have to dedicate to the O-line. Manziel is short for a QB at 73 in, so he needs a Brees-esque front line to give him a clear line of vision. A dominant O-line would also maximize Manziel's running ability. It would be great if CLE could draft Jake Matthews with their 1st pick and then his QB with the 2nd 1st round pick or 2nd round pick.

Tour2ma

@nickers said:
I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

Warming to him nick... but like many others his off-season questions and questionable attitude in an earlier game were off-putting.

Started off looking like the dark-side of "swagger" was in play, i.e., arrogance.

@koalabazooka said:
It would be great if CLE could draft Jake Matthews with their 1st pick and then his QB with the 2nd 1st round pick or 2nd round pick.

I'm down with Jake, if he last's until our first #1 and any QB we liked is off the board. Schwartz showed again today that he is not the answer at RT. Jake immediately upgrades RT and is our next LT in waiting.

dab7291993

We don't need to spend a Top 10 pick on a LT for him to play RT, it's not as big of a luxury as you would think.

I'd rather make a defense pick than an OL pick in the top 10.

LBC mike

have we given up on hoyer for next year?

D Bone

@lbc-mike said:
have we given up on hoyer for next year?

2 games of good solid football isn't enough to gamble on him being the franchise QB we suck, I mean seek so bad. It's good enough to be on the roster and fight it out in camp, but we have to acquire another QB.

BrownB499

@tour2ma said:

I think it is safe to say that this thread is going to be very active for about another 6 months...

Watched a good chunk of Boyd this weekend. Threw two very nice deep balls to fairly well covered WRs. One negated by penalty, the other for TD... Otherwise a lot of short stuff, but kid looked decisive. One play was made to at least his third option. Still don't like to see him running, but seems to be secondary mode. I'm warming to him...

Also caught some Hundley... honestly reminded me of Wheezy. Locking onto first option... starring them down. Difference is he can pull ball down and take off... something that gives me zero comfort.

Did not see any Bridegewater, but heard some commentators saying he lost the Heisman this weekend.

Bridegwaters game against an average defense showed he's got some holes in his game...for a guy that's being hailed as

"THE "pick in this years draft...ya gotta be better than what he showed on Sat

@lbc-mike said:
have we given up on hoyer for next year?

You can't go into next season with a huge question mark at QB (Hoyer's health/ability)

This draft is loaded with QBs...we just gotta hope Banner can pick the right guy

Erie Dawg

Shep I'm kind of with you on marriota.

While you like Bridgewater and Boyd I'm saying Marriota will be the first QB taken this draft. Earlier I said early 3rd but most likely second round Marcus would be drafted. But after the ducks beat Alabama in the bcs title game this year his draft stock will will rise far and beyond B&B's. Then the combine will cement his value.

Not sure who said he looks average or whatever but look at his stats.

Then imagine what they would look like if Marcus completed a game this year.

Yeah the guy has yet to finish a game this season.

Tour2ma

@dab7291993 said:
We don't need to spend a Top 10 pick on a LT for him to play RT, it's not as big of a luxury as you would think.

Know you disagree and I am not trying to be smart ass (for a change), but I really don't get the luxury bit... We took a LT in round two 2-years ago and plopped him at RT. Are you happy with the results?

Could be Jake is the best player available when our first first rolls around. God knows his Daddy was probably the best to ever play multiple O-line positions.

Nab a quality interior lineman with the 2nd first-round pick and the O-line is set for the next few years...

Then add a Manziel or, yes, a McCarron down the board, hopefully to learn under Hoyer's tutalige.

Seems like a reasonable alternative to me...

Tim Couch Pulls Out

Hoyer and Foles.

Tour2ma

Love Foles... It's why he was in my 2012 mock.

Soju

we need either boyd, manziel or mariola. that's it. do whatever it takes to secure them. WHoever we take, they can sit a year behind Hoyer though.

slowburn

Forget about Hoys. He is damn near the weeds age and is facing starting over with a reconstructed knee. My crystal ball shows a career cut short in Cleveland

Soju

@slowburn said:
Forget about Hoys. He is damn near the weeds age and is facing starting over with a reconstructed knee. My crystal ball shows a career cut short in Cleveland

well, then, the old adage of, "Cleveland: the place where carees goes to die" is true after all.

slowburn

yup, if you are a QB in Cleveland you know it's not much longer before the final credits roll.

koalabazooka

Time for CLE to destroy [sic] Mariola's career!

BaconHound

Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

Erie Dawg

@baconhound said:
Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.

slowburn

@erie-dawg said:
No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.

lol

cuwoohio

@nickers said:
I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@cuwoohio said:

Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

Thanks, Johnny Football.