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  • We don't need to spend a Top 10 pick on a LT for him to play RT, it's not as big of a luxury as you would think.

    I'd rather make a defense pick than an OL pick in the top 10.

    @dab7291993 said:

    We don't need to spend a Top 10 pick on a LT for him to play RT, it's not as big of a luxury as you would think.

    Know you disagree and I am not trying to be smart ass (for a change), but I really don't get the luxury bit... We took a LT in round two 2-years ago and plopped him at RT. Are you happy with the results?

    Could be Jake is the best player available when our first first rolls around. God knows his Daddy was probably the best to ever play multiple O-line positions.

    Nab a quality interior lineman with the 2nd first-round pick and the O-line is set for the next few years...

    Then add a Manziel or, yes, a McCarron down the board, hopefully to learn under Hoyer's tutalige.

    Seems like a reasonable alternative to me...

  • Hoyer and Foles.

  • Love Foles... It's why he was in my 2012 mock.

  • we need either boyd, manziel or mariola. that's it. do whatever it takes to secure them. WHoever we take, they can sit a year behind Hoyer though.

  • Forget about Hoys. He is damn near the weeds age and is facing starting over with a reconstructed knee. My crystal ball shows a career cut short in Cleveland

  • Forget about Hoys. He is damn near the weeds age and is facing starting over with a reconstructed knee. My crystal ball shows a career cut short in Cleveland

    @slowburn said:

    Forget about Hoys. He is damn near the weeds age and is facing starting over with a reconstructed knee. My crystal ball shows a career cut short in Cleveland

    well, then, the old adage of, "Cleveland: the place where carees goes to die" is true after all.

  • yup, if you are a QB in Cleveland you know it's not much longer before the final credits roll.

  • Time for CLE to destroy [sic] Mariola's career!

  • Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

  • Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

    @baconhound said:

    Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

    No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.
  • @baconhound said:

    Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

    No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.

    @erie-dawg said:

    No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.

    lol

  • @tour2ma said:

    Oh and almost forgot...

    As mik mentioned earlier, Manziel is growing on me. Watched him vs. Ms St. last night and there is something there.

    Patience... read progressions... decision making... and more than enough arm.

    But what got me was the kid (ball boy? coaches son?) that joined him in kneeling and hand holding during the winning FG attempt. Can't fake that kind of magnetism. Smacks of leadership...

    As I watched him I started thinking about Russel Wilson...

    Still do not like running QB's, but...

    I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

    @nickers said:

    I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

  • @nickers said:

    I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

    Thanks, Johnny Football.

  • @nickers said:

    I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

    I'm not sure I would trade up to get him, but if he's there when we pick, I would take him

    Watching Johnny play in college...................he's way better then any draft pick or Free Agent QB we have had since 1999

  • We're going Hundley or Mariota unless we can con Jacksonville into giving us Teddy B.

  • I still say Mariota, Boyd, or Hundley. Mariota is making a serious push to lock in behind Bridgewater.

    Here's a look at how deep this class really is. David Fales and the kid with the wild Italian name (Garrapola?) Don't even make the list. Everyone here could go in the first 2 rounds. That's a ton.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/10/2013_college_quarterback_repor.html

  • @nickers said:

    I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

    but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.

    he'll get demolished in the NFL.

  • Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

    @baconhound said:

    Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.

    I agree. I would rather bring back Hoyer and draft a project buy in the 3rd to 4th round. Spend all of our higher picks on the right side of our Oline , WR and RB.

  • @cuwoohio said:

    Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.

    but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.

    he'll get demolished in the NFL.

    @miktoxic said:

    but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.

    he'll get demolished in the NFL.

    Drew Brees

  • @miktoxic said:

    but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.

    he'll get demolished in the NFL.

    Drew Brees

    @cuwoohio said:

    Drew Brees

    I'll wait for you to name another.

    Go ahead, say Russell Wilson.

    Then.........