Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!
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Forget about Hoys. He is damn near the weeds age and is facing starting over with a reconstructed knee. My crystal ball shows a career cut short in Cleveland
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Forget about Hoys. He is damn near the weeds age and is facing starting over with a reconstructed knee. My crystal ball shows a career cut short in Cleveland
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yup, if you are a QB in Cleveland you know it's not much longer before the final credits roll.
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Time for CLE to destroy [sic] Mariola's career!
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Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.
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Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.
No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.
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No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.
No a couple of us have been quite flaccid over the talent levels as well.
lol
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Oh and almost forgot...
As mik mentioned earlier, Manziel is growing on me. Watched him vs. Ms St. last night and there is something there.
Patience... read progressions... decision making... and more than enough arm.
But what got me was the kid (ball boy? coaches son?) that joined him in kneeling and hand holding during the winning FG attempt. Can't fake that kind of magnetism. Smacks of leadership...
As I watched him I started thinking about Russel Wilson...
Still do not like running QB's, but...
I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...
I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...
Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
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I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...
Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
Thanks, Johnny Football.
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I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...
Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
I'm not sure I would trade up to get him, but if he's there when we pick, I would take him
Watching Johnny play in college...................he's way better then any draft pick or Free Agent QB we have had since 1999
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We're going Hundley or Mariota unless we can con Jacksonville into giving us Teddy B.
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I still say Mariota, Boyd, or Hundley. Mariota is making a serious push to lock in behind Bridgewater.
Here's a look at how deep this class really is. David Fales and the kid with the wild Italian name (Garrapola?) Don't even make the list. Everyone here could go in the first 2 rounds. That's a ton.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/10/2013_college_quarterback_repor.html
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I thought I was the only one here that liked/want's Manziel...I really think not only does the kid have star power...I really think...that if he plays his cards right could be a great imfluence on this team with his type of swagger...Seems to have the I.Q. necessarry...its just...will "everything else" between his ears catchup/lineup so to speak..but..Im willing to gamble on him...
Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.
he'll get demolished in the NFL.
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Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.
Didn't read all 9 pages but am I the only one who thinks that there isn't a single "it" guy at the QB position in this draft? I'd love to see an upgrade at WR, RB, CB and LB then take a chance on a "system" guy.
I agree. I would rather bring back Hoyer and draft a project buy in the 3rd to 4th round. Spend all of our higher picks on the right side of our Oline , WR and RB.
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Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.
he'll get demolished in the NFL.
but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.
he'll get demolished in the NFL.
Drew Brees
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Manziel has what Brady, Peyton Manning, and Luck have; Football smarts. He also feels the pressure without being able to see it, and he knows where everyone on the field is, and is able to move well enough to find a lane to throw in. His football IQ is way ahead of his experience level, and he's a born leader, with enough swagger to be a little cocky. I'm pretty sure he'll enter the draft next year, and the Browns will have to make it happen. He's the real deal.
but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.
he'll get demolished in the NFL.
but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.
he'll get demolished in the NFL.
Yikes. Manziel does everything about three times better than McCoy. Manziel is Showtime. McCoy is nap time.
Browns should subjugate the QB position and draft around it. That is just a brilliant plan. You out your highest chips at QB. That's where you want your cap, your highest pick, your best player. You don't want a doughnut team. Everything else gets easier once you have The Guy.
Browns will draft their next QB no lower than 6th next year, and still easily add a back, WR, another corner, and a right side blocker. We almost have to sign three or four serious free agents and we have a second, two thirds, and two fourths to maneuver into a couple seconds and a third.
That's six or seven big adds in addition to the QB.
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]I'll wait for you to name another.
Go ahead, say Russell Wilson.
Then.......
Don't need another, and Wilson isn't in that class
Height is not an issue with a mobile QB.
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but he doesn't have what they have, height and a strong build. manziel is colt mccoy v2.0 with better legs.
he'll get demolished in the NFL.
Yikes. Manziel does everything about three times better than McCoy. Manziel is Showtime. McCoy is nap time.
Browns should subjugate the QB position and draft around it. That is just a brilliant plan. You out your highest chips at QB. That's where you want your cap, your highest pick, your best player. You don't want a doughnut team. Everything else gets easier once you have The Guy.
Browns will draft their next QB no lower than 6th next year, and still easily add a back, WR, another corner, and a right side blocker. We almost have to sign three or four serious free agents and we have a second, two thirds, and two fourths to maneuver into a couple seconds and a third.
That's six or seven big adds in addition to the QB.
Yikes. Manziel does everything about three times better than McCoy. Manziel is Showtime. McCoy is nap time.
Browns should subjugate the QB position and draft around it. That is just a brilliant plan. You out your highest chips at QB. That's where you want your cap, your highest pick, your best player. You don't want a doughnut team. Everything else gets easier once you have The Guy.
Browns will draft their next QB no lower than 6th next year, and still easily add a back, WR, another corner, and a right side blocker. We almost have to sign three or four serious free agents and we have a second, two thirds, and two fourths to maneuver into a couple seconds and a third.
That's six or seven big adds in addition to the QB.
To a point I agree. I'm just more cautious with my bargaining chips than you are. Care to repeat the Deadskins giving up the ranch to draft RG III? Dumb, & dumber. Griffin blows out another knee, and Washington is f**ked for the next 5 years. I will guarantee you one thing- if six qbs get drafted in the first round- three of them will bust. And don't give me crap that "it's so much more scientific now". Gabbert, Ponder, Tebow, Jafattus Russell, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Weeden, and Brady Quinn are living proof that's BS.
BTW, Manzel has the Heisman curse working against him. Gino Toretta, Tebow, Leinert, Crouch, Jason White, Troy Smith, Chris Weinke- wow, what a bunch of losers.
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Yikes. Manziel does everything about three times better than McCoy. Manziel is Showtime. McCoy is nap time.
Browns should subjugate the QB position and draft around it. That is just a brilliant plan. You out your highest chips at QB. That's where you want your cap, your highest pick, your best player. You don't want a doughnut team. Everything else gets easier once you have The Guy.
Browns will draft their next QB no lower than 6th next year, and still easily add a back, WR, another corner, and a right side blocker. We almost have to sign three or four serious free agents and we have a second, two thirds, and two fourths to maneuver into a couple seconds and a third.
That's six or seven big adds in addition to the QB.
To a point I agree. I'm just more cautious with my bargaining chips than you are. Care to repeat the Deadskins giving up the ranch to draft RG III? Dumb, & dumber. Griffin blows out another knee, and Washington is f**ked for the next 5 years. I will guarantee you one thing- if six qbs get drafted in the first round- three of them will bust. And don't give me crap that "it's so much more scientific now". Gabbert, Ponder, Tebow, Jafattus Russell, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Weeden, and Brady Quinn are living proof that's BS.
BTW, Manzel has the Heisman curse working against him. Gino Toretta, Tebow, Leinert, Crouch, Jason White, Troy Smith, Chris Weinke- wow, what a bunch of losers.
Care to repeat the Deadskins giving up the ranch to draft RG III? Dumb, & dumber..
Some bad luck and poor utilization but to get a franchise QB that's a risk I think you have to take. Especially in the situation we are in now similar to the mid / early 2000's Steelers being only a QB away from a legit team.
Just not sold on there being a real top notch QB in this up coming draft, then again I'm not too savvy on that sorta thing only time will tell.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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