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  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    Are you really this stupid

    @tour2ma said:

    Clearly not as stupid as you...

    Or at least not as subjective.

    That, my friend, is a picture perfect form tackle.

    His head is up...

    He is seeing what he is hitting...

    No contact to Wheezy's head...

    And clearly not below Wheezy's knees.

    And where do you think his left shoulder is?

    He is NOT leading with his helmet... period.

    I guess the only solution left is to decapitate all defenders...

    Problem solved!

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

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    W Wellhungsmurf wrote on last edited by Wellhungsmurf
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    @richiswhere said:

    Are you really this stupid

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

    I normally just lurk, created an account just for this idiot. STFU and say something educated rather then throwing around insults.. It was a legal hit, the NFL won't be popular in 5-10 years, QB's will have on yellow jerseys and if you go within a five yard "buffer" zone of them you will be flagged. Such a joke

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      @richiswhere said:

      Are you really this stupid

      Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

      I normally just lurk, created an account just for this idiot. STFU and say something educated rather then throwing around insults.. It was a legal hit, the NFL won't be popular in 5-10 years, QB's will have on yellow jerseys and if you go within a five yard "buffer" zone of them you will be flagged. Such a joke

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      @wellhungsmurf said:

      I normally just lurk, created an account just for this idiot. STFU before I find you and beat you senseless.. It was a legal hit, the NFL won't be popular in 5-10 years, QB's will have on yellow jerseys and if you go within a five yard "buffer" zone of them you will be flagged. Such a joke

      It's too bad you didn't post earlier ... "Well Hung Smurf" would have looked good on the back of the Tailgate T-shirt.

      Zombo

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        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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        Firstly, everything Rich says is just wrong...so we know that it's not because he led with his helmet.

        I can't recall specifically which hit it was, but any hit that takes Weeden to the ground after he releases the ball is technically considered illegal.

        There is no longer a "buffer zone" of one or two steps.

        If the ball is released and you take the QB to the ground, you can technically be called for roughing the passer.

        It's a stupid rule, and it bit us in the ass with the Groves penalty, but the refs are within their rights to call it.

        The NFL is becoming a joke. Sure, we need to eliminate as much risk as possible, but now they're messing with the integrity of the game.

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          Firstly, everything Rich says is just wrong...so we know that it's not because he led with his helmet.

          I can't recall specifically which hit it was, but any hit that takes Weeden to the ground after he releases the ball is technically considered illegal.

          There is no longer a "buffer zone" of one or two steps.

          If the ball is released and you take the QB to the ground, you can technically be called for roughing the passer.

          It's a stupid rule, and it bit us in the ass with the Groves penalty, but the refs are within their rights to call it.

          The NFL is becoming a joke. Sure, we need to eliminate as much risk as possible, but now they're messing with the integrity of the game.

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          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

          Firstly, everything Rich says is just wrong...so we know that it's not because he led with his helmet.

          I can't recall specifically which hit it was, but any hit that takes Weeden to the ground after he releases the ball is technically considered illegal.

          There is no longer a "buffer zone" of one or two steps.

          If the ball is released and you take the QB to the ground, you can technically be called for roughing the passer.

          It's a stupid rule, and it bit us in the ass with the Groves penalty, but the refs are within their rights to call it.

          The NFL is becoming a joke. Sure, we need to eliminate as much risk as possible, but now they're messing with the integrity of the game.

          Ya know, I think truth be told the original intent of these rules weren't bad. Players who line themselves up like missiles to tackle was/is extremely dangerous and I'm fine with blatant occurrences being flagged. The problem is the NFL was put in a crappy situation with this concussion situation and are now forced to overreact to it in today's game. I don't ever blame the refs TBH on these borderline calls. The league is putting so much pressure on them to get those calls right throwing the flag and being wrong is better than the other way around. It's just unfortunate all the way around.

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            W Wellhungsmurf wrote on last edited by
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            I agree if you hit someone like a "spear" and leave your feet that should be flagged. Suh hit with his hands, and hit to the chest. So how exactly is a defensive player supposed to hit a QB these days? Go low = flag, and now go for chest = flag. Maybe just grab their shoulders and gently "lay" them down. Another gripe is how many PI calls their are, whatever happened to let them battle for ball. But that's for another thread

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              @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

              Firstly, everything Rich says is just wrong...so we know that it's not because he led with his helmet.

              I can't recall specifically which hit it was, but any hit that takes Weeden to the ground after he releases the ball is technically considered illegal.

              There is no longer a "buffer zone" of one or two steps.

              If the ball is released and you take the QB to the ground, you can technically be called for roughing the passer.

              It's a stupid rule, and it bit us in the ass with the Groves penalty, but the refs are within their rights to call it.

              The NFL is becoming a joke. Sure, we need to eliminate as much risk as possible, but now they're messing with the integrity of the game.

              Ya know, I think truth be told the original intent of these rules weren't bad. Players who line themselves up like missiles to tackle was/is extremely dangerous and I'm fine with blatant occurrences being flagged. The problem is the NFL was put in a crappy situation with this concussion situation and are now forced to overreact to it in today's game. I don't ever blame the refs TBH on these borderline calls. The league is putting so much pressure on them to get those calls right throwing the flag and being wrong is better than the other way around. It's just unfortunate all the way around.

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              Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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              @jrb12711 said:

              Ya know, I think truth be told the original intent of these rules weren't bad. Players who line themselves up like missiles to tackle was/is extremely dangerous and I'm fine with blatant occurrences being flagged. The problem is the NFL was put in a crappy situation with this concussion situation and are now forced to overreact to it in today's game. I don't ever blame the refs TBH on these borderline calls. The league is putting so much pressure on them to get those calls right throwing the flag and being wrong is better than the other way around. It's just unfortunate all the way around.

              The main problem is the fact that we keep adding padding to them.

              What do you do when you feel like you're invincible? You take risks you normally wouldn't.

              These guys fly around the field like projectiles because they can. It doesn't hurt to hit someone anymore. These pads and helmets are becoming luxury items. My shoulder pads in high school had a built in cooling system, for fucks sake.

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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                I don't like Suh, but that wasn't a dirty hit. He has made so many however that he should be suspended or maybe banned by the NFL. Nothing wrong with a good hit, but purposely kicking someone in the nuts or slamming their head into the grass is dirty. The guy is a beast and probably won't make it till 40 years old.

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                  I agree if you hit someone like a "spear" and leave your feet that should be flagged. Suh hit with his hands, and hit to the chest. So how exactly is a defensive player supposed to hit a QB these days? Go low = flag, and now go for chest = flag. Maybe just grab their shoulders and gently "lay" them down. Another gripe is how many PI calls their are, whatever happened to let them battle for ball. But that's for another thread

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                  Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                  @wellhungsmurf said:

                  I agree if you hit someone like a "spear" and leave your feet that should be flagged. Suh hit with his hands, and hit to the chest. So how exactly is a defensive player supposed to hit a QB these days? Go low = flag, and now go for chest = flag. Maybe just grab their shoulders and gently "lay" them down. Another gripe is how many PI calls their are, whatever happened to let them battle for ball. But that's for another thread

                  It's not so much about the initial hit as it is the continuation. In the picture posted previously, that was as clean a hit as you can really make. The problem (I'm assuming), was after the initial hit.

                  I posted the rule in another thread, but I don't feel like looking for it.

                  Essentially, it states that once a QB releases the ball and a defender takes him to the ground, it's illegal. If a defender makes contact after the ball is released, he must do everything possible to keep him and the QB upright. If he lands on him, flag. If he even takes him down and only part of him lands on the QB, flag. If he throws him down and doesn't land on him, flag.

                  It's a crap rule.

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                    @jrb12711 said:

                    Ya know, I think truth be told the original intent of these rules weren't bad. Players who line themselves up like missiles to tackle was/is extremely dangerous and I'm fine with blatant occurrences being flagged. The problem is the NFL was put in a crappy situation with this concussion situation and are now forced to overreact to it in today's game. I don't ever blame the refs TBH on these borderline calls. The league is putting so much pressure on them to get those calls right throwing the flag and being wrong is better than the other way around. It's just unfortunate all the way around.

                    The main problem is the fact that we keep adding padding to them.

                    What do you do when you feel like you're invincible? You take risks you normally wouldn't.

                    These guys fly around the field like projectiles because they can. It doesn't hurt to hit someone anymore. These pads and helmets are becoming luxury items. My shoulder pads in high school had a built in cooling system, for fucks sake.

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                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                    The main problem is the fact that we keep adding padding to them.

                    What do you do when you feel like you're invincible? You take risks you normally wouldn't.

                    These guys fly around the field like projectiles because they can. It doesn't hurt to hit someone anymore. These pads and helmets are becoming luxury items. My shoulder pads in high school had a built in cooling system, for fucks sake.

                    I won't argue with that either. Hell I didn't really disagree with JoePa when he get rid of facemasks. I guarantee a guy would think twice about launching himself when he might lose all his teeth in the process. Too bad that will never happen though.

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                      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                      The main problem is the fact that we keep adding padding to them.

                      What do you do when you feel like you're invincible? You take risks you normally wouldn't.

                      These guys fly around the field like projectiles because they can. It doesn't hurt to hit someone anymore. These pads and helmets are becoming luxury items. My shoulder pads in high school had a built in cooling system, for fucks sake.

                      I won't argue with that either. Hell I didn't really disagree with JoePa when he get rid of facemasks. I guarantee a guy would think twice about launching himself when he might lose all his teeth in the process. Too bad that will never happen though.

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                      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                      @jrb12711 said:

                      I won't argue with that either. Hell I didn't really disagree with JoePa when he get rid of facemasks. I guarantee a guy would think twice about launching himself when he might lose all his teeth in the process. Too bad that will never happen though.

                      Yeah, too bad we won't go back to having 20 deaths per year.

                      🙄

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                        jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                        Barring any other angles on that it didnt look dirty or late. It pains me to say that because I hate Suh but he got screwed on that one,

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