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  • C Clevfan4life

    i'm at the point of cutting him first thing tommorrow morning.

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    S SunDawg wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    i'm at the point of cutting him first thing tommorrow morning.

    I'm 100% on board with that! He is not what he was advertised to be.

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      SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
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      What a piece of shit he is. Fumbling the game tying or game winning possession and dropping how many passes? This cluster fuck needs to be cut. Piece of dead dog shit.

      God hates the Browns. We get so close then the carrot gets pulled from our noses a little further, teasing.

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        i'm at the point of cutting him first thing tommorrow morning.

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        @clevfan4life said:

        i'm at the point of cutting him first thing tommorrow morning.

        why wait till tomorrow?
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          SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by Soju
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          he was sure handed but ties for 7th most dropped passes when he plays on the black hole, career-sucking the life out of you Browns. This team will never win shit. Cursed as shit

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

            I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

            He was our FA steal...

            His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

            And on...

            And on...

            He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

            The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

            And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

            He tried to make a good play a better play...

            And it went wrong...

            He is our sure handed return man.

            Put in to field all critical punts...

            Why?

            Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

            As for his "dropped passes"...

            Y'all need to go to the tape...

            Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

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              Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

              I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

              He was our FA steal...

              His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

              And on...

              And on...

              He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

              The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

              And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

              He tried to make a good play a better play...

              And it went wrong...

              He is our sure handed return man.

              Put in to field all critical punts...

              Why?

              Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

              As for his "dropped passes"...

              Y'all need to go to the tape...

              Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

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              SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
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              @tour2ma said:

              Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

              I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

              He was our FA steal...

              His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

              And on...

              And on...

              He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

              The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

              And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

              He tried to make a good play a better play...

              And it went wrong...

              He is our sure handed return man.

              Put in to field all critical punts...

              Why?

              Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

              As for his "dropped passes"...

              Y'all need to go to the tape...

              Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

              He's paid to catch the ball dumb fuck. Every throw is not going to be perfect, that's why he has hands--to reel in the catch.

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                Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                He was our FA steal...

                His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                And on...

                And on...

                He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                He tried to make a good play a better play...

                And it went wrong...

                He is our sure handed return man.

                Put in to field all critical punts...

                Why?

                Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                As for his "dropped passes"...

                Y'all need to go to the tape...

                Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

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                @tour2ma said:

                As for his "dropped passes"...

                Y'all need to go to the tape...

                Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

                He dropped one early in the game on a deep slant that looked to me like a good pass...hit him in the hands and in stride, could've been a nice gain.

                The 2nd drop was a really bad pass and was behind him but still could've been caught but not his fault for dropping it.

                The game ender....tough play...hard to call it a terrible pass when it was remarkably accurate considering the circumstances and a whole lot better than Weeden just tossing the ball out of bounds on a 4th down game ending play. It wasn't an easy catch by any means, but a pro receiver has to catch that pass.

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                  Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                  I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                  He was our FA steal...

                  His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                  And on...

                  And on...

                  He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                  The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                  And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                  He tried to make a good play a better play...

                  And it went wrong...

                  He is our sure handed return man.

                  Put in to field all critical punts...

                  Why?

                  Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                  As for his "dropped passes"...

                  Y'all need to go to the tape...

                  Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

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                  Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                  I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                  He was our FA steal...

                  His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                  And on...

                  And on...

                  He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                  The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                  And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                  He tried to make a good play a better play...

                  And it went wrong...

                  He is our sure handed return man.

                  Put in to field all critical punts...

                  Why?

                  Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                  As for his "dropped passes"...

                  Y'all need to go to the tape...

                  Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

                  Dropped passes are only registered if they hit the receivers hands, which they did.

                  If you're an NFL receiver and you're not 6'5 with 4.4 speed, you better catch everything thrown to you.

                  Inexcusable performance and inexcusable coaching for keeping him on the field after his second dropped pass and muffed punt.

                  Some days you just don't have it, and coaches have to recognize that. Today Bess didn't have it. I hope he feels like garbage all week.

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                    Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                    Before today's game the browns had 3 receivers in the top 15 for dropped passes.

                    #10 Bess

                    #12 ogbonnanya

                    #14 Gordon

                    I expect them to be higher tomorrow.

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                      Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                      I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                      He was our FA steal...

                      His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                      And on...

                      And on...

                      He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                      The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                      And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                      He tried to make a good play a better play...

                      And it went wrong...

                      He is our sure handed return man.

                      Put in to field all critical punts...

                      Why?

                      Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                      As for his "dropped passes"...

                      Y'all need to go to the tape...

                      Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

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                      Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                      I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                      He was our FA steal...

                      His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                      And on...

                      And on...

                      He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                      The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                      And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                      He tried to make a good play a better play...

                      And it went wrong...

                      He is our sure handed return man.

                      Put in to field all critical punts...

                      Why?

                      Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                      As for his "dropped passes"...

                      Y'all need to go to the tape...

                      Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

                      Yes we were happy when we signed him .... But why is it not OK to say he absolutely sucked today?

                      He did.

                      He knows it.

                      Everybody knows it.

                      But you.

                      Making excuses for a fumbled punt because he was trying to "make a good play a better play"?

                      He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.

                      You can't just give the ball away so easily.

                      Z

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                        Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                        I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                        He was our FA steal...

                        His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                        And on...

                        And on...

                        He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                        The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                        And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                        He tried to make a good play a better play...

                        And it went wrong...

                        He is our sure handed return man.

                        Put in to field all critical punts...

                        Why?

                        Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                        As for his "dropped passes"...

                        Y'all need to go to the tape...

                        Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                        I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                        He was our FA steal...

                        His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                        And on...

                        And on...

                        He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                        The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                        And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                        He tried to make a good play a better play...

                        And it went wrong...

                        He is our sure handed return man.

                        Put in to field all critical punts...

                        Why?

                        Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                        As for his "dropped passes"...

                        Y'all need to go to the tape...

                        Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

                        uh when they replayed his drops for the day only ONE was thrown behind him and he would have made catch of the year to bring that one in. Otherwise all those passes were balls HS receivers routinely net. And the last one? are you seriously suggesting that last throw wasn't right in his fucking lap?

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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          i'm at the point of cutting him first thing tommorrow morning.

                          why wait till tomorrow?
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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          @7moses7 said:

                          why wait till tomorrow?

                          ur right, paperwork should be filed tonight...still has to wait to go in till tommorrow.

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                            @tour2ma said:

                            Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                            I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                            He was our FA steal...

                            His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                            And on...

                            And on...

                            He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                            The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                            And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                            He tried to make a good play a better play...

                            And it went wrong...

                            He is our sure handed return man.

                            Put in to field all critical punts...

                            Why?

                            Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                            As for his "dropped passes"...

                            Y'all need to go to the tape...

                            Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

                            Dropped passes are only registered if they hit the receivers hands, which they did.

                            If you're an NFL receiver and you're not 6'5 with 4.4 speed, you better catch everything thrown to you.

                            Inexcusable performance and inexcusable coaching for keeping him on the field after his second dropped pass and muffed punt.

                            Some days you just don't have it, and coaches have to recognize that. Today Bess didn't have it. I hope he feels like garbage all week.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                            Some days you just don't have it, and coaches have to recognize that. Today Bess didn't have it.

                            Agree... but at the rate clowns around here fire players for having a bad game we could not field an 11 on 11 practice...

                            And we are only halfway through the season.

                            Zombo said:

                            He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.

                            Just because he fumbled it did not mean you had to recover it... and for KC no less.

                            What were you thinking?

                            http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000270255/Chiefs-recover-muffed-punt

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                              no he's right, a muffed punt is one that comes off the hands immediately. Bess caught the ball then....I dunno, it just fell out of his hands fuck whatever.

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...

                                I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...

                                He was our FA steal...

                                His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...

                                And on...

                                And on...

                                He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.

                                The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.

                                And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...

                                He tried to make a good play a better play...

                                And it went wrong...

                                He is our sure handed return man.

                                Put in to field all critical punts...

                                Why?

                                Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...

                                As for his "dropped passes"...

                                Y'all need to go to the tape...

                                Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.

                                Yes we were happy when we signed him .... But why is it not OK to say he absolutely sucked today?

                                He did.

                                He knows it.

                                Everybody knows it.

                                But you.

                                Making excuses for a fumbled punt because he was trying to "make a good play a better play"?

                                He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.

                                You can't just give the ball away so easily.

                                Z

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                                ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by
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                                Zombo said:

                                Yes we were happy when we signed him .... But why is it not OK to say he absolutely sucked today?

                                He did.

                                He knows it.

                                Everybody knows it.

                                But you.

                                Making excuses for a fumbled punt because he was trying to "make a good play a better play"?

                                He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.

                                You can't just give the ball away so easily.

                                Z

                                Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benched
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                                  Zombo is a traitor.

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                                    Zombo said:

                                    Yes we were happy when we signed him .... But why is it not OK to say he absolutely sucked today?

                                    He did.

                                    He knows it.

                                    Everybody knows it.

                                    But you.

                                    Making excuses for a fumbled punt because he was trying to "make a good play a better play"?

                                    He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.

                                    You can't just give the ball away so easily.

                                    Z

                                    Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benched
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                                    @comeonman said:

                                    Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benched

                                    Actually, I'm the one that said he had a bad game.

                                    Tour won't admit it.

                                    I am not one of the cut or bench guys.

                                    Just calling out a critically bad performance he had today.

                                    Zombo

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                                      @comeonman said:

                                      Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benched

                                      Actually, I'm the one that said he had a bad game.

                                      Tour won't admit it.

                                      I am not one of the cut or bench guys.

                                      Just calling out a critically bad performance he had today.

                                      Zombo

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      Zombo said:

                                      Tour won't admit it.

                                      Bess had a bad game...

                                      Better now?

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                                        Zombo said:

                                        Tour won't admit it.

                                        Bess had a bad game...

                                        Better now?

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                                        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Bess had a bad game...

                                        Better now?

                                        Fumbled punt was a bad, bad, bad, bad play on his part.

                                        The drops really hurt us too.

                                        Deep down, I know you agree ... and NOW I feel better.

                                        Zombo

                                        --He's a standup guy, he'll have a good game next week ... but he's gotta be leading the league in drop percentage ... massive disappointment from what we were expecting from him.

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          Odd thing is if you google "Bess punt muff" one vs. the Bengals in 2010 pops up... back then Bess had long hair.

                                          Google "Bess muffed punt" and today's shows up...

                                          If he only muffs one every three years, I can live with that.

                                          And being that Bess is our "precision route/ hands guy", it's just possible that if he has more than two games in a row with the same QB, then his production will improve.

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