Pittsburgh Sucks
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Shep is there a qb in the league whose praises you don't sing?
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Jadeveon Clowney isn't a world beater, but he is very good.
He has the possibility of being better than Peppers was early on, but he also is a large bust factor.
Jadeveon Clowney isn't a world beater, but he is very good.
He has the possibility of being better than Peppers was early on, but he also is a large bust factor.
from what i've seen of him, he's an elite pass rusher but also does the stuff you don't see on TV well like holding up at the point. He's a freak. His work ethic definitely remains to be seen. I'm not going to completely hold it against him that he's coasting this year cause there is a shit ton of money for him on the line. But I would absolutely be happy if the browns could take him and get Miller in the later rounds...let Hoyer start next season. I would rather keep Clowney away from pgh than to take another flyer on one of these college qb's.
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Jadeveon Clowney isn't a world beater, but he is very good.
He has the possibility of being better than Peppers was early on, but he also is a large bust factor.
from what i've seen of him, he's an elite pass rusher but also does the stuff you don't see on TV well like holding up at the point. He's a freak. His work ethic definitely remains to be seen. I'm not going to completely hold it against him that he's coasting this year cause there is a shit ton of money for him on the line. But I would absolutely be happy if the browns could take him and get Miller in the later rounds...let Hoyer start next season. I would rather keep Clowney away from pgh than to take another flyer on one of these college qb's.
from what i've seen of him, he's an elite pass rusher but also does the stuff you don't see on TV well like holding up at the point. He's a freak. His work ethic definitely remains to be seen. I'm not going to completely hold it against him that he's coasting this year cause there is a shit ton of money for him on the line. But I would absolutely be happy if the browns could take him and get Miller in the later rounds...let Hoyer start next season. I would rather keep Clowney away from pgh than to take another flyer on one of these college qb's.
He'd have to move to OLB for us and I just don't see that happening. We already have three solid OLB's and Groves.
Clowney is a nice guy and an athletic freak, but it's tough for me to spend a top 5 pick on a DE when we have so many other pressing needs.
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Yeah...wheres the idiot that said Antonio Brown was better than Mike Wallace...hows that working out?...fuck you stools...rot in hell for all I care...and they already drafted a QB in Landry Jones who has a windup slower than Bygone Leftwich
He is better than mike wallace. Compare their stats so far this season, wallace is a one trick pony getting paid 70 million.
He is better than mike wallace. Compare their stats so far this season, wallace is a one trick pony getting paid 70 million.
I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
steeler fans laughed at me when i told them of their soon demise 2 years ago, how we'd be on an upswing and how they were getting old and gonna suck. well who's laughing now bitches?
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steeler fans laughed at me when i told them of their soon demise 2 years ago, how we'd be on an upswing and how they were getting old and gonna suck. well who's laughing now bitches?
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Hehe. Just for the entertainment value. Read some of the comments too.
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Hehe. Just for the entertainment value. Read some of the comments too.
Hehe. Just for the entertainment value. Read some of the comments too.
Some are looking to light a little fire under HC Tomlin's seat...
"I was a Tomlin fan, like most of us are/were, but the true measure of a coach is what he does under extreme adversity, but his recent M.O. is to blame players; threaten players; never once looking at the coaching staff as part of the blame or solution. Look back at the drafts and tell us how well you did. You and Colbert look into the mirror—it will be as plain as the nose on your face."
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I don't think you can underestimate how much Big Ben taking sacks has done to his career too. Guys like Brady and Manning have been statues for pretty much their whole careers. Hell the second Brady sees people coming most times he just gets down to avoid a hit (not that it's a bad thing). Dude has taken a beating pretty much his whole NFL career and I think that catches up to you eventually.
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I don't think you can underestimate how much Big Ben taking sacks has done to his career too. Guys like Brady and Manning have been statues for pretty much their whole careers. Hell the second Brady sees people coming most times he just gets down to avoid a hit (not that it's a bad thing). Dude has taken a beating pretty much his whole NFL career and I think that catches up to you eventually.
I don't think you can underestimate how much Big Ben taking sacks has done to his career too. Guys like Brady and Manning have been statues for pretty much their whole careers. Hell the second Brady sees people coming most times he just gets down to avoid a hit (not that it's a bad thing). Dude has taken a beating pretty much his whole NFL career and I think that catches up to you eventually.
I hope the Browns add to his misery the next time we see them. How about matching that 9 sack game we gave him a couple of years ago?
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He is better than mike wallace. Compare their stats so far this season, wallace is a one trick pony getting paid 70 million.
I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
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I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
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This Mike Wallace/Antonio Brown argument sounds a lot like the arguments people used to have sticking up for any Browns receiver for the past ten years.
"But...but...but he runs excellent routes. And his QB is just not good. And he has potential."
He's still undersized. He's 5'10 and runs a 4.5 40. He's not going to compete for jump balls with bigger corners and he's not blazing past coverages into the second level. He just isn't, no matter how perfect his routes may be.
Getting rid of Wallace was a good move, I don't deny it. He's a diva with consistency problems. But he also was an athletic freak. You needed, and still do need, someone to replace him. That someone isn't Brown.
Brown is not a #1. He's a great #2. He's a receiver who, like you said, will run crisp routes and sit in soft spots in zone. He'll benefit from playing against lesser corners and not being the focal point of the offense.
Look at what having Gordon has done for our offense. Little and Bess have looked like legitimate WR's, when we have had a QB who can recognize open players.
The Steelers need a #1, and there's a couple in this draft. Personally, I hope you don't get one...but I believe you will.
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"Whats wrong with shittsburg?" I'll tell you whats wrong, WHO CARES!
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I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue.
I won't argue with you. That said, overall, the Steeler WR corps is highly diminished without Wallace there as a threat.
Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
Oh, yea, your typical line: no Cleveland Browns fan knows anything at all about the rest of the league. Maybe we don't....we just all know more than you know.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end.
So, I guess your motto really is "play like Clowns for Clowney".
Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own.
Yes, he has elevated his play from terrible to simply below average.
Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss.
One of the reasons we here haven't seen much of Pittsburgh play is that they always put their games on against when the Browns play....even when they shouldn't. Like this past week. Why did they both have to be put on at 4:25? So, for that reason, not having really seen the Steelers play, it is surprising that you say the Woodley hasn't played well. I guess no matter how good a player is, he can still only be as good as the talent surrounding him.
Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
Maybe you can do something right by beating Baltimore when you play them. The Last Place Bowl....appropriate.
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As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup,
Ward was graded out as being the Top SS in the AFC...and second in the NFL...so he should/could be starting in the Pro Bowl next to Haden....who handled both AJ Green and Megatron pretty well when they played.
Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S.
Its Gipson. Get it right.
There I fixed it- happy now??? -Hoorta
Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
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