Pittsburgh Sucks
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Hehe. Just for the entertainment value. Read some of the comments too.
Hehe. Just for the entertainment value. Read some of the comments too.
Some are looking to light a little fire under HC Tomlin's seat...
"I was a Tomlin fan, like most of us are/were, but the true measure of a coach is what he does under extreme adversity, but his recent M.O. is to blame players; threaten players; never once looking at the coaching staff as part of the blame or solution. Look back at the drafts and tell us how well you did. You and Colbert look into the mirror—it will be as plain as the nose on your face."
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I don't think you can underestimate how much Big Ben taking sacks has done to his career too. Guys like Brady and Manning have been statues for pretty much their whole careers. Hell the second Brady sees people coming most times he just gets down to avoid a hit (not that it's a bad thing). Dude has taken a beating pretty much his whole NFL career and I think that catches up to you eventually.
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I don't think you can underestimate how much Big Ben taking sacks has done to his career too. Guys like Brady and Manning have been statues for pretty much their whole careers. Hell the second Brady sees people coming most times he just gets down to avoid a hit (not that it's a bad thing). Dude has taken a beating pretty much his whole NFL career and I think that catches up to you eventually.
I don't think you can underestimate how much Big Ben taking sacks has done to his career too. Guys like Brady and Manning have been statues for pretty much their whole careers. Hell the second Brady sees people coming most times he just gets down to avoid a hit (not that it's a bad thing). Dude has taken a beating pretty much his whole NFL career and I think that catches up to you eventually.
I hope the Browns add to his misery the next time we see them. How about matching that 9 sack game we gave him a couple of years ago?
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He is better than mike wallace. Compare their stats so far this season, wallace is a one trick pony getting paid 70 million.
I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
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I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
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This Mike Wallace/Antonio Brown argument sounds a lot like the arguments people used to have sticking up for any Browns receiver for the past ten years.
"But...but...but he runs excellent routes. And his QB is just not good. And he has potential."
He's still undersized. He's 5'10 and runs a 4.5 40. He's not going to compete for jump balls with bigger corners and he's not blazing past coverages into the second level. He just isn't, no matter how perfect his routes may be.
Getting rid of Wallace was a good move, I don't deny it. He's a diva with consistency problems. But he also was an athletic freak. You needed, and still do need, someone to replace him. That someone isn't Brown.
Brown is not a #1. He's a great #2. He's a receiver who, like you said, will run crisp routes and sit in soft spots in zone. He'll benefit from playing against lesser corners and not being the focal point of the offense.
Look at what having Gordon has done for our offense. Little and Bess have looked like legitimate WR's, when we have had a QB who can recognize open players.
The Steelers need a #1, and there's a couple in this draft. Personally, I hope you don't get one...but I believe you will.
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"Whats wrong with shittsburg?" I'll tell you whats wrong, WHO CARES!
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I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue.
I won't argue with you. That said, overall, the Steeler WR corps is highly diminished without Wallace there as a threat.
Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
Oh, yea, your typical line: no Cleveland Browns fan knows anything at all about the rest of the league. Maybe we don't....we just all know more than you know.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end.
So, I guess your motto really is "play like Clowns for Clowney".
Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own.
Yes, he has elevated his play from terrible to simply below average.
Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss.
One of the reasons we here haven't seen much of Pittsburgh play is that they always put their games on against when the Browns play....even when they shouldn't. Like this past week. Why did they both have to be put on at 4:25? So, for that reason, not having really seen the Steelers play, it is surprising that you say the Woodley hasn't played well. I guess no matter how good a player is, he can still only be as good as the talent surrounding him.
Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
Maybe you can do something right by beating Baltimore when you play them. The Last Place Bowl....appropriate.
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As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup,
Ward was graded out as being the Top SS in the AFC...and second in the NFL...so he should/could be starting in the Pro Bowl next to Haden....who handled both AJ Green and Megatron pretty well when they played.
Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S.
Its Gipson. Get it right.
There I fixed it- happy now??? -Hoorta
Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
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I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
You cant comphrehend well..When I spoke of comparing an ant to an Elephant..I meant Tanehill/Roethlisberger. But your hard on for Antonio Brown got in the way..Mike Wallace ,yes has issues. But he has speed and he's not complete garbage. He would actually help your team right now. How much,remains to be seen (if he was there). Antonio Brown doesnt scare anybody so quit over valuing his effectiveness. I think the rest of the gallery here, made very salient points.
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As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
I didn't run a laundry list of holes. They drafted Shark Thomas to replace Clark. McClendon can bump over to defensive end after Keisel hangs them up and we'd need a nose tackle. We're young across all 4 linebacker positions and well above average at two in Timmons and Woodley (Jarvis Jones is obviously still a rook so the verdict is very much still out) My previous shot at Woodley was undeserved as he's been very good this season BUT McClendon isn't getting it done up the middle so Woodely isn't getting as much action as he deserves on the outside because the middle of our d-line is getting gashed. I just read an article today about he's graded out to the second most effective OLB in the NFL this season. Hoorta you should also have plenty of depth with the ridiculous number of top 10 draft picks the Browns have had over the last 10 years, while the steelers routinely draft at the back half of the draft. As far as our secondary is concerned Ryan Clark is done and Lebeau has been using Polamalu as a gloriified linebacker most of the year. I don't want ot hear about skrine or gipson as neither are setting the world on fire and prior to this most recent win most of you were ready to run half your team out of town. It's funny how a win changes everything (it's no different in Pittsburgh). As far as the "popular opinion" on Tomlin is concerned it's ridiculous. People aren't used to the Steelers looking as crappy as they have this season so a lot of the chicken little morons are coming out of the woodwork calling for heads that don't deserve to be named. The knowledgable public opinion is that Tomlin had Haley forced on him and that it's likely time for Dick to hang them up and the heir apparent to be brought to the forefront. However one question remains and that's is it going to be Butler or a 4-3 guy which is Tomlin's preferred scheme.
Now for Nickers. I at no point in our little back and forth mentioned Ben and Tannehill, you did. The comparison being discussed was Brown and Wallace, so it's you that can't comprehend or stay on task. I don't care who is throwing either receiver the ball. Brown is a better WR, it's the reason he was paid and Wallace wasn't, it's the reason he's moving the chains at a much greater rate and you're a damn idiot to think teams don't fear Brown. He's still a maturing in his role as a number 1. I expect him to continue to improve and he's already on a nice pace.
Gipper, I said Nickers doesn't know WTF he's talking about, at no point did I suggest all Browns fans don't. Heyward is also playing well above the line, PFT has graded him out very high the last few games.
Either way I'll come back when you guys lose again to experience yet another 180 in regards to board popular opinion.
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Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
I didn't run a laundry list of holes. They drafted Shark Thomas to replace Clark. McClendon can bump over to defensive end after Keisel hangs them up and we'd need a nose tackle. We're young across all 4 linebacker positions and well above average at two in Timmons and Woodley (Jarvis Jones is obviously still a rook so the verdict is very much still out) My previous shot at Woodley was undeserved as he's been very good this season BUT McClendon isn't getting it done up the middle so Woodely isn't getting as much action as he deserves on the outside because the middle of our d-line is getting gashed. I just read an article today about he's graded out to the second most effective OLB in the NFL this season. Hoorta you should also have plenty of depth with the ridiculous number of top 10 draft picks the Browns have had over the last 10 years, while the steelers routinely draft at the back half of the draft. As far as our secondary is concerned Ryan Clark is done and Lebeau has been using Polamalu as a gloriified linebacker most of the year. I don't want ot hear about skrine or gipson as neither are setting the world on fire and prior to this most recent win most of you were ready to run half your team out of town. It's funny how a win changes everything (it's no different in Pittsburgh). As far as the "popular opinion" on Tomlin is concerned it's ridiculous. People aren't used to the Steelers looking as crappy as they have this season so a lot of the chicken little morons are coming out of the woodwork calling for heads that don't deserve to be named. The knowledgable public opinion is that Tomlin had Haley forced on him and that it's likely time for Dick to hang them up and the heir apparent to be brought to the forefront. However one question remains and that's is it going to be Butler or a 4-3 guy which is Tomlin's preferred scheme.
Now for Nickers. I at no point in our little back and forth mentioned Ben and Tannehill, you did. The comparison being discussed was Brown and Wallace, so it's you that can't comprehend or stay on task. I don't care who is throwing either receiver the ball. Brown is a better WR, it's the reason he was paid and Wallace wasn't, it's the reason he's moving the chains at a much greater rate and you're a damn idiot to think teams don't fear Brown. He's still a maturing in his role as a number 1. I expect him to continue to improve and he's already on a nice pace.
Gipper, I said Nickers doesn't know WTF he's talking about, at no point did I suggest all Browns fans don't. Heyward is also playing well above the line, PFT has graded him out very high the last few games.
Either way I'll come back when you guys lose again to experience yet another 180 in regards to board popular opinion.
I didn't run a laundry list of holes.
Because you would need a scroll?
They drafted Shark Thomas to replace Clark.
I thought he was a SS...there to replace Polamalu
McClendon can bump over to defensive end after Keisel hangs them up and we'd need a nose tackle. We're young across all 4 linebacker positions and well above average at two in Timmons and Woodley (Jarvis Jones is obviously still a rook so the verdict is very much still out) My previous shot at Woodley was undeserved as he's been very good this season BUT McClendon isn't getting it done up the middle so Woodely isn't getting as much action as he deserves on the outside because the middle of our d-line is getting gashed. I just read an article today about he's graded out to the second most effective OLB in the NFL this season.
Hoorta you should also have plenty of depth with the ridiculous number of top 10 draft picks the Browns have had over the last 10 years, while the steelers routinely draft at the back half of the draft.
My point to you exactly...that just because you have a top pick doesn't automatically mean it is going to work out....the Steeler CAN blow a top ten pick as easily as the Browns have done so many times....and as easily as they have blow their own picks in other rounds many times.
As far as our secondary is concerned Ryan Clark is done and Lebeau has been using Polamalu as a gloriified linebacker most of the year. I don't want ot hear about skrine or gipson as neither are setting the world on fire and prior to this most recent win most of you were ready to run half your team out of town.
Actually, both Skrine and Gipson are playing quite well...better even than expected. By why should you know that. You don't know anything about the NFL outside of your own team.
It's funny how a win changes everything (it's no different in Pittsburgh). As far as the "popular opinion" on Tomlin is concerned it's ridiculous. People aren't used to the Steelers looking as crappy as they have this season so a lot of the chicken little morons are coming out of the woodwork calling for heads that don't deserve to be named.
Welcome to the world of the basement in the division.
The knowledgable public opinion is that Tomlin had Haley forced on him and that it's likely time for Dick to hang them up and the heir apparent to be brought to the forefront. However one question remains and that's is it going to be Butler or a 4-3 guy which is Tomlin's preferred scheme.
Yes, you can bring in Mark Malone to replace Terry Bradshaw and not miss a beat.
Now for Nickers. I at no point in our little back and forth mentioned Ben and Tannehill, you did. The comparison being discussed was Brown and Wallace, so it's you that can't comprehend or stay on task. I don't care who is throwing either receiver the ball. Brown is a better WR, it's the reason he was paid and Wallace wasn't, it's the reason he's moving the chains at a much greater rate and you're a damn idiot to think teams don't fear Brown. He's still a maturing in his role as a number 1. I expect him to continue to improve and he's already on a nice pace.
I think they respect him fine...but no, I don't think teams fear Brown.
Joe Haden so far has had to play against AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Torrey Smith, and others, including Mike Wallace....and contained him all. He is not shaking in his boots at the prospect of handling Antonio Brown.
Gipper, I said Nickers doesn't know WTF he's talking about, at no point did I suggest all Browns fans don't. Heyward is also playing well above the line, PFT has graded him out very high the last few games.
PFT....is the perfect acronym for that comment.
Either way I'll come back when you guys lose again to experience yet another 180 in regards to board popular opinion.
Lose again? This team is 4-5. It lost 3 games before winning this last one. We are hopeful, but certainly not on any high horse. But our team is on a horse at least. Yours is like riding one of those Vietnamese pigs.
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I don't know why anyone gives a shit what is wrong with Pittsburgh? Be happy. They suck.
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Like Morgan Freeman said in Ironman- "Steelers don't sign Free Agents, haven't you got the news?"
I posted elsewhere V- you just named a laundry list of holes you have to fill- and you're going to do that magically in one off season? With a hell of a lot of luck, make that 2 see ya in about 2016, if you hit on all your picks- BTW Ben will be 34 and beat to a pulp by then, so wouldn't be surprised if you're in the QB market too. Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart ring any bells?
Saw on PPG your fans aren't taking kindly to Tomlin's handling of his first taste of real adversity. Seriously- suck for another 12 years and your entitled fans (if there's any left) will know what we've been through.
Oh I was going to rag on your wrs but I decided not to- they're having decent years- not going to trade you Gordon for either of them right now. LOL a few years back I said there were maybe 2 Browns that could start on the Steelers- well at least on D it's the other way around now. We have DL backups that would be starting for you- and don't even start on what the Browns secondary looks like compared to yours. Joe Haden is heading to the Pro Bowl, Ward may make it as a backup, Skrine has come on in his third year, and Gipson is a solid S. Might give you the edge at a couple LB positions. Enjoy the basement- that's where you were for about 30 years before 1970.
I didn't run a laundry list of holes. They drafted Shark Thomas to replace Clark. McClendon can bump over to defensive end after Keisel hangs them up and we'd need a nose tackle. We're young across all 4 linebacker positions and well above average at two in Timmons and Woodley (Jarvis Jones is obviously still a rook so the verdict is very much still out) My previous shot at Woodley was undeserved as he's been very good this season BUT McClendon isn't getting it done up the middle so Woodely isn't getting as much action as he deserves on the outside because the middle of our d-line is getting gashed. I just read an article today about he's graded out to the second most effective OLB in the NFL this season. Hoorta you should also have plenty of depth with the ridiculous number of top 10 draft picks the Browns have had over the last 10 years, while the steelers routinely draft at the back half of the draft. As far as our secondary is concerned Ryan Clark is done and Lebeau has been using Polamalu as a gloriified linebacker most of the year. I don't want ot hear about skrine or gipson as neither are setting the world on fire and prior to this most recent win most of you were ready to run half your team out of town. It's funny how a win changes everything (it's no different in Pittsburgh). As far as the "popular opinion" on Tomlin is concerned it's ridiculous. People aren't used to the Steelers looking as crappy as they have this season so a lot of the chicken little morons are coming out of the woodwork calling for heads that don't deserve to be named. The knowledgable public opinion is that Tomlin had Haley forced on him and that it's likely time for Dick to hang them up and the heir apparent to be brought to the forefront. However one question remains and that's is it going to be Butler or a 4-3 guy which is Tomlin's preferred scheme.
Now for Nickers. I at no point in our little back and forth mentioned Ben and Tannehill, you did. The comparison being discussed was Brown and Wallace, so it's you that can't comprehend or stay on task. I don't care who is throwing either receiver the ball. Brown is a better WR, it's the reason he was paid and Wallace wasn't, it's the reason he's moving the chains at a much greater rate and you're a damn idiot to think teams don't fear Brown. He's still a maturing in his role as a number 1. I expect him to continue to improve and he's already on a nice pace.
Gipper, I said Nickers doesn't know WTF he's talking about, at no point did I suggest all Browns fans don't. Heyward is also playing well above the line, PFT has graded him out very high the last few games.
Either way I'll come back when you guys lose again to experience yet another 180 in regards to board popular opinion.
I didn't run a laundry list of holes. They drafted Shark Thomas to replace Clark. McClendon can bump over to defensive end after Keisel hangs them up and we'd need a nose tackle. We're young across all 4 linebacker positions and well above average at two in Timmons and Woodley (Jarvis Jones is obviously still a rook so the verdict is very much still out) My previous shot at Woodley was undeserved as he's been very good this season BUT McClendon isn't getting it done up the middle so Woodely isn't getting as much action as he deserves on the outside because the middle of our d-line is getting gashed. I just read an article today about he's graded out to the second most effective OLB in the NFL this season. Hoorta you should also have plenty of depth with the ridiculous number of top 10 draft picks the Browns have had over the last 10 years, while the steelers routinely draft at the back half of the draft. As far as our secondary is concerned Ryan Clark is done and Lebeau has been using Polamalu as a gloriified linebacker most of the year. I don't want ot hear about skrine or gipson as neither are setting the world on fire and prior to this most recent win most of you were ready to run half your team out of town. It's funny how a win changes everything (it's no different in Pittsburgh). As far as the "popular opinion" on Tomlin is concerned it's ridiculous. People aren't used to the Steelers looking as crappy as they have this season so a lot of the chicken little morons are coming out of the woodwork calling for heads that don't deserve to be named. The knowledgable public opinion is that Tomlin had Haley forced on him and that it's likely time for Dick to hang them up and the heir apparent to be brought to the forefront. However one question remains and that's is it going to be Butler or a 4-3 guy which is Tomlin's preferred scheme.
Now for Nickers. I at no point in our little back and forth mentioned Ben and Tannehill, you did. The comparison being discussed was Brown and Wallace, so it's you that can't comprehend or stay on task. I don't care who is throwing either receiver the ball. Brown is a better WR, it's the reason he was paid and Wallace wasn't, it's the reason he's moving the chains at a much greater rate and you're a damn idiot to think teams don't fear Brown. He's still a maturing in his role as a number 1. I expect him to continue to improve and he's already on a nice pace.
Gipper, I said Nickers doesn't know WTF he's talking about, at no point did I suggest all Browns fans don't. Heyward is also playing well above the line, PFT has graded him out very high the last few games.
Either way I'll come back when you guys lose again to experience yet another 180 in regards to board popular opinion.
Im not discounting Brown completely, douch nozzle...Get it in your head...the league does not fear him. And as Gipper lamented ,nor does Haden. Haden will make Brown his bitch...I'll guarantee it...No one really gives a damn but you...Last I checked...your 2-6. I wouldnt be acting all high and mighty...Are you telling us Brown is better than AJ.Green?...have you watched him lately? (Green)...Hell, Gordon is better than Brown by miles, and its only his 2nd season...wipe that smug better than thou face off...your in for a long drag this season...enjoy being at the bottom...it's where over zealous losers like you belong.
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I didn't run a laundry list of holes. They drafted Shark Thomas to replace Clark. McClendon can bump over to defensive end after Keisel hangs them up and we'd need a nose tackle. We're young across all 4 linebacker positions and well above average at two in Timmons and Woodley (Jarvis Jones is obviously still a rook so the verdict is very much still out) My previous shot at Woodley was undeserved as he's been very good this season BUT McClendon isn't getting it done up the middle so Woodely isn't getting as much action as he deserves on the outside because the middle of our d-line is getting gashed. I just read an article today about he's graded out to the second most effective OLB in the NFL this season. Hoorta you should also have plenty of depth with the ridiculous number of top 10 draft picks the Browns have had over the last 10 years, while the steelers routinely draft at the back half of the draft. As far as our secondary is concerned Ryan Clark is done and Lebeau has been using Polamalu as a gloriified linebacker most of the year. I don't want ot hear about skrine or gipson as neither are setting the world on fire and prior to this most recent win most of you were ready to run half your team out of town. It's funny how a win changes everything (it's no different in Pittsburgh). As far as the "popular opinion" on Tomlin is concerned it's ridiculous. People aren't used to the Steelers looking as crappy as they have this season so a lot of the chicken little morons are coming out of the woodwork calling for heads that don't deserve to be named. The knowledgable public opinion is that Tomlin had Haley forced on him and that it's likely time for Dick to hang them up and the heir apparent to be brought to the forefront. However one question remains and that's is it going to be Butler or a 4-3 guy which is Tomlin's preferred scheme.
Now for Nickers. I at no point in our little back and forth mentioned Ben and Tannehill, you did. The comparison being discussed was Brown and Wallace, so it's you that can't comprehend or stay on task. I don't care who is throwing either receiver the ball. Brown is a better WR, it's the reason he was paid and Wallace wasn't, it's the reason he's moving the chains at a much greater rate and you're a damn idiot to think teams don't fear Brown. He's still a maturing in his role as a number 1. I expect him to continue to improve and he's already on a nice pace.
Gipper, I said Nickers doesn't know WTF he's talking about, at no point did I suggest all Browns fans don't. Heyward is also playing well above the line, PFT has graded him out very high the last few games.
Either way I'll come back when you guys lose again to experience yet another 180 in regards to board popular opinion.
Im not discounting Brown completely, douch nozzle...Get it in your head...the league does not fear him. And as Gipper lamented ,nor does Haden. Haden will make Brown his bitch...I'll guarantee it...No one really gives a damn but you...Last I checked...your 2-6. I wouldnt be acting all high and mighty...Are you telling us Brown is better than AJ.Green?...have you watched him lately? (Green)...Hell, Gordon is better than Brown by miles, and its only his 2nd season...wipe that smug better than thou face off...your in for a long drag this season...enjoy being at the bottom...it's where over zealous losers like you belong.
Im not discounting Brown completely, douch nozzle...Get it in your head...the league does not fear him. And as Gipper lamented ,nor does Haden. Haden will make Brown his bitch...I'll guarantee it...No one really gives a damn but you...Last I checked...your 2-6. I wouldnt be acting all high and mighty...Are you telling us Brown is better than AJ.Green?...have you watched him lately? (Green)...Hell, Gordon is better than Brown by miles, and its only his 2nd season...wipe that smug better than thou face off...your in for a long drag this season...enjoy being at the bottom...it's where over zealous losers like you belong.
EDIT: And yes I know where the the WR's are in the standings...Give Gordon back the two games he missed and Hoyer or Campbell tossing the ball to him and it's a done deal...
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I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
To sum that all up nice and neatly........YOU SUCK!!!!!!! You are going to suck for a few years and by the time you get half way decent we will be elite. Plan on having the Cleveland Browns tea bagging you for years to come. Its not going to take long before all of the add on bandwagon Squeeler fans jump ship either.
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It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
To sum that all up nice and neatly........YOU SUCK!!!!!!! You are going to suck for a few years and by the time you get half way decent we will be elite. Plan on having the Cleveland Browns tea bagging you for years to come. Its not going to take long before all of the add on bandwagon Squeeler fans jump ship either.
To sum that all up nice and neatly........YOU SUCK!!!!!!! You are going to suck for a few years and by the time you get half way decent we will be elite. Plan on having the Cleveland Browns tea bagging you for years to come. Its not going to take long before all of the add on bandwagon Squeeler fans jump ship either.
There is nothing bandwagon with Pittsburgh sports fans. We aren't used to the Steelers losing that's for sure but the team is still stocked with young talent and that's a fact. As I said previously in this thread enjoy it while it lasts because I don't expect it to last long.
Nickers I never once compared Brown to AJ Green and I guess we'll find out how Brown fairs against haden in the not so distant future. As it currently stands I'm not to worried about any of it, i wouldn't mind if they lost the rest of their games because getting a shot at an elite talent in the first round will pay dividends. I'll swing back in when you boys lose another one so I can read about yet another meltdown.
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The problem with the Steelers if their recent drafts have been putrid. They can't replace the old guys because the young guys they draft suck. They have no easy fix, I suspect they will have several years of suckiness to come for a change. And really Tomlin does suck, Lebeau and Arians did everything for him. They pushed out Arians and the offense has gotten worse, the sucked with draft picks and not he defense's age is becoming too much to overcome. Tomlin is confused on how to fix the problem. He was never a great coach to begin with, he was just put in a great situation. Now that he has adversity he is thoroughly perplexed on how to fix the problem. We should know, we have had many a coach do the samething.
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