Do you buy Bullying in the NFL?
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To you, not me. The guy is out for money and is a pussy.
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No, a realist. And shove the jackass comment.
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Poor 350 lb Martin. He got bullied, Waaahhhh. Give me a fecking break.
Pretty short sighted and lame opinion to something that is a real problem for a lot of people.
I feel for the 12 year old getting bullied in school but if a grown ass man/professional tough guy is getting bullied and can't figure out how to stop it without going to the media and throwing the whole team under the bus then he is just a pussy bitch.Pretty short sighted and lame opinion to something that is a real problem for a lot of people.
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I feel for the 12 year old getting bullied in school but if a grown ass man/professional tough guy is getting bullied and can't figure out how to stop it without going to the media and throwing the whole team under the bus then he is just a pussy bitch.Pretty short sighted and lame opinion to something that is a real problem for a lot of people.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I feel for the 12 year old getting bullied in school but if a grown ass man/professional tough guy is getting bullied and can't figure out how to stop it without going to the media and throwing the whole team under the bus then he is just a pussy bitch.
Didn't realize how many pussies frequent the Browns board.
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Right, he should've gone to the coaches that ordered Cognito to treat him like shit. This stuff was going on for a year and a half, and the whole thing with all the players getting up from the lunch table shows incognito had the team eating out of his dirty hands. I'm glad this blew up in the Dolphins faces, it'll be a warning to the rest of the NFL to deal with player problems in a professional fashion. If the Dolphins didn't like Martin they should've traded him, sent him to the practice squad, whatever. You saw how the Browns handled Weeden, professionals to the core despite how freaking terrible he is. Dolphins are reaping what they've sown.
They should have brought Michael Irvin in to talk to Martin.
They didn't order him to treat Martin like shit. They ordered him to toughen him up. Obviously he went above and beyond. I'm not defending incognito. He's a douche. I'm condemning Martin as a soft, lazy, aloof, crybaby pussy who got a lawyer because his teammate was mean to him. You can't have a guy like that especially on your O line. You need these guys to be tough. This is the fucking NFL for Christ's sake. Do you think Tannenhill wants a pushover pussy like that for a left tackle?
They didn't order him to treat Martin like shit. They ordered him to toughen him up. Obviously he went above and beyond. I'm not defending incognito. He's a douche. I'm condemning Martin as a soft, lazy, aloof, crybaby pussy who got a lawyer because his teammate was mean to him
Ordering a guy like Incognito to toughen anyone up is tantamount to telling him to treat him like shit. They picked the wrong guy for that job. I agree, Martin probably had issues that made him a poor fit for the team, but again, you have to deal with that like professionals. Either be smart about it like Chudizinski does for the Browns (by believing in them, challenging them to meet their potential, and inspiring them with visits from great past players like Irvin) or just cut the guy loose, trade him or release him. What you don't do is get a guy who is gonna call him a N***** and threaten to kill him.
Should Martin have stood up for himself? Absolutely, he should have, I know from first-hand experience it is the only language a bully speaks, and you do that, not only will they back off, they'll respect you, too. But Martin doesn't deserve to be bashed because he wasn't capable of doing that.
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They didn't order him to treat Martin like shit. They ordered him to toughen him up. Obviously he went above and beyond. I'm not defending incognito. He's a douche. I'm condemning Martin as a soft, lazy, aloof, crybaby pussy who got a lawyer because his teammate was mean to him
Ordering a guy like Incognito to toughen anyone up is tantamount to telling him to treat him like shit. They picked the wrong guy for that job. I agree, Martin probably had issues that made him a poor fit for the team, but again, you have to deal with that like professionals. Either be smart about it like Chudizinski does for the Browns (by believing in them, challenging them to meet their potential, and inspiring them with visits from great past players like Irvin) or just cut the guy loose, trade him or release him. What you don't do is get a guy who is gonna call him a N***** and threaten to kill him.
Should Martin have stood up for himself? Absolutely, he should have, I know from first-hand experience it is the only language a bully speaks, and you do that, not only will they back off, they'll respect you, too. But Martin doesn't deserve to be bashed because he wasn't capable of doing that.
That voicemail is not what Martin is upset about. Thats just how them guys talk. All of them. Its like me calling my friend a cocksucker. Do I actually believe he is gay or am I homophobic? No. I'm just trying to get under his skin or tick him off a little and I expect him to come back with something bigger.Ordering a guy like Incognito to toughen anyone up is tantamount to telling him to treat him like shit. They picked the wrong guy for that job. I agree, Martin probably had issues that made him a poor fit for the team, but again, you have to deal with that like professionals. Either be smart about it like Chudizinski does for the Browns (by believing in them, challenging them to meet their potential, and inspiring them with visits from great past players like Irvin) or just cut the guy loose, trade him or release him. What you don't do is get a guy who is gonna call him a N***** and threaten to kill him.
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A few things here:
To say a man can't have emotional issues and having some makes him a 'pussy' is extremely, extremely ignorant. Everyone has emotional issues, and everyone is built differently to handle them. That's why the issue of bullying occurs in the first place really. Work, no matter the actual job, should be an inclusive enviornment. What Incognito did clearly crossed the line of 'friendly banter'. I see a lot of people saying that because people are 'supporting' Incognito and others that means Martin is making this worse than it is. Honestly, why would anyone publicly support the guy given the circumstances? It's becoming a legal matter and to side with Martin implies guilt on the team.
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I did a whole "Who Ordered the Code Red" mock up, comparing the actors in a Few Good men to the Dolphin characters ... but it the pictures wouldn't post.
Anyhow, Dolphins Offensive coordinator Mike Sherman is a dead ringer for the guy that killed himself protecting Nicholson (Philbin)
Offensive line coach Jim turner ---> Keifer Sutherland character
Mike Pouncy ---> Lance Corporal Dawson
Richie ---> Private Downey
Zombo
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A few things here:
To say a man can't have emotional issues and having some makes him a 'pussy' is extremely, extremely ignorant. Everyone has emotional issues, and everyone is built differently to handle them. That's why the issue of bullying occurs in the first place really. Work, no matter the actual job, should be an inclusive enviornment. What Incognito did clearly crossed the line of 'friendly banter'. I see a lot of people saying that because people are 'supporting' Incognito and others that means Martin is making this worse than it is. Honestly, why would anyone publicly support the guy given the circumstances? It's becoming a legal matter and to side with Martin implies guilt on the team.
A few things here:
To say a man can't have emotional issues and having some makes him a 'pussy' is extremely, extremely ignorant. Everyone has emotional issues, and everyone is built differently to handle them. That's why the issue of bullying occurs in the first place really. Work, no matter the actual job, should be an inclusive enviornment. What Incognito did clearly crossed the line of 'friendly banter'. I see a lot of people saying that because people are 'supporting' Incognito and others that means Martin is making this worse than it is. Honestly, why would anyone publicly support the guy given the circumstances? It's becoming a legal matter and to side with Martin implies guilt on the team.
This is the NFL were talking about not some random office. If you can't take the locker room atmosphere get the fuck out. These aren't scholors. Theyre meatheads. They will always be meatheads and the day they're not you can keep your new pussy league where the tackles are now two handed ass grabs. I'll be done with it.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
A few things here:
To say a man can't have emotional issues and having some makes him a 'pussy' is extremely, extremely ignorant. Everyone has emotional issues, and everyone is built differently to handle them. That's why the issue of bullying occurs in the first place really. Work, no matter the actual job, should be an inclusive enviornment. What Incognito did clearly crossed the line of 'friendly banter'. I see a lot of people saying that because people are 'supporting' Incognito and others that means Martin is making this worse than it is. Honestly, why would anyone publicly support the guy given the circumstances? It's becoming a legal matter and to side with Martin implies guilt on the team.
lol its not his "emotional issues" that make him a pussy. Its the way he handled the situation. Obviously the guy has been soft since he got to Miami or the coaches wouldn't have wanted hom "toughened up". IMO Incognito was trying to make him a better football player and a better teammate. If there was any physical abuse then I retract everything I've said but that doesn't seem to be the case. Handle your problems with your teammates in house, don't go crying to the media and mom and dad. It appears to me he was never gonna make it in the NFL and he dragged Incognito and the team down with him for monetary gain.A few things here:
To say a man can't have emotional issues and having some makes him a 'pussy' is extremely, extremely ignorant. Everyone has emotional issues, and everyone is built differently to handle them. That's why the issue of bullying occurs in the first place really. Work, no matter the actual job, should be an inclusive enviornment. What Incognito did clearly crossed the line of 'friendly banter'. I see a lot of people saying that because people are 'supporting' Incognito and others that means Martin is making this worse than it is. Honestly, why would anyone publicly support the guy given the circumstances? It's becoming a legal matter and to side with Martin implies guilt on the team.
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A few things here:
To say a man can't have emotional issues and having some makes him a 'pussy' is extremely, extremely ignorant. Everyone has emotional issues, and everyone is built differently to handle them. That's why the issue of bullying occurs in the first place really. Work, no matter the actual job, should be an inclusive enviornment. What Incognito did clearly crossed the line of 'friendly banter'. I see a lot of people saying that because people are 'supporting' Incognito and others that means Martin is making this worse than it is. Honestly, why would anyone publicly support the guy given the circumstances? It's becoming a legal matter and to side with Martin implies guilt on the team.
This is the NFL were talking about not some random office. If you can't take the locker room atmosphere get the fuck out. These aren't scholors. Theyre meatheads. They will always be meatheads and the day they're not you can keep your new pussy league where the tackles are now two handed ass grabs. I'll be done with it.
This is the NFL were talking about not some random office. If you can't take the locker room atmosphere get the fuck out. These aren't scholors. Theyre meatheads. They will always be meatheads and the day they're not you can keep your new pussy league where the tackles are now two handed ass grabs. I'll be done with it.
A meathead who went to Stanford...
Just again proving your ignorance to the situation.
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Whatever Mark. You're being obtuse. You know the truth is that for every one guy who went to Stanford you have 50 Trent richardsons
"Pittsburgh is one of the goodest teams on the league"
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Ignorance is bliss I suppose. The last thing I'll leave here is a quote from Doug Baldwin of the Seahawks. I think this sums up what i'm trying to get across here perfectly:
"A lot of people might look at Jonathan Martin and think that he's soft because he stepped away from the game, and say, 'Why don't you just fight him?'" said Seattle Seahawks receiver Doug Baldwin, who played with Martin at Stanford. "Well, if you look at it with common sense and being logical, what options did Jonathan Martin have?
"He could fight Richie Incognito. He could go and tell on the players, which we know in the football locker room doesn't go over too well. Or he could remove himself from the situation and let the proper channels take care of itself. And I think he made the intelligent, smart choice without putting himself or Richie Incognito's physical abilities in danger."
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Here's who was not pleased with Jonathan Martin: His team, his coach, the gm. Who else? And now he's going to sue them because they were mean. He'll never find gainful employment in the league again, and I think you guys defending him ought to go watch whatever is gayer and less manly than soccer. Watching male ballet dancers tiptoe around the maypole perhaps? I bet everyone would be nice to you there
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Here's who was not pleased with Jonathan Martin: His team, his coach, the gm. Who else? And now he's going to sue them because they were mean. He'll never find gainful employment in the league again, and I think you guys defending him ought to go watch whatever is gayer and less manly than soccer. Watching male ballet dancers tiptoe around the maypole perhaps? I bet everyone would be nice to you there
Here's who was not pleased with Jonathan Martin: His team, his coach, the gm. Who else? And now he's going to sue them because they were mean. He'll never find gainful employment in the league again, and I think you guys defending him ought to go watch whatever is gayer and less manly than soccer. Watching male ballet dancers tiptoe around the maypole perhaps? I bet everyone would be nice to you there
According to the survey taken below nearly 80% of NFL players wouldn't want Incognito on their team while roughly half would welcome Martin on theirs. Being ingorant to the world around is worse than being stupid.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9945888/most-players-survey-want-richie-incognito
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If you were 100% less ignorant you would have seen that I already stated that incognito went too far and was not defensible you ignorant ignoramus. God you're fucking ignorant
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You don't have to be defending incognito to think martin is a pussy who did everything wrong.
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Here's who was not pleased with Jonathan Martin: His team, his coach, the gm. Who else? And now he's going to sue them because they were mean. He'll never find gainful employment in the league again, and I think you guys defending him ought to go watch whatever is gayer and less manly than soccer. Watching male ballet dancers tiptoe around the maypole perhaps? I bet everyone would be nice to you there
Here's who was not pleased with Jonathan Martin: His team, his coach, the gm. Who else? And now he's going to sue them because they were mean. He'll never find gainful employment in the league again, and I think you guys defending him ought to go watch whatever is gayer and less manly than soccer. Watching male ballet dancers tiptoe around the maypole perhaps? I bet everyone would be nice to you there
Martin's GM told him to "punch Incognito in the mouth". Don't know how you interpret that, but legally it's assault & battery. Yeah, that's how to handle the situation.
Maybe he could have taken it one step farther and hit him over the head with a chair, or gotten really POed and shot the SOB.
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The only defense that Incognito apologists have is "Martin is a pussy." They're completely ignoring how shitty this makes the locker room.
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