Week 11 Game Impressions: Steelers @ Browns
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There are 3 elite players on the team, one had a somewhat off day.
Haden, Thomas, Gordon
There are 3 elite players on the team, one had a somewhat off day.
Haden, Thomas, Gordon
Gordon is no doubt good but the brunt of his yardage was in garbage time or via crossing routes against the zone with a lb covering. He's good tho no doubt about it.
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I really thought we'd have some sacks by now. What the hell is going on?
I really thought we'd have some sacks by now. What the hell is going on?
our edges suck
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4-7 Pat Shurmur's fault
Come on. You can't compare this coaching staff with Shurmur & Co. We're much more competitive now. Even after such a shitty game vs Pissburgh.
Come on. You can't compare this coaching staff with Shurmur & Co. We're much more competitive now. Even after such a shitty game vs Pissburgh.
Actually we aren't. The defense is more solid but with Weeden at the helm for the whole season we are the same. Changing regimes gives the fan base hope until in 3 years we are the same team with Teddy Twatwater
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Are you black?
What kind of question is that? And no I'm not.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
We talked about this already burn. My gf has a business in town.
I don't remember discussing this with you. Anyhow, maybe we can hook up for a beer sometime. I am not black. Are you? There aren't too many blacks in Delaware....not that it means anything. I am second generation Irish. People say I look like Mr French from the flick The Departed. I am not gay either (not that there is anything wrong with that)
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Turnovers were absolutely the reason we lost today. Obi with a terrible fumble when we're driving, Campbell staring a blitz right in the face and not protecting the football. It's what bad teams do to lose games, plain and simple.
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Are you black?
What kind of question is that? And no I'm not.
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I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet.
But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on.
Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years.
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I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet.
But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on.
Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years.
We do have a good foundation. We need a fucking a QB. Period.I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet.
But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on.
Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years.
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We still have hope, we might get a chance to kill Pittsburgh's playoff aspirations in week 17.
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What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).
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What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).
quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong?What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).
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Names I thew out I am happy with. supporting cast I am not. just being a realist. Hoyer looked good, Campbell was average and could have been a .500 win QB. If you only have one playmaker on D and maybe Two on O, makes you a what we are. A below average team.
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quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong?What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).
quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong?
"Looked" like a decent team... for 2 games. This D is great, but the offense is going to need a lot more than just Brian Hoyer...
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As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.
Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great
impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't
look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee
injury.
So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly
see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?
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As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.
Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great
impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't
look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee
injury.
So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly
see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?
As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.
Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great
impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't
look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee
injury.
So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly
see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?
You should not only look at the last two games. Look at the full season we had so far. I've seen a number of good signs of what will be the Browns to come.
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As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.
Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great
impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't
look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee
injury.
So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly
see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?
As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.
Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great
impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't
look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee
injury.
So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly
see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?
The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over.
Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period.
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As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.
Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great
impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't
look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee
injury.
So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly
see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?
The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over.
Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period.
The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over.
Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period.
Horton got outcoached for sure. The stoolers threw at least 10 wr screens and the Browns didn't stop any of them.
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