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Week 11 Game Impressions: Steelers @ Browns

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  • I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet.

    But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on.

    Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years.

  • I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet.

    But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on.

    Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years.

    @the-italian-dawgpound said:

    I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet.

    But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on.

    Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years.

    We do have a good foundation. We need a fucking a QB. Period.
  • We still have hope, we might get a chance to kill Pittsburgh's playoff aspirations in week 17.

  • Brown's go from a chance to obtain the six seed of the playoffs. Now with them losing TB and Jacksonville winning a top 5 pick in next years draft becomes very realistic.

  • What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).

  • What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).

    @lbc-mike said:

    What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).

    quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong?
  • Names I thew out I am happy with. supporting cast I am not. just being a realist. Hoyer looked good, Campbell was average and could have been a .500 win QB. If you only have one playmaker on D and maybe Two on O, makes you a what we are. A below average team.

  • @lbc-mike said:

    What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7).

    quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong?

    @comeonman said:

    quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong?

    "Looked" like a decent team... for 2 games. This D is great, but the offense is going to need a lot more than just Brian Hoyer...

  • As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.

    Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great

    impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't

    look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee

    injury.

    So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly

    see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?

  • As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.

    Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great

    impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't

    look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee

    injury.

    So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly

    see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?

    @dste-ace said:

    As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.

    Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great

    impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't

    look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee

    injury.

    So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly

    see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?

    You should not only look at the last two games. Look at the full season we had so far. I've seen a number of good signs of what will be the Browns to come.

  • As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.

    Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great

    impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't

    look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee

    injury.

    So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly

    see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?

    @dste-ace said:

    As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.

    Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great

    impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't

    look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee

    injury.

    So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly

    see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?

    The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over.

    Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period.

  • @dste-ace said:

    As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great.

    Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great

    impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't

    look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee

    injury.

    So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly

    see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future?

    The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over.

    Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period.

    @jrb12711 said:

    The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over.

    Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period.

    Horton got outcoached for sure. The stoolers threw at least 10 wr screens and the Browns didn't stop any of them.

  • A franchise QB wouldn't have saved the game today, but it would have helped.

    You can't fumble.

    You can't drop passes that hit you in the hands.

    You absolutely can't give up 3rd down conversions.

    We couldn't get on Roethlisberger because he was being Roethlisberger. Meanwhile, Weeden seemed to have a magnet attached to him.

    The Steelers were and still are a better team than the Browns. It won't change until we get a QB who matters, a RT who can block, and a defense that can wrap players up and take them down on first contact.

    This is the second week in a row the Browns have played lazy, uninspired football. It makes me think that something big may be happening that they know and we don't.

  • 52 passes, 16 runs, 0 sacks and 4 turnovers. Browns

    34 passes, 34 runs, 5 sacks and 0 turnovers, Stoolers

    Lucky we only lost by 16

  • Sorry fellas, but the on-field abortion that has been the Cleveland Browns for the last 20 years

    has left my optimism tank running on fumes. Every year at this point of the season it's the SOS--

    an offense whose motto is 'Three and out'. Running game that doesn't concern anyone. Receivers

    unable to get separation, OL using the famed 'Ole!' technique. I realize BR was getting rid of the

    ball quickly today but, c'mon---other than to get the sweat stink out, is there even a reason to wash

    his uniform after today's game?

    Next year we have 10 draft picks. And from the way it looks we'll once again be picking in the top

    5-10. The same place we've been drafting for the last 14 years. I'm beginning to accept that if the

    Browns ever win the Super Bowl I'll be shitting my diaper and too far gone with dementia to enjoy it.

  • Sorry fellas, but the on-field abortion that has been the Cleveland Browns for the last 20 years

    has left my optimism tank running on fumes. Every year at this point of the season it's the SOS--

    an offense whose motto is 'Three and out'. Running game that doesn't concern anyone. Receivers

    unable to get separation, OL using the famed 'Ole!' technique. I realize BR was getting rid of the

    ball quickly today but, c'mon---other than to get the sweat stink out, is there even a reason to wash

    his uniform after today's game?

    Next year we have 10 draft picks. And from the way it looks we'll once again be picking in the top

    5-10. The same place we've been drafting for the last 14 years. I'm beginning to accept that if the

    Browns ever win the Super Bowl I'll be shitting my diaper and too far gone with dementia to enjoy it.

    @dste-ace said:

    Sorry fellas, but the on-field abortion that has been the Cleveland Browns for the last 20 years

    has left my optimism tank running on fumes. Every year at this point of the season it's the SOS--

    an offense whose motto is 'Three and out'. Running game that doesn't concern anyone. Receivers

    unable to get separation, OL using the famed 'Ole!' technique. I realize BR was getting rid of the

    ball quickly today but, c'mon---other than to get the sweat stink out, is there even a reason to wash

    his uniform after today's game?

    Next year we have 10 draft picks. And from the way it looks we'll once again be picking in the top

    5-10. The same place we've been drafting for the last 14 years. I'm beginning to accept that if the

    Browns ever win the Super Bowl I'll be shitting my diaper and too far gone with dementia to enjoy it.

    Its true. For that reason I've morphed into more of an NFL fan than a straight up browns fan. The browns are my team but I have a lot of teams I support.
  • @dste-ace said:

    Sorry fellas, but the on-field abortion that has been the Cleveland Browns for the last 20 years

    has left my optimism tank running on fumes. Every year at this point of the season it's the SOS--

    an offense whose motto is 'Three and out'. Running game that doesn't concern anyone. Receivers

    unable to get separation, OL using the famed 'Ole!' technique. I realize BR was getting rid of the

    ball quickly today but, c'mon---other than to get the sweat stink out, is there even a reason to wash

    his uniform after today's game?

    Next year we have 10 draft picks. And from the way it looks we'll once again be picking in the top

    5-10. The same place we've been drafting for the last 14 years. I'm beginning to accept that if the

    Browns ever win the Super Bowl I'll be shitting my diaper and too far gone with dementia to enjoy it.

    Its true. For that reason I've morphed into more of an NFL fan than a straight up browns fan. The browns are my team but I have a lot of teams I support.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Its true. For that reason I've morphed into more of an NFL fan than a straight up browns fan. The browns are my team but I have a lot of teams I support.

    The next step is admitting to your parents that you're gay.

  • Hey if you love watching crap football all the time and hating everyone else be my guest.

  • @dste-ace said:

    Sorry fellas, but the on-field abortion that has been the Cleveland Browns for the last 20 years

    has left my optimism tank running on fumes. Every year at this point of the season it's the SOS--

    an offense whose motto is 'Three and out'. Running game that doesn't concern anyone. Receivers

    unable to get separation, OL using the famed 'Ole!' technique. I realize BR was getting rid of the

    ball quickly today but, c'mon---other than to get the sweat stink out, is there even a reason to wash

    his uniform after today's game?

    Next year we have 10 draft picks. And from the way it looks we'll once again be picking in the top

    5-10. The same place we've been drafting for the last 14 years. I'm beginning to accept that if the

    Browns ever win the Super Bowl I'll be shitting my diaper and too far gone with dementia to enjoy it.

    Its true. For that reason I've morphed into more of an NFL fan than a straight up browns fan. The browns are my team but I have a lot of teams I support.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Its true. For that reason I've morphed into more of an NFL fan than a straight up browns fan. The browns are my team but I have a lot of teams I support.

    I can kind of relate. I've really enjoyed having NFL sunday ticket in this regard. I'll always have the browns game on my computer but when they stink up the joint like today I can have it on more in the background.

  • the steelers own us. it's that simple. that's why i didn't watch the game today and won't want to see any highlight. they think of cleveland browns' stadium as heinz field #2.

    until we get a coach with some balls that can call fucking plays and our DL and OL can punch these dudes in the face and knock the opposing team back 5 yds each direction, we will continue to be their bitches.

    every piece of this team played like shit today and the coaching staff should be held accountable, player performance included.

    don't know if i'll watch another game this year. it's like pouring hot sauce in your eyes while some tightens the vise on your balls.