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What if the FO doesn't see a franchise qb in this draft?

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  • You have no idea if that's true.

  • now you sound like an idiot couch.

    check out geno 'your boy smith' in NY. gets booed and railed out of time every other sunday.

    a hero one day a zero the next.

  • Mallett has one year left on his deal and almost certainly plans to be a starter somewhere this year or the next... not three or four years from now when Brady retires and Mallett's like 30. No way. Not happening. Pats trade him now or lose him in a year.

    If the Browns do want Carr, it might be in a trade up with the Falcons or Redskins, something like that. #6 overall and our 2nd round pick for the #3. I don't know that he's the guy but right now, today, that feels like a logical scenario. Most believe the Browns stockpiled picks to get the guy they want... and that means at QB, not guard (!).

  • I still find threads like this kind of confounding. I'll get if you ask 100 NFL insiders, 101 will say the Browns next draft pick will be a quarterback because one guy brings a note from a colleague. I don't really think there's the slightest chance in hell it doesn't happen. I sincerely don't.

    Browns will pick somewhere around 6th and have a TON of artillery to move up if they want/need to.

  • They'll draft a QB, he'll start 3-7, and we'll be told he needs time to develop and he's making strides. In 2 years he'll be 7-16 and we'll have a guy at the end of his career at QB....sound familiar? Starting a rookie QB on a losing team RARELY works but the Holmgren's of the world think they have the next Andrew Luck and only they no about it.

  • Mallett has one year left on his deal and almost certainly plans to be a starter somewhere this year or the next... not three or four years from now when Brady retires and Mallett's like 30. No way. Not happening. Pats trade him now or lose him in a year.

    If the Browns do want Carr, it might be in a trade up with the Falcons or Redskins, something like that. #6 overall and our 2nd round pick for the #3. I don't know that he's the guy but right now, today, that feels like a logical scenario. Most believe the Browns stockpiled picks to get the guy they want... and that means at QB, not guard (!).

    @shep said:

    Mallett has one year left on his deal and almost certainly plans to be a starter somewhere this year or the next... not three or four years from now when Brady retires and Mallett's like 30. No way. Not happening. Pats trade him now or lose him in a year.

    If the Browns do want Carr, it might be in a trade up with the Falcons or Redskins, something like that. #6 overall and our 2nd round pick for the #3. I don't know that he's the guy but right now, today, that feels like a logical scenario. Most believe the Browns stockpiled picks to get the guy they want... and that means at QB, not guard (!).

    Hell, the Browns could still finish "ahead" of the Falcons and Redskins in the "race" for a better draft choice. If the Redskins play Kirk Cousins they may win a couple of game.

    (of course, remember, the Rams own the Redskins pick)

  • now you sound like an idiot couch.

    check out geno 'your boy smith' in NY. gets booed and railed out of time every other sunday.

    a hero one day a zero the next.

    @miktoxic said:

    now you sound like an idiot couch.

    check out geno 'your boy smith' in NY. gets booed and railed out of time every other sunday.

    a hero one day a zero the next.

    How do you block people on this site?

  • Or can we just ban mik? He is by far the worst on this site. He offers very little thought and constantly puts profanity everywhere.

  • The more I read, the more I agree with Shep a bit. But I think the two choices of qb

    for the Browns, are Derek Carr, and Bortles, if he declares, with their first pick.

    I don't see anybody else fitting. Manziel? When bottled up, he had a couple of very

    tough games. That will happen most of the time in the NFL. He doesn't have the frame,

    nor the arm, to avoid injury and hit those tight windows downfield.

    If the Browns do wait til their second choice, who knows. Garoppolo is a very interesting kid,

    but he isn't ready to step in his first year if he had to, maybe.

    Bortles won't have much to gain staying in school, especially with Mariotta returning. He is

    everything the Browns need to fit their offense. And I don't see him ever being there with

    their second pick. He has the "WOW" factor to impress at the combine.

    Derek Carr or Bortles. That's a tough choice, since it's so early. Carr is an elite prospect

    who may not even be there at 6. THEN what, if Bortles stays in school?

    Meanwhile, Hundley should stay, Manziel doesn't fit skillwise, then I think the Browns will

    nab Watkins, wr, or trade down and nab a qb to develop with their second pick.

    But trading up, giving up a stockpile? No way. The Browns won't sell out their future improvements

    through the draft. They will let either Carr or Bortles fall to them. Now, if all they need to do,

    is trade their first round picks for moving up....that is so easily beaten by the competition, won't happen.

    They need to move the draft up to early Feb, at the rate we are talking about the draft already....

  • Or can we just ban mik? He is by far the worst on this site. He offers very little thought and constantly puts profanity everywhere.

    @alwardc4 said:

    Or can we just ban mik? He is by far the worst on this site. He offers very little thought and constantly puts profanity everywhere.

    Fuck you. Mik has been on this site forever, cunt. Check out his post count before you try to get into a pissing contest with him.

    I mean, if every cocksucking newbie could come on here to demand that long time denizens of this site be banned, then we would all have our motherfucking tits in a ringer.

    (George Carlin would be so proud of me for using all 7 prohibited words of profanity in such a short discourse) 😛

  • @miktoxic said:

    now you sound like an idiot couch.

    check out geno 'your boy smith' in NY. gets booed and railed out of time every other sunday.

    a hero one day a zero the next.

    How do you block people on this site?

    @alwardc4 said:

    How do you block people on this site?

    go to your settings, click on your name and in the pull down menu click on 'manage ignore preferences'.

    please ignore me, most people do.

    but in your case i really hope you do because it would be a colosall waste of my time trying to charm you with my wit and humor with your thin skin.

  • Living in L.A., I think Hundley is coming out. He put his name in for a draft grade and with Mariota gone he'll be told top 15 at worst... and you have to take that, as recent history proves.

    Great post, Cal. But I think Manziel has a lot more arm than given credit for, honestly, much like Brian Hoyer. It's tough to dismiss anybody who shreds the shit out of Alabama two years in a row. I guarantee those future NFL players will tell you he's good.

  • @alwardc4 said:

    How do you block people on this site?

    go to your settings, click on your name and in the pull down menu click on 'manage ignore preferences'.

    please ignore me, most people do.

    but in your case i really hope you do because it would be a colosall waste of my time trying to charm you with my wit and humor with your thin skin.

    @miktoxic said:

    go to your settings, click on your name and in the pull down menu click on 'manage ignore preferences'.

    please ignore me, most people do.

    but in your case i really hope you do because it would be a colosall waste of my time trying to charm you with my wit and humor with your thin skin.

    I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.

    Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.

  • @miktoxic said:

    go to your settings, click on your name and in the pull down menu click on 'manage ignore preferences'.

    please ignore me, most people do.

    but in your case i really hope you do because it would be a colosall waste of my time trying to charm you with my wit and humor with your thin skin.

    I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.

    Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.

    @alwardc4 said:

    I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.

    Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.

    holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.

  • @alwardc4 said:

    Or can we just ban mik? He is by far the worst on this site. He offers very little thought and constantly puts profanity everywhere.

    Fuck you. Mik has been on this site forever, cunt. Check out his post count before you try to get into a pissing contest with him.

    I mean, if every cocksucking newbie could come on here to demand that long time denizens of this site be banned, then we would all have our motherfucking tits in a ringer.

    (George Carlin would be so proud of me for using all 7 prohibited words of profanity in such a short discourse) 😛

    @the-gipper said:

    Fuck you. Mik has been on this site forever, cunt. Check out his post count before you try to get into a pissing contest with him.

    I mean, if every cocksucking newbie could come on here to demand that long time denizens of this site be banned, then we would all have our motherfucking tits in a ringer.

    (George Carlin would be so proud of me for using all 7 prohibited words of profanity in such a short discourse) 😛

    HAHAHAHA. The old post count taunt. Very mature. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he has any brains. All I read is profanity with little thought AND its not funny. The only other forum I post on is twoplustwo.com SE section. You cant post like mik and stay around so I figured I'd ask. Or even someone like you considering this reply.

    If you used more profanity it could better reflect your level of intelligence!!!

  • @alwardc4 said:

    I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.

    Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.

    holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.

    @clevfan4life said:

    holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.

    Cuss words and idiot postings are not worth my time. Thus, I asked how to ignore. Its not hard to understand.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.

    Cuss words and idiot postings are not worth my time. Thus, I asked how to ignore. Its not hard to understand.

    @alwardc4 said:

    Cuss words and idiot postings are not worth my time. Thus, I asked how to ignore. Its not hard to understand.

    you should head over to clevelandfrowns.com then.

  • @alwardc4 said:

    Cuss words and idiot postings are not worth my time. Thus, I asked how to ignore. Its not hard to understand.

    you should head over to clevelandfrowns.com then.

    @clevfan4life said:

    you should head over to clevelandfrowns.com then.

    Holy crap. So I go to the site and notice its Pete Pattakos. I went to grade school with him.

  • For all you Carr lovers.

    Manziel's completion percentage on throws of 6 yards or more is 65%

    Carr's is 54%

    Manziel plays against MUCH better competition.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Fuck you. Mik has been on this site forever, cunt. Check out his post count before you try to get into a pissing contest with him.

    I mean, if every cocksucking newbie could come on here to demand that long time denizens of this site be banned, then we would all have our motherfucking tits in a ringer.

    (George Carlin would be so proud of me for using all 7 prohibited words of profanity in such a short discourse) 😛

    HAHAHAHA. The old post count taunt. Very mature. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he has any brains. All I read is profanity with little thought AND its not funny. The only other forum I post on is twoplustwo.com SE section. You cant post like mik and stay around so I figured I'd ask. Or even someone like you considering this reply.

    If you used more profanity it could better reflect your level of intelligence!!!

    @alwardc4 said:

    HAHAHAHA. The old post count taunt. Very mature. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he has any brains. All I read is profanity with little thought AND its not funny. The only other forum I post on is twoplustwo.com SE section. You cant post like mik and stay around so I figured I'd ask. Or even someone like you considering this reply.

    If you used more profanity it could better reflect your level of intelligence!!!

    I take it then that MY profanity IS done with thought and is funny. At least that is my opinion.

    If you want to hang out with the sissy boys, then by all means, go to your other site and drink milktoast the rest of your days.

    I mean, if you want to be a puss....nothing we can do to stop you.

    But, if you have reached puberty, you may want to hang here with the grown men.

    We will surely make an effort to try to rid you of your boyhood sensitivities.