What if the FO doesn't see a franchise qb in this draft?
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Living in L.A., I think Hundley is coming out. He put his name in for a draft grade and with Mariota gone he'll be told top 15 at worst... and you have to take that, as recent history proves.
Great post, Cal. But I think Manziel has a lot more arm than given credit for, honestly, much like Brian Hoyer. It's tough to dismiss anybody who shreds the shit out of Alabama two years in a row. I guarantee those future NFL players will tell you he's good.
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How do you block people on this site?
go to your settings, click on your name and in the pull down menu click on 'manage ignore preferences'.
please ignore me, most people do.
but in your case i really hope you do because it would be a colosall waste of my time trying to charm you with my wit and humor with your thin skin.
go to your settings, click on your name and in the pull down menu click on 'manage ignore preferences'.
please ignore me, most people do.
but in your case i really hope you do because it would be a colosall waste of my time trying to charm you with my wit and humor with your thin skin.
I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.
Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.
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go to your settings, click on your name and in the pull down menu click on 'manage ignore preferences'.
please ignore me, most people do.
but in your case i really hope you do because it would be a colosall waste of my time trying to charm you with my wit and humor with your thin skin.
I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.
Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.
I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.
Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.
holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.
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Or can we just ban mik? He is by far the worst on this site. He offers very little thought and constantly puts profanity everywhere.
Fuck you. Mik has been on this site forever, cunt. Check out his post count before you try to get into a pissing contest with him.
I mean, if every cocksucking newbie could come on here to demand that long time denizens of this site be banned, then we would all have our motherfucking tits in a ringer.
(George Carlin would be so proud of me for using all 7 prohibited words of profanity in such a short discourse)
Fuck you. Mik has been on this site forever, cunt. Check out his post count before you try to get into a pissing contest with him.
I mean, if every cocksucking newbie could come on here to demand that long time denizens of this site be banned, then we would all have our motherfucking tits in a ringer.
(George Carlin would be so proud of me for using all 7 prohibited words of profanity in such a short discourse)
HAHAHAHA. The old post count taunt. Very mature. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he has any brains. All I read is profanity with little thought AND its not funny. The only other forum I post on is twoplustwo.com SE section. You cant post like mik and stay around so I figured I'd ask. Or even someone like you considering this reply.
If you used more profanity it could better reflect your level of intelligence!!!
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I like wit. I don't find much with you. Just annoyance.
Thank you for telling me. I will get to it.
holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.
holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.
Cuss words and idiot postings are not worth my time. Thus, I asked how to ignore. Its not hard to understand.
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holy shit what kind of poosy are you? it's a football forum, how offensive can anything really get here? do yourself a favor and put the whole board on ignore...that way it's just nothing but soothing white screen. Nobody will ever fuck with your buzz man. It'll be like your very own board where you can just write what you want and no one will ever snipe it bro.
Cuss words and idiot postings are not worth my time. Thus, I asked how to ignore. Its not hard to understand.
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you should head over to clevelandfrowns.com then.
Holy crap. So I go to the site and notice its Pete Pattakos. I went to grade school with him.
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Fuck you. Mik has been on this site forever, cunt. Check out his post count before you try to get into a pissing contest with him.
I mean, if every cocksucking newbie could come on here to demand that long time denizens of this site be banned, then we would all have our motherfucking tits in a ringer.
(George Carlin would be so proud of me for using all 7 prohibited words of profanity in such a short discourse)
HAHAHAHA. The old post count taunt. Very mature. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he has any brains. All I read is profanity with little thought AND its not funny. The only other forum I post on is twoplustwo.com SE section. You cant post like mik and stay around so I figured I'd ask. Or even someone like you considering this reply.
If you used more profanity it could better reflect your level of intelligence!!!
HAHAHAHA. The old post count taunt. Very mature. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he has any brains. All I read is profanity with little thought AND its not funny. The only other forum I post on is twoplustwo.com SE section. You cant post like mik and stay around so I figured I'd ask. Or even someone like you considering this reply.
If you used more profanity it could better reflect your level of intelligence!!!
I take it then that MY profanity IS done with thought and is funny. At least that is my opinion.
If you want to hang out with the sissy boys, then by all means, go to your other site and drink milktoast the rest of your days.
I mean, if you want to be a puss....nothing we can do to stop you.
But, if you have reached puberty, you may want to hang here with the grown men.
We will surely make an effort to try to rid you of your boyhood sensitivities.
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you should head over to clevelandfrowns.com then.
Holy crap. So I go to the site and notice its Pete Pattakos. I went to grade school with him.
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HAHAHAHA. The old post count taunt. Very mature. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he has any brains. All I read is profanity with little thought AND its not funny. The only other forum I post on is twoplustwo.com SE section. You cant post like mik and stay around so I figured I'd ask. Or even someone like you considering this reply.
If you used more profanity it could better reflect your level of intelligence!!!
I take it then that MY profanity IS done with thought and is funny. At least that is my opinion.
If you want to hang out with the sissy boys, then by all means, go to your other site and drink milktoast the rest of your days.
I mean, if you want to be a puss....nothing we can do to stop you.
But, if you have reached puberty, you may want to hang here with the grown men.
We will surely make an effort to try to rid you of your boyhood sensitivities.
lol. Pwease don't use any naughty words! Daddy used to say those words right before....I take it then that MY profanity IS done with thought and is funny. At least that is my opinion.
If you want to hang out with the sissy boys, then by all means, go to your other site and drink milktoast the rest of your days.
I mean, if you want to be a puss....nothing we can do to stop you.
But, if you have reached puberty, you may want to hang here with the grown men.
We will surely make an effort to try to rid you of your boyhood sensitivities.
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Just last year, eh?
Getting warmer as far as funny.
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this all falls upon me and obviously AL WARD c4 and how he doesn't approve of smarmy content. people that don't agree with him are wrong and can't have a sense of humor about anything.
hey i'll rail on anyone in this org. that i think is letting us down. could be the FO, could be the coaching staff and even the players who were signed and over-paid.
sorry if that seeps through your little lizard skin to the point of where it hurts your 40+ years of the love/hate relationship to this team. not 40+ years? well then you can't say shit cuz i was shitting yellow 10-15 years before you were even a pipe dream.
i on the other hand have no problem complaining about such shit that IMO make this team stagnant and mediocre. but i'll also read and understand other people's content who all the right in the world to give their own opinion. i might shoot back at them but i sure as hell give them mad respect for doing so. if you think this forum is all about cherry kisses and merry-go-rounds then fine for you. but you'd be wrong.
don't want to agree with me? fine. well that's what forums are about. i've formed good internet friendships on this forum and god knows 80% of them don't agree with me.
why not try to come in here, have a drink, relax and understand that what a lot of people say are their schtick.
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Well I tried to put you on ignore but computer crapped on me. Glad I didnt. I get you a little more now after that post. You don't have to agree with me. I come from a way diifferent view point when it comes to any sport or game. Its a pure mathematical/game theory approach. Its what I am good at. Hell, its how I make a living.
Peace fellow Browns fan.
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Lol a match made by the Factory of Sadness....
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Well I tried to put you on ignore but computer crapped on me. Glad I didnt. I get you a little more now after that post. You don't have to agree with me. I come from a way diifferent view point when it comes to any sport or game. Its a pure mathematical/game theory approach. Its what I am good at. Hell, its how I make a living.
Peace fellow Browns fan.
Well I tried to put you on ignore but computer crapped on me. Glad I didnt. I get you a little more now after that post. You don't have to agree with me. I come from a way diifferent view point when it comes to any sport or game. Its a pure mathematical/game theory approach. Its what I am good at. Hell, its how I make a living.
Peace fellow Browns fan.
if that's what you are good at maybe you can teach me some of that wisdom.
facts, figures and streaks don't mean poo poo to me, cuz we haven't seen 9 and 7 in how long? yet we have a foundation of solid players on both lines (exceot OL tot he right) and yet with every genious coach and regime change we barely touch the .500 mark.
is it coaching (yes) is it an owner that won't drop the hammer when needed to be, or is the over-hyped draft picks and FA we sign that don't do suadoosh?
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I work all louisville home games,bridgewater is over rated we do not want him.
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Well I tried to put you on ignore but computer crapped on me. Glad I didnt. I get you a little more now after that post. You don't have to agree with me. I come from a way diifferent view point when it comes to any sport or game. Its a pure mathematical/game theory approach. Its what I am good at. Hell, its how I make a living.
Peace fellow Browns fan.
if that's what you are good at maybe you can teach me some of that wisdom.
facts, figures and streaks don't mean poo poo to me, cuz we haven't seen 9 and 7 in how long? yet we have a foundation of solid players on both lines (exceot OL tot he right) and yet with every genious coach and regime change we barely touch the .500 mark.
is it coaching (yes) is it an owner that won't drop the hammer when needed to be, or is the over-hyped draft picks and FA we sign that don't do suadoosh?
if that's what you are good at maybe you can teach me some of that wisdom.
facts, figures and streaks don't mean poo poo to me, cuz we haven't seen 9 and 7 in how long? yet we have a foundation of solid players on both lines (exceot OL tot he right) and yet with every genious coach and regime change we barely touch the .500 mark.
is it coaching (yes) is it an owner that won't drop the hammer when needed to be, or is the over-hyped draft picks and FA we sign that don't do suadoosh?
Because their QBs have all sucked. And really, just unlucky. They restart the franchise a year earlier and get Manning instead of Couch its likely all sunshines and rainbows. Plus, we are all less cranky.
Everybody here knows QB is most important. I think I disagree with most by HOW much its most important.
Big change from when I was a kid. Couldn't the Bears, Skins, Giants, etc start anybody at QB and win 10 games back in the day? Its kinda a shame. Damn rule changes.
The team that ticks me off the most (aside from steelers) is the Colts. They have a trash roster and a goofball owner, yet they are in the middle of enjoying about 30 years of playoff appearances because they got Manning and Luck.
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When a team is good enough to win games with Don Strock at the helm then somebody like Bernie Kosar looks great.
WSS
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if that's what you are good at maybe you can teach me some of that wisdom.
facts, figures and streaks don't mean poo poo to me, cuz we haven't seen 9 and 7 in how long? yet we have a foundation of solid players on both lines (exceot OL tot he right) and yet with every genious coach and regime change we barely touch the .500 mark.
is it coaching (yes) is it an owner that won't drop the hammer when needed to be, or is the over-hyped draft picks and FA we sign that don't do suadoosh?
Because their QBs have all sucked. And really, just unlucky. They restart the franchise a year earlier and get Manning instead of Couch its likely all sunshines and rainbows. Plus, we are all less cranky.
Everybody here knows QB is most important. I think I disagree with most by HOW much its most important.
Big change from when I was a kid. Couldn't the Bears, Skins, Giants, etc start anybody at QB and win 10 games back in the day? Its kinda a shame. Damn rule changes.
The team that ticks me off the most (aside from steelers) is the Colts. They have a trash roster and a goofball owner, yet they are in the middle of enjoying about 30 years of playoff appearances because they got Manning and Luck.
The team that ticks me off the most (aside from steelers) is the Colts. They have a trash roster and a goofball owner, yet they are in the middle of enjoying about 30 years of playoff appearances because they got Manning and Luck.
Every team in 1st place in their division has had the same QB for the whole year.
Every team at the bottom of their division except for Atlanta and maybe one other has had multiple QBs.
The Packers have only one game without Aaron Rodgers at the helm.
So yes, the only position that needs to be upgraded to take the Browns to a winning record is QB. Getting far in the playoffs and to the Super Bowl will require another WR, 1-2 OG, an RB, an ILB and maybe another CB.
So to answer the question in the subject header, if the Browns don't see the franchise QB in this draft they have several options:
1) Sign Jay Cutler and address the positions listed above in the draft, and also include a QB that you can sit behind Cutler.
or:
2) Don't sign Cutler, draft a QB in the third round that you can sit behind Hoyer or Campbell. Draft for the positions above.
or
3) Sign Cutler, don't draft a QB this year, address all the positions listed above in the draft early, draft for depth in the later rounds, and plan to draft Cutler's successor in 2015.
Personally I think the Browns have an excess of assets that they can afford to be aggressive in finding a good QB, and should throw multiple of those assets at the problem. Why? There are only two players on the offense that touch the ball for every offensive play of the game, and only one of them decides what to do with it. QB is the bottleneck of the offense, and that's why it is the most important position in any team sport.
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