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What's Wrong With Ray Horton?

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  • neither looked as bad as eli manning.

    another game with 5 ints? he has to have set the record by now.

    which ponders the question....are the gmen in the QB next year?

    @miktoxic said:

    neither looked as bad as eli manning.

    another game with 5 ints? he has to have set the record by now.

    which ponders the question....are the gmen in the QB next year?

    I would say no, only because of Eli's contract. No one would trade for him and they can't release him.

  • Campbell is a hot and cold passer like Dave Krieg...he blows...Ive been saying that since we signed him...

  • I wonder how many more times the Bear could have ran the quick pitch to the left on us before we would have seen it coming.

  • We need a safety like Palamalu and a LB like Harrison for Hortons D to work

  • We need a safety like Palamalu and a LB like Harrison for Hortons D to work

    @topdawg31 said:

    We need a safety like Palamalu and a LB like Harrison for Hortons D to work

    As long as it's those guys from 5 years ago.

  • We need a safety like Palamalu and a LB like Harrison for Hortons D to work

    @topdawg31 said:

    We need a safety like Palamalu and a LB like Harrison for Hortons D to work

    Wee need a DC that doesnt live by the soft zone umbrella defense that gave the game away today in the 4th quater...AGAIN!

  • So much for Hortons auditioning for HC, who would want to bring that garbage on board?

  • So much for Hortons auditioning for HC, who would want to bring that garbage on board?

    @topdawg31 said:

    So much for Hortons auditioning for HC, who would want to bring that garbage on board?

    Yeah, he's stuck here now. He will get interviews because of the Rooney rule but no one is going to hire him

  • In the two years Horton was in Arizona (2011, 2012), the Cardinals went 13-19 and went to zero playoff games.

    In the year before and year since (2010, 2013), the Cardinals are 13-16 and with zero playoff appearances.

    It's like he didn't even exist, to be honest. He made zero mark on that franchise.

    Obviously not a very fair stat, just something I thought was interesting.

  • Ray Horton still hasnt figured out how to put a spy on the half back continuing our fine tradition of getting bamboozled by bubble screens and pitch outs..Im sick of it!

  • Ray Horton still hasnt figured out how to put a spy on the half back continuing our fine tradition of getting bamboozled by bubble screens and pitch outs..Im sick of it!

    @nickers said:

    Ray Horton still hasnt figured out how to put a spy on the half back continuing our fine tradition of getting bamboozled by bubble screens and pitch outs..Im sick of it!

    It's not that he needs a spy as much as we just need a capable ILB. If Horton is going to bring 5-6, that's going to leave an ILB covering the back. Neither Robertson not DQJ have the coverage skills to do that.

    We need a sideline to sideline player, once the edges get sealed (which happens routinely with Mingo in), we don't have a player capable of crossing the field to stop stretch runs, off tackle powers, or pitchouts.

    On one play, I can't remember exactly who it was but one of our CB's got blasted on a block by Jeffery and could not beat the block, which led to a 15+ yard run off tackle.

  • Ray Horton still hasnt figured out how to put a spy on the half back continuing our fine tradition of getting bamboozled by bubble screens and pitch outs..Im sick of it!

    @nickers said:

    Ray Horton still hasnt figured out how to put a spy on the half back continuing our fine tradition of getting bamboozled by bubble screens and pitch outs..Im sick of it!

    We don't have anyone that can do that. All our lb's are slow. They can't cover Te's let alone rb's

  • @nickers said:

    Ray Horton still hasnt figured out how to put a spy on the half back continuing our fine tradition of getting bamboozled by bubble screens and pitch outs..Im sick of it!

    We don't have anyone that can do that. All our lb's are slow. They can't cover Te's let alone rb's

    @browns149 said:

    We don't have anyone that can do that. All our lb's are slow. They can't cover Te's let alone rb's

    Then put ward or someone with speed in on some plays...I realize our LB's are s;low...but you gotta atleast try...Were making it to0 easy...

  • We suck.

    The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.

    Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.

    Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.

    Zombo

  • We suck.

    The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.

    Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.

    Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    We suck.

    The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.

    Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.

    Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.

    Zombo

    Gordon and Cameron are better then good, the other 3 are good, but 5 players do not make a good team

  • Zombo said:

    We suck.

    The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.

    Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.

    Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.

    Zombo

    Gordon and Cameron are better then good, the other 3 are good, but 5 players do not make a good team

    @browns149 said:

    Gordon and Cameron are better then good, the other 3 are good, but 5 players do not make a good team

    Yes, we blow. Thank you Mr. Holmgrem and Mr. Banner.

    Does somebody have a fucking plan? Because having 5 good players and a gay new mascot is not working.

    Zombo

  • @browns149 said:

    Gordon and Cameron are better then good, the other 3 are good, but 5 players do not make a good team

    Yes, we blow. Thank you Mr. Holmgrem and Mr. Banner.

    Does somebody have a fucking plan? Because having 5 good players and a gay new mascot is not working.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Yes, we blow. Thank you Mr. Holmgrem and Mr. Banner.

    Does somebody have a fucking plan? Because having 5 good players and a gay new mascot is not working.

    Zombo

    But the gay new mascot had a t-shirt gun shooting crap into the stands.

    That will keep the fans coming back LMAO

  • To be fair, our D scored 14 points for us today. Final score would have been 38-17 without that. I agree they seem to melt in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but when Haden went out we were toast against the Bears WRs.

  • To be fair, our D scored 14 points for us today. Final score would have been 38-17 without that. I agree they seem to melt in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but when Haden went out we were toast against the Bears WRs.

    @bonedawg said:

    To be fair, our D scored 14 points for us today. Final score would have been 38-17 without that. I agree they seem to melt in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but when Haden went out we were toast against the Bears WRs.

    They were toast with Haden in there too

  • I would rather these guys build their own team for the long haul rather than shoehorn some misfits in just to win a couple extra meaningless games. If the North is even weaker next year than it has been this year, I still don't want to us ass end it into the playoffs just so we can get utterly demolished in the first round. When we make the playoffs, I want us to be legit.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I would rather these guys build their own team for the long haul rather than shoehorn some misfits in just to win a couple extra meaningless games. If the North is even weaker next year than it has been this year, I still don't want to us ass end it into the playoffs just so we can get utterly demolished in the first round. When we make the playoffs, I want us to be legit.

    Yup... no shortcuts...

    @miktoxic said:

    ... 2 things were mentioned in the tavern that probably rang true throughout the game. one was the loose zone coverage that we were playing.

    BUT anyone who disagrees that we should've never gotten krueger and that we don't need a CB (legit, no miss pick) you are fucking insane.

    Well... guess I am officially insane...

    And that "loose zone coverage" being decried in the Tavern was in actuality responsible for two turnovers. It was the way to play a rusty QB on a windy day. It put DBs in position for tipped ball INTs.

    @browns149 said:

    Yeah he looked terrible, but it was really windy down there. Cutler was missing throws too

    Jason seemed to be unengaged again today... just odd... But he does not throw a penetrating ball and was having big issues both into and cross wind.

    Cutler does throw a penetrating ball, but had issues throwing with the wind. Plus we have to remember that one of Jay's TD passes was disguised as a punt.