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  • Where do they have the Quran?

  • Who knows. They could all just be under religion though

  • It was probably the woodpecker on his summer internship.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    It was probably the woodpecker on his summer internship.

    You know you're desperate when you start copying cal's "insults"...

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    It was probably the woodpecker on his summer internship.

    You know you're desperate when you start copying cal's "insults"...

    @koalabazooka said:

    You know you're desperate when you start copying cal's "insults"...

    No no no. It is clever and it really gets me down. I might leave this board now

  • Hardly desperate. I find you two amusing kids. Like to fuck with your infantile minds.

  • Smh, just because we don't agree with you politically doesn't mean we're "infantile". Hurling insults at strangers is infantile, if anything.

  • Truth hurts?

  • Who knows. They could all just be under religion though

    @mld-woody said:

    Who knows. They could all just be under religion though

    That'd be fine with me. To be honest I couldn't care less what "category" Costco, or any merchant places the Bible in. Mine's an app on my phone. πŸ₯·

  • Used to manage bookstores in Columbus...

    We had just rearranged the layout of the store and literally had every book off the shelves moving them around, total overhaul...

    Next day a well-dressed fellow comes up to me dead serious and asks to show me something on the shelves. "Ok, lead on," I say.

    He takes me down an aisle and points to The Diary of Anne Frank. I say, "yes, I'm familiar with it." Then he points to the sign for the section it was in..... "FICTION".

    I chuckle and say "That ain't right, I learned that in 8th grade" and retrieve the book from the shelf and head toward NONFICTION or BIOGRAPHY, when he stops me again and asks me if I am aware that there are people who are trying to discredit The Diary of Anne Frank and say that it is a work of fiction and that the holocaust never happened and demands to know if this is part of that. Again, he is totally serious and a little mad, you can tell.

    I apologized and admitted that we had just rearranged and that it was embarrassing to manage clerks who obviously didn't know the difference. Seriously, if you asked these clerks to box some books for you they would find the hugest box in the store and load it with 250 pounds of books that no one else could even push let alone lift. They just weren't critical or practical thinkers, yet neither were they neo-nazis...just ignorant and a little lazy frankly. The guy was still miffed and unbelieving.

    So, I have first-hand experience of people screwing this type of thing up by accident and others getting mortally offended by it. Yet, as the manager, it was on me to check their work and right any "wrongs". Maybe CostCo would have found the misplaced Bibles eventually, maybe their placement in FICTION was just so idiotic that no one thought to look for them there. In my stores, they could always be found under RELIGION.

    What I doubt is that CostCo was trying to alienate Christians, who are roughly 75% of ANY buying population. It's just bad business IMHO. There are companies that wear their religion on their sleeves..just don't know that CostCo is one of them from my experience.

    Talk about fun with books, I managed stores during the OJ trial and his "I Want to Tell You" book, that book got more people up in arms and angry than this Bible controversy...

    Then there was the time the mob (as in Goodfellas) in Columbus wanted to make me the Porn King of Dublin, Ohio. But that is another story...

  • I doubt Costco did that on purpose. They are running a business and trying to make money. Being a fucking wise guy to a good bit of your consumer base is not the best of business decisions. Probably some employee stocking shelves did it and some butthurt-ready christians wandered past it. Stories of christian persecution (waka! waka!) are everywhere around christmas time.

    An aside, I am an atheist. I don't care which cartoon character is your favorite so long as you don't try to use the scriptures of Mickey Mouse to legislate people of all faiths/no faith.

  • 2 new guys on the same day?

    (I'm hoping it isn't you know who and his cousin)

    Anyway logic, just about every one of our laws is based on someone's morality. Just because you might not like the idea that Christianity might be one of those sets of morality doesn't mean its not widespread. If you're an atheist I assume you are an Obama supporter and he, and his party, has referenced Christianity in terms of our responsibility to tax the rich and give more to what he calls the poor.I'm not opposing the idea of helping the poor, exactly, just pointing out that's a huge part of American society and based upon Christianity. Or the Gospel according to Mickey whichever you prefer.

    WSS

  • 2 new guys on the same day?

    (I'm hoping it isn't you know who and his cousin)

    Anyway logic, just about every one of our laws is based on someone's morality. Just because you might not like the idea that Christianity might be one of those sets of morality doesn't mean its not widespread. If you're an atheist I assume you are an Obama supporter and he, and his party, has referenced Christianity in terms of our responsibility to tax the rich and give more to what he calls the poor.I'm not opposing the idea of helping the poor, exactly, just pointing out that's a huge part of American society and based upon Christianity. Or the Gospel according to Mickey whichever you prefer.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    2 new guys on the same day?

    (I'm hoping it isn't you know who and his cousin)

    Anyway logic, just about every one of our laws is based on someone's morality. Just because you might not like the idea that Christianity might be one of those sets of morality doesn't mean its not widespread. If you're an atheist I assume you are an Obama supporter and he, and his party, has referenced Christianity in terms of our responsibility to tax the rich and give more to what he calls the poor.I'm not opposing the idea of helping the poor, exactly, just pointing out that's a huge part of American society and based upon Christianity. Or the Gospel according to Mickey whichever you prefer.

    WSS

    Most religions have a pretty similar 'core' of morality - no killing, stealing is bad etc. It turns out that most people have those core morals as well. Just because the law coincides with a lot of christian morality doesn't mean it's based on it, in America at least - wasn't one of the founding principals about separation of church and state? That the USA should be a secular country with freedom of religion? If so, basing the laws on the morality of the bible seems a bit hypocritical. That being said, I dare say most lawmakers in America would identify themselves as Christian which will of course influence their morality.

  • actually Chris, no, the so called separation of church and state was not one of our founding principles. Even though I sent a cle believe that our founding principles was that the richest colonists decided King George wouldn't be able to successfully enforce his taxation and that money could be kept for themselves, the separation of church and state didn't show up, I believe, until the 18 hundreds Catholics from Spain and France threatened the power structure of the Protestant majorityty.

    WSS

  • actually Chris, no, the so called separation of church and state was not one of our founding principles. Even though I sent a cle believe that our founding principles was that the richest colonists decided King George wouldn't be able to successfully enforce his taxation and that money could be kept for themselves, the separation of church and state didn't show up, I believe, until the 18 hundreds Catholics from Spain and France threatened the power structure of the Protestant majorityty.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    actually Chris, no, the so called separation of church and state was not one of our founding principles. Even though I sent a cle believe that our founding principles was that the richest colonists decided King George wouldn't be able to successfully enforce his taxation and that money could be kept for themselves, the separation of church and state didn't show up, I believe, until the 18 hundreds Catholics from Spain and France threatened the power structure of the Protestant majorityty.

    WSS

    OK, so it's been a thing for hundreds of years - so presumably any particularly religious rules (such as working on the sabbath etc) should have been removed?

  • Also, 'so called' separation of church and state? I guess you're trying to belittle my point, but really? That's the part you're going to pick on?

  • @westside-steve said:

    actually Chris, no, the so called separation of church and state was not one of our founding principles. Even though I sent a cle believe that our founding principles was that the richest colonists decided King George wouldn't be able to successfully enforce his taxation and that money could be kept for themselves, the separation of church and state didn't show up, I believe, until the 18 hundreds Catholics from Spain and France threatened the power structure of the Protestant majorityty.

    WSS

    OK, so it's been a thing for hundreds of years - so presumably any particularly religious rules (such as working on the sabbath etc) should have been removed?

    @gftchris said:

    OK, so it's been a thing for hundreds of years - so presumably any particularly religious rules (such as working on the sabbath etc) should have been removed?

    No idea.

    I suppose you could make me a list that would bother you. it seems to me that just recently many of the people who would probably be grumbling about working on the Sabbath being put into law were the same ones bitching that Wal Mart dared make them work on Thanksgiving Day.

    I'm not even a Christian, as you may have gathered, but I think the separation of church and state has gotten out of hand. I think as a nation we often over react to the complaints of unpleasant minorities such as the atheists who seem to enjoy nothing more than being a thorn in someone else's side.

    WSS

  • 2 new guys on the same day?

    (I'm hoping it isn't you know who and his cousin)

    Anyway logic, just about every one of our laws is based on someone's morality. Just because you might not like the idea that Christianity might be one of those sets of morality doesn't mean its not widespread. If you're an atheist I assume you are an Obama supporter and he, and his party, has referenced Christianity in terms of our responsibility to tax the rich and give more to what he calls the poor.I'm not opposing the idea of helping the poor, exactly, just pointing out that's a huge part of American society and based upon Christianity. Or the Gospel according to Mickey whichever you prefer.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    2 new guys on the same day?

    (I'm hoping it isn't you know who and his cousin)

    Anyway logic, just about every one of our laws is based on someone's morality. Just because you might not like the idea that Christianity might be one of those sets of morality doesn't mean its not widespread. If you're an atheist I assume you are an Obama supporter and he, and his party, has referenced Christianity in terms of our responsibility to tax the rich and give more to what he calls the poor.I'm not opposing the idea of helping the poor, exactly, just pointing out that's a huge part of American society and based upon Christianity. Or the Gospel according to Mickey whichever you prefer.

    WSS

    I don't think anyone said the don't like Christianity might be a set of morality our laws are based on.

    Even though most religions are very similar. If anything, a lot of that just boils down to our instincts. I mean, we know killing another human is bad. It is bad to thin our numbers.

    Do atheists have to be Obama supporters? Why?

    All politicians will reference Christianity to some degree. Whether or not they actually care about Christianity, they will say they do as to not isolate all of the very religious people that this country has too much of.

    Also, through the limited number of posts that I have seen, I like the new guys.

  • Used to manage bookstores in Columbus...

    We had just rearranged the layout of the store and literally had every book off the shelves moving them around, total overhaul...

    Next day a well-dressed fellow comes up to me dead serious and asks to show me something on the shelves. "Ok, lead on," I say.

    He takes me down an aisle and points to The Diary of Anne Frank. I say, "yes, I'm familiar with it." Then he points to the sign for the section it was in..... "FICTION".

    I chuckle and say "That ain't right, I learned that in 8th grade" and retrieve the book from the shelf and head toward NONFICTION or BIOGRAPHY, when he stops me again and asks me if I am aware that there are people who are trying to discredit The Diary of Anne Frank and say that it is a work of fiction and that the holocaust never happened and demands to know if this is part of that. Again, he is totally serious and a little mad, you can tell.

    I apologized and admitted that we had just rearranged and that it was embarrassing to manage clerks who obviously didn't know the difference. Seriously, if you asked these clerks to box some books for you they would find the hugest box in the store and load it with 250 pounds of books that no one else could even push let alone lift. They just weren't critical or practical thinkers, yet neither were they neo-nazis...just ignorant and a little lazy frankly. The guy was still miffed and unbelieving.

    So, I have first-hand experience of people screwing this type of thing up by accident and others getting mortally offended by it. Yet, as the manager, it was on me to check their work and right any "wrongs". Maybe CostCo would have found the misplaced Bibles eventually, maybe their placement in FICTION was just so idiotic that no one thought to look for them there. In my stores, they could always be found under RELIGION.

    What I doubt is that CostCo was trying to alienate Christians, who are roughly 75% of ANY buying population. It's just bad business IMHO. There are companies that wear their religion on their sleeves..just don't know that CostCo is one of them from my experience.

    Talk about fun with books, I managed stores during the OJ trial and his "I Want to Tell You" book, that book got more people up in arms and angry than this Bible controversy...

    Then there was the time the mob (as in Goodfellas) in Columbus wanted to make me the Porn King of Dublin, Ohio. But that is another story...

    @schopenhauer said:

    Then there was the time the mob (as in Goodfellas) in Columbus wanted to make me the Porn King of Dublin, Ohio. But that is another story...

    Do share!

  • @westside-steve said:

    2 new guys on the same day?

    (I'm hoping it isn't you know who and his cousin)

    Anyway logic, just about every one of our laws is based on someone's morality. Just because you might not like the idea that Christianity might be one of those sets of morality doesn't mean its not widespread. If you're an atheist I assume you are an Obama supporter and he, and his party, has referenced Christianity in terms of our responsibility to tax the rich and give more to what he calls the poor.I'm not opposing the idea of helping the poor, exactly, just pointing out that's a huge part of American society and based upon Christianity. Or the Gospel according to Mickey whichever you prefer.

    WSS

    Most religions have a pretty similar 'core' of morality - no killing, stealing is bad etc. It turns out that most people have those core morals as well. Just because the law coincides with a lot of christian morality doesn't mean it's based on it, in America at least - wasn't one of the founding principals about separation of church and state? That the USA should be a secular country with freedom of religion? If so, basing the laws on the morality of the bible seems a bit hypocritical. That being said, I dare say most lawmakers in America would identify themselves as Christian which will of course influence their morality.

    @gftchris said:

    Most religions have a pretty similar 'core' of morality - no killing, stealing is bad etc. It turns out that most people have those core morals as well. Just because the law coincides with a lot of christian morality doesn't mean it's based on it, in America at least - wasn't one of the founding principals about separation of church and state? That the USA should be a secular country with freedom of religion? If so, basing the laws on the morality of the bible seems a bit hypocritical. That being said, I dare say most lawmakers in America would identify themselves as Christian which will of course influence their morality.

    Yeah, almost all of the Enlightenment-influenced Founding Fathers were either deist or atheist.

    "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."

    -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

    β€œThis would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.”

    - John Adams

    Being no bigot myself, I am disposed to indulge the professors of Christianity in the church that road to heaven which to them shall seem the most direct, plainest, easiest and least liable to exception.

    - George Washington

    The Puritans who founded America left Britain to escape religious persecution from the Church of England.

  • Not quite sure why being an atheist would make me an Obama supporter. I am a libertarian so I don't fall on to either team. I think they are both full of shit.